I find it hard to understand that the terrible war that Tsahal has to fight after october 7 does not seem to be perceived as the tip of the iceberg of a much larger ongoing war between the Western democracies and the Islamist worldwide movement
I heard Fetterman being interviewed about this on the radio. He's sincere and straightforward. A Democrat that leans toward the center on matters of import, which everybody on both sides should do. There was a time in this country where we vehemently disagreed on fringe issues but concentrated legislation on the things we did agree on. We don't get that movement on things we all agree on anymore because they're too busy screaming at each other about the fringe issues.
I agree, and I applaud the senator. However, his defense of Biden is simply pure politics in its defense of the indefensible, case in point being Biden's clumsy attempts to "handle" Hamas's war in Gaza with one eye firmly on the upcoming election. The senator is in the right, but please, let's encourage Biden to let the Israelis fight their war their way.
I hated the thought of John Fetterman becoming a US Senator, I was completely partisan in reaching that decision during that vote, only to learn that he actually thinks more like me than I gave him credit for. I never dressed in Carhart clothes before, but I am willing to give it a try...this could be the start of a new America!!
The same ones who hate Israel also hate America. They not only admit it, they shriek it. They’re traitors, and should be dealt with summarily and accordingly.
I've given this a think. I don't believe Fetterman will. That would be going against his grain. He's a dyed in the wool leftist. I don't agree with with Fetterman on most issues but I do respect a principled individual. Fetterman may be incorrect from my way of thinking but I can respect him. That typed there isn't much difference between the two sides of the uniparty coin.
I was truly fearful that some group however small of "progressive" Jews would try to disrupt even at Yeshiva U. What university besides Yeshiva will invite Fetterman? He may not see it as courageous but in these times with the hamas supporting Jew haters who openly call for eradicating Israel and its Jewish citizens....yes he is courageous.
Impressive, bold, and innovative that the administration of Yeshiva recruited Fetterman to be a speaker. The administration's ability to stand by their core values is truly admirable compared to the waffling and whimpering of many other school's administration.
People keep saying things like "Free Palestine" and 'from the river to the sea" and holding up banners that show Palestine in all of Israel. These aren't calls for peace.
There is nothing remotely old-school liberal about Palestinian society. Thy have made their own free choices for years and here's what they've come up with:
rule of law? No
free speech? No
freedom of the press? No
abortion rights? No
freedom of religion? No
freedom to protest? No
voting rights? No
LGBT rights? No
women’s rights? No
due process rights? No
And based on the high approval in Palestinian polls related to the Oct.7 attacks, they are:
pro terrorism? Yes
pro rape? Yes
pro kidnapping? Yes
pro murder? Yes
Why would any Democrat be OK with Palestinian society? They've made themselves into victims and they play that card exceptionally well, even as much of their history is built on lies and bigotry.
Playing the victim and lose-lose destruction are their lone proven skills. Israel, unfortunately, is stuck dealing with this lost society.
You are 100% correct as far as you go. But Hamas is not just a run of the mill bunch of gangsters. They are, like Hezbollah, an army of God, in their own eyes. They are religious fanatics like the Taliban or worse. Since Muslim society does not tolerate dissent from Muslim orthodoxy, the average Palestinian has no choice but to wholeheartedly support Hamas. Can Hamas be destroyed without destroying Palestinian society? That's the question.
Excellent question. I believe the answer is no. IT might well be necessary to destroy the great mass of Palestinian society in order to defeat Hamas, and Hezbollah. I pray I am wrong, but I fear I am right.
This was about all of Palestinian society. Not just hamas.
The issues I raised come from over 50 years of choices made by the society as a whole. If the only problem was hamas, that'd be more fixable. But the polls show the issues are deeply entrenched. Over 70% of Palestinians think 10/7 was a good idea, and that figure is identical in the West Bank and Gaza.
Fetterman is the face of the new Democratic party. I knew it when I supported his campaign to begin with. The "squad" are the past, good riddance. John your sign is still up in my yard, and it will stay there. Now see what you can do to encourage our senior senator to back away from the hateful antisemitic squad like Summer Lee!
