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Also, I see in the comments that there is much discussion about who is more or less pro-Israel. Bush and Trump clearly were more Pro-Israel than the Ds. There is really no debate about that no matter how many jewish friends that hate Trump exist. Jews are not a monolith so there is diversity of opinion including Jews that fully support the Iran deal and dove-like attitudes toward Hamas. My point is a bit different, the Rs support Israel because the Evangelicals on the right (R supporters) blindly believe in the Jewish right to the Holy Land Premise as well as Rs recognizing correctly that it is the only western-style and Pro-US democracy in the area. The Ds meanwhile are so obsessed with Muslim pandering (civil rights!) mostly in response to Trump derangement syndrome along with inherent - (I think possibly genuine) - sympathy to the plight of: a) real life David vs Goliath or b) Hamas designed/choreographed victims of their own people to create world sympathy.

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Bari - thank you and Arnold Roth for this moving, touching, and painful article. It speaks to the hopelessness of the situation in the Middle East. There is no doubt that Israel has suffered under the terrorist-aligned (at least) palestinian leadership. The disproportionate exchange of prisoners is telling. But I have a question/proposal for you. I do understand you manning the bulwarks against the leftist belief that Israel is to blame and that the PA are the victims - when it appears to be muslim based and anti-Israel. But in truth the people on both sides are victims. I understand the thinking that it seems more wrong on the palestinian side. But innocent children should not die - yes Hamas uses their own for that and Israel does not stoop to that. The original "sin" or "mistake" of the creation of the Israeli state in 1948, no matter how well-intentioned, was created by the western powers pushed along by zionist terrorist attacks against colonial rule and rightful holocaust sympathy. It annexed unofficial Arab land - even with a growing population of Jews since before 1900 due to Zionism. Zionists had design on the Holy Land for at least a half century before Israel creation - their motivation was understandable - except for the annexing. The allies response should have been handled better than it was. But this is all history and semi-irrelevant now. Israel's manner of creation cannot be undone. I have long believed that there is only one long-term solution to this mess and that is that Israel make significant concessions to create a palestinian state. That is a bitter pill, yes. But is it better for Israel to cling to more land, etc.- no matter how right it may feel or be - or continue this mess with no end in sight endlessly into the future? The annexing of palestinian settlements is wrong and should be stopped - it is making matters worse. Stop the Netanyahu expansionism. Israel should be seeking to give over land and rights - yes it will make it geo. smaller. But maybe as much as Israel claims that it should be recognized (and not be subjected to annihilation threats) palestinians /Arab majority states given the same recognition may create a lasting peace. It's worth a try - if it does not yield fruit return to the stalemate. To be clear, this is not John Kerry pie in the sky philosophy talking. The Iran deal was a disaster/embarrassment/risk increase and Israel (and the US) should continue to make use of unilateral bombing of nuclear/other facilities. I believe this should be done with North Korea also. Common sense says don't wait until the nuclear weapons are in existence - send bombers in asap. Is it an act of war - yes. Is it a long-term act of peace for humanity? Also, yes.

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If this family cannot get justice, then the hunter-killers of Massad should be let off the leash. Remove this mass murderer from the face of the Earth.

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Mossad.

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I write this from a position of internal moral conflict. An expert on diplomacy and international relations- I am not. From an anti-terrorism perspective, I lament the loss of Malki Roth’s life and support extradition and prosecution of terrorist Tamimi. How such terrorists achieve public support and not scorn is astonishing. On the other hand, for the USA to prosecute a terrorist that Israel set free, suggests (even if evidence is lacking), a good cop-bad cop dynamic between the USA and Israel that could hypothetically undermine future Israeli foreign policy. This is something I want to not occur. Moving forward, I propose a policy of not negotiating with terrorists.

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I never thought I'd be standing up for the Biden administration, but here goes. I think we are losing the ability in America to see anything except through partisan lenses, and I don't think that is a good thing. As such, I have been disturbed by some of the comments on this piece. I voted for President Trump twice and was appalled at the horrendous and prejudiced reaction he received and continues to receive from the press and from Democrats (and from anti-Trumpers), including outright lies about his activities. I also love Israel and have children living there. The pain of parents like the Roths and so many others as terrorists are lauded and encouraged, and lately as American elected officials join in that adulation, is real and shared by all good people.

