This is a thoughtful conversation that illuminates a path forward through moral courage. Ms. Weiss - I have written to you via email in the hope that you could come to speak at Arizona State University in the Spring 2022 on this very subject.
Brilliant musician but a complete shmuck! So let me get this straight. A millionaire bajo player reads a book, likes it, says so publicly, then someone or something has convinced him that he just may have committed a crime against humanity and that his fellow millionaire band members lives have been irreversibly damaged, and then goes on a self-flagellating apologize tour along side all the other self-flagellating elites like Lin-Manuel Miranda who is thanking the Afro-Latino community for showing him how evil he must be. When does the groveling stop? What a snoozer interview Bari. I still love your work!
Applause 👏🏼 👏🏼👏🏼 As another celeb of character/common sense speaks out. These are the folks that will help the pendulum swing back to fact instead of fiction. Another great read/listen from Bari. This is the stuff I’m happy to pay for. Quality journalism. Keep it up! 👍
It has come to Canada. Cloaked in Indigenous clothing - tearing down statues - of the queen while law enforcement stands by, claiming that holding up the law will encite further violence...as if allowing violence, under the cause du-jour (trans, BLM) to run rampant isn't how violence mestataciźes. Trudeau - oh most virtuous, did this when he allowed a group of the right kind of protesters blockade Canada's national rail for wèeks on end, while tweeting support. He is likely the first PM for whom i have felt contempt... as i watch him destroy Canada.
Talk about bravery. Bari’s interview captured the dilemma facing Winston and his ultimate decision to leave his beloved band in order to reclaim his integrity. Winston, by going through his process so thoughtfully, literately and publicly should inspire all of us to be brave.
I don't know that Winston is reading any of this but if he is not might you tell him for me Bari? My 17 year old, singer, musician, planning to go into musical theater son had not heard of Munford and Sons before now. He has, due to this injustice and ill treatment of Winston. He now has all their albums and is listening to Winston and his friends non stop. It's just a little thing, but.. I thought he might think of it as something good that happened after the bad.
Bari asked if there may be some connection between being religious and being able to stand up to the mob. I stumbled on this quote from Rabbi Lod Jonathan Sacks in his book The Great Partnership. He is discussing what a society loses when it gives up religion:
"First there is a loss of belief in human dignity...people discover that in the new social order they are more vulnerable and alone. Marriages break up. Communities grow old and weak. People lack deep, stable structures of support. They become members of a lonely crowd or electronic herd. They float on a tide of fashion. They dress in strangely uniform ways. They think in strangely uniform ways. It takes far more courage to defy the consensus than it used to when conscience was given dignity by faith."
Great interview. Kudos on pointing out many brave people are religious. My parents, the Jesuits, Holy Cross Fathers, and Sisters of St. Joseph taught courage on fundamental truths. I have abandoned organized religion, but not my faith. I believe it grows w/ age.
Retired now, I would have found my life unbearable had I not traveled extensively, worked in several countries and met so many people with different views, cultures, national backgrounds, "identities" and experiences that I was able to debate with. Several of my better friends are the ones with whom I had some pretty long and loud "debates" where we ended up agreeing to disagree on the topic ... while discovering that all people really want the same fundamental things out of life BUT disagree on "how to get there". Those raucous exchanges allowed me to grow, evolve and mature = to think.
It is devastation to see that intolerance, dogmatism and tribalism are so common these days. I'm sure Winston will have a better life thanks to the courage he had to break with the Orwellian "thought police".
How boring it must be for anyone who can only bear to interact with people like themselves!
This is a lesson in what not to do and how to recover. This madness will only end well if wealthy individuals who support free expression begin to produce records, publish novels, and steadfastly back their creators. We need to recognize that we are being governed by cynical philistines who will exploit every hateful avenue for financial gain and have no interest in a bountiful and challenging culture. The alternatives to the kind of heroic capitalism we need right now involves a total breakdown in civil society. And how close are we already? Bring back the fearless patron! Peter Thiel is a good example of what I mean, but he only invests in companies and candidates, not culture.
I'll check it out, although I would feel guilty signing up just to receive money. What I really wish is for the wealthy and sane individualists to set up new publishing houses and production companies. I would rather have an avenue to a fair shot, but I appreciate your advice.
Bari, great interview. I read Andy Ngo's book. He deserves as much attention as Winston Marshall. Can you write an article about him? I think what he wrote is true, but there seems to be a lack of coverage.
This is a thoughtful conversation that illuminates a path forward through moral courage. Ms. Weiss - I have written to you via email in the hope that you could come to speak at Arizona State University in the Spring 2022 on this very subject.