I appreciate your optimism. It would be great if you are right. I think you are naïve. I do not write this as an insult. Fetterman COULD be the face of a "new Democratic party," but I think this is wishful thinking. I see no evidence to suggest The Squad is the past. They seem to me to be very much the present and foreseeable future.
The Squad is falling fast. Bowman and Bush are already set to fall. The rest will follow once the fallout of this November becomes clear. Look at how much money the anti-progressives are raising. There is no bigger money maker for Republicans than bashing progressives. How did Stefanik get so much traction? Bashing Harvard elites just like my boy Fetterman did. In the end real morals matter most of all.
Perhaps, but this is still to be seen. Bowen is running against a very accomplished primary opponent. This might be more a reflection of the opponent than Bowen. Bush is a clown. When Tlaib, Occasional Cortex, and Ohmar go down I'll believe you. Until then, the Dems are the party of a radical Jew-hating and America-hating Marxist cabal. Let's not forget the House minority leader is the nephew of Leonard Jeffries, the anti-Jew and anti-American professor from who the younger Jeffries has NEVER tried to distance himself. Of course, I would prefer I am wrong and you are right, but right now it's a wait and see.
Hope springs eternal, but it's not going to happen. More than half of the Democrats in the House and Senate belong to the Democratic Socialists of America, a leftist umbrella group.
Fetterman is simply a straight shooter with moral clarity and a backbone. These characteristics are rarified in politics and desperately craved today.
Trump knew the value of holding these attributes and managed to construct a hall of mirrors that created an illusion of authenticity. His canny enough representation of these characteristics convinced some appreciable fraction of the populous sufficient to tip the scales in his favor in 2016.
But it was always an enigmatic alchemic recipe that many politicians have tried but only Trump could make work well enough.
Fetterman insofar as I can tell, is the real deal. I and I think many others would happily concede various policy positions for a candidate of character, moral clarity, and forthrightness. Biden has these in greater measure than Trump however we still see lapses in all three. And despite the paucity of these characteristics in Trump, on some important matters he somehow lands on the more moral side, seemingly by accident.
Alas we are left with these ultimately abjectly deficient candidates while the country needs and mostly wants a leader like Fetterman.
Makes you long for the times when a solid center existed in American politics--and politicians could tell the difference between terrorists and their victims.
I'm slack-jawed in amazement. I remember when all of the leftist press was the wind at his back during his run for the Senate. They must be consumed with agita after his turnaround.
While I appreciate Fetterman’s stance, where are the articles praising the Republican members of Congress who have never wavered in their support for Israel.
Let the Democratic Party Rehabilitation Project begin!
Bari Weiss will use Fetterman to assuage herself that the Dems are still the party of the "good people"... and the Free Press will give press to anyone who can love Israel, abortion and "government programs" in the same breath.... Because that's what the "good" Democrats do. The other Democrats are the "bad" Democrats...
Delenda est, indeed, lol! I think we need two good major parties. When the Dems were a liberal party comprised of pro-lifers, fiscal conservatives, the Scoop Jackson Democrats or Pat Moynihan types we were a much better country. Delenda est only if they won't reform the party.
He was my senator and I thought he was an embodiment of prudence and statesmanship. I didn't always agree with him, of course, but he truly represented New York.
I find it hard to understand that the terrible war that Tsahal has to fight after october 7 does not seem to be perceived as the tip of the iceberg of a much larger ongoing war between the Western democracies and the Islamist worldwide movement
I heard Fetterman being interviewed about this on the radio. He's sincere and straightforward. A Democrat that leans toward the center on matters of import, which everybody on both sides should do. There was a time in this country where we vehemently disagreed on fringe issues but concentrated legislation on the things we did agree on. We don't get that movement on things we all agree on anymore because they're too busy screaming at each other about the fringe issues.
A no-BS approach. My respect for this Senator has grown thru this.