Having said that, the Israeli government makes its own decisions and among them are not giving terrorists like Tamimi the death sentence, knowing that there is a credible chance of them being released. The Israeli nation chose to do a hostage exchange and let her go free. Gilad Shalit was in my daily prayers for years. I would not have wanted to be responsible for choosing whether to save him or not at the expense of releasing terrorists to kill again- it was an excruciating choice.

All leaders, including Joe Biden (or those making decisions for him), have to calculate national interest vs. emotional tugs. America is a poorer country because so many of our legislators have voted and promote voting on emotions alone. The U.S. has a relationship with Jordan in a volatile region of the world. There is true hatred of Israel and of Jews in the Democrat Party as well as anti-Americanism. Nonetheless, as pained as I may be at the Sbarro bombing and as upset as I am at the lies told about Israel by her enemies, in this case I do not see non-action on the part of the Biden administration, should that be so, as proof of anything nefarious, just a sad acknowledgment of the limits of a presidency in a real world.

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This is a very objective and reasonable comment. It’s not bogged down with partisan rhetoric. It also contains no silver lining. I agree that sadly, there is little to no chance that Biden will touch this issue.

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Thank you for sharing this important piece. May Malki’s memory be a blessing, may her loved ones be comforted, and may the U.S. and Jordan do the right thing so that Tamimi will be brought to justice in the U.S.

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If there was a historic breakthrough, why does Biden have to be appealed to now? Why didn't Trump finish the job?

#MAGA!

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Stop lying, anti-Semitic scum. There’s no evidence Trump knew anything about this. Trump was the most pro-Jewish and pro-Israel president in history.

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Because Jordan is a sovereign nation and can do what it wants

At least Trump made effort

Biden —zero

Sorry article was full of lies and you believed it

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No. He won’t. Just like Trump would not have. Just like Obama would not have. Just like Bush would not have.

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You mean like Trump "did not", because he was in office in March 2017 when Jordan declared the treaty invalid, and then did nothing over the next 3 years and 10 months.

So we don't need to ask what Trump might or might not have done. We know exactly what he did about this case, which is absolutely nothing.

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No one knows what Trump would have done if this had been brought to his attention. From day one Trump was dealing with an insurrection started by Obama and Biden in a meeting on January 5, 2017 when they unleashed James Comey to bring down the Trump administration starting with Gen. Flynn.

In spite of that Trump moved the US Embassy to Jerusalem snd marginalized the UN, Iran and the Palestinian terrorists.

The demented madman Biden unleashed Hamas by resuming their subsidy and emboldening Iran by putting them back on a pedestal. This directly led to the recent rocket attack that killed several innocent Jewish civilians.

But Trump-haters like Mark don’t care.

Trump was the most pro-Jewish and pro-Israeli president in history and only an anti-Semite could blame him for this.

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I believe in the power of prayer. I will pray for the parents, family and friends of this beautiful and kind young woman. I know Malki is at peace with God. I will also write to my Congressperson Craig, US Senators Klobuchar and Smith, Tony Blinken and Joe Biden. I encourage others to do likewise.

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Wow. I don't even know what to say. Sadly, I wouldn't expect the barely-sentient Joe Biden to pick up this case. And the advisors he surrounds himself with hate Israel as much as Tamimi. I dearly wish that weren't so.

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Why are you blaming Biden’s advisers? It was Biden who decided to resume funding to the Palestinian terrorists and embrace Iran which Trump had marginalized.

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Yeah, things were so much better for the Roths when Trump ignored them for four years ...

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Please stop lying, anti-Semitic scum. There’s no evidence Trump knew anything about this. Unlike Obama and Biden, who have both sided with the Palestinian terrorists and emboldened Iran, Trump was the most openly pro-Jewish and pro-Israel president in history.

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Since the issue comes up several times in this mostly partisan discussion, I want to clarify that my wife and I, Malki's parents, delivered personal letters to several senior White House figures after 2017. The actual results speak for themselves. Our revealing the details now won't achieve much.

We emphasized then and now that Tamimi is charged under US law (some of the comments here seem to have not noticed that aspect). And that there is a valid treaty requiring Jordan to extradite to Washington, one that Jordan waves off in a stunningly casual way.