Brilliant musician but a complete shmuck! So let me get this straight. A millionaire bajo player reads a book, likes it, says so publicly, then someone or something has convinced him that he just may have committed a crime against humanity and that his fellow millionaire band members lives have been irreversibly damaged, and then goes on a self-flagellating apologize tour along side all the other self-flagellating elites like Lin-Manuel Miranda who is thanking the Afro-Latino community for showing him how evil he must be. When does the groveling stop? What a snoozer interview Bari. I still love your work!
great respect for Mr. Marshall. - sincerely a fan forever
Great interview - good questions, honest answers, nice people. Gives me hope.
Applause 👏🏼 👏🏼👏🏼 As another celeb of character/common sense speaks out. These are the folks that will help the pendulum swing back to fact instead of fiction. Another great read/listen from Bari. This is the stuff I’m happy to pay for. Quality journalism. Keep it up! 👍
Word.
It has come to Canada. Cloaked in Indigenous clothing - tearing down statues - of the queen while law enforcement stands by, claiming that holding up the law will encite further violence...as if allowing violence, under the cause du-jour (trans, BLM) to run rampant isn't how violence mestataciźes. Trudeau - oh most virtuous, did this when he allowed a group of the right kind of protesters blockade Canada's national rail for wèeks on end, while tweeting support. He is likely the first PM for whom i have felt contempt... as i watch him destroy Canada.
Talk about bravery. Bari’s interview captured the dilemma facing Winston and his ultimate decision to leave his beloved band in order to reclaim his integrity. Winston, by going through his process so thoughtfully, literately and publicly should inspire all of us to be brave.
I don't know that Winston is reading any of this but if he is not might you tell him for me Bari? My 17 year old, singer, musician, planning to go into musical theater son had not heard of Munford and Sons before now. He has, due to this injustice and ill treatment of Winston. He now has all their albums and is listening to Winston and his friends non stop. It's just a little thing, but.. I thought he might think of it as something good that happened after the bad.
"If only Stalin knew!!!"
Bari asked if there may be some connection between being religious and being able to stand up to the mob. I stumbled on this quote from Rabbi Lod Jonathan Sacks in his book The Great Partnership. He is discussing what a society loses when it gives up religion:
"First there is a loss of belief in human dignity...people discover that in the new social order they are more vulnerable and alone. Marriages break up. Communities grow old and weak. People lack deep, stable structures of support. They become members of a lonely crowd or electronic herd. They float on a tide of fashion. They dress in strangely uniform ways. They think in strangely uniform ways. It takes far more courage to defy the consensus than it used to when conscience was given dignity by faith."
Great interview. Kudos on pointing out many brave people are religious. My parents, the Jesuits, Holy Cross Fathers, and Sisters of St. Joseph taught courage on fundamental truths. I have abandoned organized religion, but not my faith. I believe it grows w/ age.
Retired now, I would have found my life unbearable had I not traveled extensively, worked in several countries and met so many people with different views, cultures, national backgrounds, "identities" and experiences that I was able to debate with. Several of my better friends are the ones with whom I had some pretty long and loud "debates" where we ended up agreeing to disagree on the topic ... while discovering that all people really want the same fundamental things out of life BUT disagree on "how to get there". Those raucous exchanges allowed me to grow, evolve and mature = to think.
It is devastation to see that intolerance, dogmatism and tribalism are so common these days. I'm sure Winston will have a better life thanks to the courage he had to break with the Orwellian "thought police".
How boring it must be for anyone who can only bear to interact with people like themselves!
This is a lesson in what not to do and how to recover. This madness will only end well if wealthy individuals who support free expression begin to produce records, publish novels, and steadfastly back their creators. We need to recognize that we are being governed by cynical philistines who will exploit every hateful avenue for financial gain and have no interest in a bountiful and challenging culture. The alternatives to the kind of heroic capitalism we need right now involves a total breakdown in civil society. And how close are we already? Bring back the fearless patron! Peter Thiel is a good example of what I mean, but he only invests in companies and candidates, not culture.
There is a way for those of us who love artists and culture to help artists. Take a look at Patreon. I, along with many others, support artists there.
I'll check it out, although I would feel guilty signing up just to receive money. What I really wish is for the wealthy and sane individualists to set up new publishing houses and production companies. I would rather have an avenue to a fair shot, but I appreciate your advice.
NEVER APOLOGIZE! EVER!
Bari, great interview. I read Andy Ngo's book. He deserves as much attention as Winston Marshall. Can you write an article about him? I think what he wrote is true, but there seems to be a lack of coverage.
I read the book too. It was excellent.