I agree, and I applaud the senator. However, his defense of Biden is simply pure politics in its defense of the indefensible, case in point being Biden's clumsy attempts to "handle" Hamas's war in Gaza with one eye firmly on the upcoming election. The senator is in the right, but please, let's encourage Biden to let the Israelis fight their war their way.
I hated the thought of John Fetterman becoming a US Senator, I was completely partisan in reaching that decision during that vote, only to learn that he actually thinks more like me than I gave him credit for. I never dressed in Carhart clothes before, but I am willing to give it a try...this could be the start of a new America!!
The same ones who hate Israel also hate America. They not only admit it, they shriek it. They’re traitors, and should be dealt with summarily and accordingly.
I wonder how long it will be before Fetterman switches parties.
I've given this a think. I don't believe Fetterman will. That would be going against his grain. He's a dyed in the wool leftist. I don't agree with with Fetterman on most issues but I do respect a principled individual. Fetterman may be incorrect from my way of thinking but I can respect him. That typed there isn't much difference between the two sides of the uniparty coin.
I was truly fearful that some group however small of "progressive" Jews would try to disrupt even at Yeshiva U. What university besides Yeshiva will invite Fetterman? He may not see it as courageous but in these times with the hamas supporting Jew haters who openly call for eradicating Israel and its Jewish citizens....yes he is courageous.
Impressive, bold, and innovative that the administration of Yeshiva recruited Fetterman to be a speaker. The administration's ability to stand by their core values is truly admirable compared to the waffling and whimpering of many other school's administration.
Fetterman is right in his position.
People keep saying things like "Free Palestine" and 'from the river to the sea" and holding up banners that show Palestine in all of Israel. These aren't calls for peace.
There is nothing remotely old-school liberal about Palestinian society. Thy have made their own free choices for years and here's what they've come up with:
rule of law? No
free speech? No
freedom of the press? No
abortion rights? No
freedom of religion? No
freedom to protest? No
voting rights? No
LGBT rights? No
women’s rights? No
due process rights? No
And based on the high approval in Palestinian polls related to the Oct.7 attacks, they are:
pro terrorism? Yes
pro rape? Yes
pro kidnapping? Yes
pro murder? Yes
Why would any Democrat be OK with Palestinian society? They've made themselves into victims and they play that card exceptionally well, even as much of their history is built on lies and bigotry.
Playing the victim and lose-lose destruction are their lone proven skills. Israel, unfortunately, is stuck dealing with this lost society.
You are 100% correct as far as you go. But Hamas is not just a run of the mill bunch of gangsters. They are, like Hezbollah, an army of God, in their own eyes. They are religious fanatics like the Taliban or worse. Since Muslim society does not tolerate dissent from Muslim orthodoxy, the average Palestinian has no choice but to wholeheartedly support Hamas. Can Hamas be destroyed without destroying Palestinian society? That's the question.
Excellent question. I believe the answer is no. IT might well be necessary to destroy the great mass of Palestinian society in order to defeat Hamas, and Hezbollah. I pray I am wrong, but I fear I am right.
This was about all of Palestinian society. Not just hamas.
The issues I raised come from over 50 years of choices made by the society as a whole. If the only problem was hamas, that'd be more fixable. But the polls show the issues are deeply entrenched. Over 70% of Palestinians think 10/7 was a good idea, and that figure is identical in the West Bank and Gaza.
https://pcpsr.org/en/node/973 its the first question
Fetterman is the face of the new Democratic party. I knew it when I supported his campaign to begin with. The "squad" are the past, good riddance. John your sign is still up in my yard, and it will stay there. Now see what you can do to encourage our senior senator to back away from the hateful antisemitic squad like Summer Lee!
I appreciate your optimism. It would be great if you are right. I think you are naïve. I do not write this as an insult. Fetterman COULD be the face of a "new Democratic party," but I think this is wishful thinking. I see no evidence to suggest The Squad is the past. They seem to me to be very much the present and foreseeable future.
The Squad is falling fast. Bowman and Bush are already set to fall. The rest will follow once the fallout of this November becomes clear. Look at how much money the anti-progressives are raising. There is no bigger money maker for Republicans than bashing progressives. How did Stefanik get so much traction? Bashing Harvard elites just like my boy Fetterman did. In the end real morals matter most of all.
Perhaps, but this is still to be seen. Bowen is running against a very accomplished primary opponent. This might be more a reflection of the opponent than Bowen. Bush is a clown. When Tlaib, Occasional Cortex, and Ohmar go down I'll believe you. Until then, the Dems are the party of a radical Jew-hating and America-hating Marxist cabal. Let's not forget the House minority leader is the nephew of Leonard Jeffries, the anti-Jew and anti-American professor from who the younger Jeffries has NEVER tried to distance himself. Of course, I would prefer I am wrong and you are right, but right now it's a wait and see.
Whom, not who - I don't want the grammar police after me.
Hope springs eternal, but it's not going to happen. More than half of the Democrats in the House and Senate belong to the Democratic Socialists of America, a leftist umbrella group.
He is very much not the face of the Democrats; he will almost certainly not be allowed to run for reelection as one.
I agree. He'll be pilloried for his half step out of lock step.
The illegitimates are hive creatures.
On the issue of the Arab attrocities of October 7th 2023. Beyond that he's a leftist. However for his stance on Israel he gets a pass.
Fetterman is simply a straight shooter with moral clarity and a backbone. These characteristics are rarified in politics and desperately craved today.
Trump knew the value of holding these attributes and managed to construct a hall of mirrors that created an illusion of authenticity. His canny enough representation of these characteristics convinced some appreciable fraction of the populous sufficient to tip the scales in his favor in 2016.
But it was always an enigmatic alchemic recipe that many politicians have tried but only Trump could make work well enough.
Fetterman insofar as I can tell, is the real deal. I and I think many others would happily concede various policy positions for a candidate of character, moral clarity, and forthrightness. Biden has these in greater measure than Trump however we still see lapses in all three. And despite the paucity of these characteristics in Trump, on some important matters he somehow lands on the more moral side, seemingly by accident.
Alas we are left with these ultimately abjectly deficient candidates while the country needs and mostly wants a leader like Fetterman.
Makes you long for the times when a solid center existed in American politics--and politicians could tell the difference between terrorists and their victims.
I've become team Fetterman. I'm a complete fanboi.
I'm slack-jawed in amazement. I remember when all of the leftist press was the wind at his back during his run for the Senate. They must be consumed with agita after his turnaround.
I was there! It was a very powerful moment.
While I appreciate Fetterman’s stance, where are the articles praising the Republican members of Congress who have never wavered in their support for Israel.
None because, well, they are Republicans.
Let the Democratic Party Rehabilitation Project begin!
Bari Weiss will use Fetterman to assuage herself that the Dems are still the party of the "good people"... and the Free Press will give press to anyone who can love Israel, abortion and "government programs" in the same breath.... Because that's what the "good" Democrats do. The other Democrats are the "bad" Democrats...
They're still just Democrats....
The Democratic Party of America, DELENDA EST!
Actually Delenda est the uniparty.
No. Democrats are much, much worse.
Your CPID implies that obama is no longer foolish. Is this the message you're conveying?
No. I just liked the sound. And when I tried, Obamaisafilthyrottenpileofshitscumbagfuckwhoshoulddieathousanddeaths it just got too long
The conniving kenyan? Say it ain’t so.
Very funny comment and what is more... Carthago delenda est!
Delenda est, indeed, lol! I think we need two good major parties. When the Dems were a liberal party comprised of pro-lifers, fiscal conservatives, the Scoop Jackson Democrats or Pat Moynihan types we were a much better country. Delenda est only if they won't reform the party.
Moynihan was a courageous guy
He was my senator and I thought he was an embodiment of prudence and statesmanship. I didn't always agree with him, of course, but he truly represented New York.