Even before we obtained the document I mentioned in Bari's post, the one that resulted from us suing the State Dept in December 2020 under FOIA, it was clear to fair-minded observers that Jordan's refusal to hand the admitted bomber over to US prosecutors is based on a striking lack of good faith. The FOIA disclosure puts that beyond doubt.

We're not asking anyone for favors. Malki was a US citizen. US law applies to Malki's murder. Jordan has to extradite her. Since it has refused, the US ought to be raising its voice. It has a wide range of reasonable options.

As some of the comments here show, Jordan - the world's third largest recipient of US aid and a country characterized by widespread and massively antisemitic sentiment - is throwing sand in the direction of people's eyes. Sadly it's working for them.

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To begin with, I’m so sorry for your loss. I can’t even imagine what you have been through.

May Malki R.I.P

I have no idea why your request was not dealt with in some form by the Trump administration.

I also have no idea why an unrepentant terrorist like Tamimi was included in the exchange by Israel, which is where your post-tragedy problem began.

I have no idea why Israel releases so many unrepentant terrorists in some sort of breast-beating symbolism and inexplicably emotional exchange for one soldier, leading to some of them killing more innocent Jews.

Releasing 1027 prisoners, including dozens of unrepentant terrorists for one soldier makes no sense at any level, at least to me. I find such an exchange to be reprehensible and inexplicable.

After the Munich Olympics almost every terrorist was held accountable. Why was Tamimi not turned over to Mossad for accountability? I think your daughter may have also been an Israeli citizen.

Finally, while sympathetic to your situation, I’m not going to allow anyone like this Trump-hating anti-Semite named Mark to dilute or denigrate what President Trump objectively did do for Israel, in spite of 70% of American Jews voting for Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden - against Trump in the case of Clinton and Biden. These Democrats have caused nothing but death and destruction for Jews and Israel by emboldening Iran, funding the Palestinian terrorists and pushing for a two state solution which the Arabs have rejected since 1947 while refusing to accept Israel’s right to exist and vowing to wipe Israel off the map and kill Jews.

Israel can have no rational negotiating position in the face of such facts and so, funding the terrorists and emboldening their patron, Iran, is the worst thing the US can do to Israel, and yet it’s what the Democrats have been doing, even resuming after seeing how Trump marginalized Israel’s enemies.

May God bless you and your family as you deal with this inconsolable tragedy that you have suffered.

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Mario,

First, thank you,

Nothing that has happened in the Ahlam Tamimi case since she appallingly walked free in the 2011 deal Israel did with Hamas reflects well on any political figure in Jordan, in the US and in Israel. Nor, with any exceptions at all, on the diplomats serving those countries. The blog my wife and I write together [http://thisongoingwar.blogspot.com/] has dozens of posts that explain and expand.

Being neither stupid nor excessively naive, we have zero interest in viewing any of this through a party-political lens. The comments on this page notwithstanding, this is about justice.

Thanks to the indefatigable Bari Weiss, we have now exposed the truth about the distorted narrative Jordan has allowed to be circulated. Our mission is do what it takes so that heads of state, diplomats and certainly the Missing in Action news industry restore justice to the center of this ongoing narrative where it certainly belongs,

Any other outcome is a disgrace.

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All the best to you and your family. May you eventually succeed in bringing Tamimi to justice.

I would be doing the same in your shoes, other than perhaps primarily blaming Israel for the grossly unbalanced prisoner exchange that included so many unrepentant terrorists.

Had Israel not released so many unrepentant terrorists with no regard to any rational proportionality we wouldn’t be having this discussion.

Having said that, I believe you should continue to pressure the US and Jordan to extradite her and bring her to justice before she kills again!

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Why was Tamimi not assigned to Mossad for accountability?

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The Roth's deserve justice and murderers to need to be held to account.

Still, the root of the problem is societal. In this case, it is Jordanian society, which seems to think murder is not just acceptable, but an actual celebrity career path. This is the root of so much evil and horror. This is not a "moderate" nation. It may not be the most extreme, but any place where murderers are held in high esteem, the nation is not an ally for much of anything.

Malki Roth. Say her name.

Malki Roth. Say her name.

Malki Roth. Say her name.

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Thank you for letting us know this story. I will pray for extradition. There are far too many stories of the glorification of terrorists. Hopefully, this story comes to an end soon.

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I hope Bari excuses me, but I wanted to share an article written about this about a year ago when I first heard of this. The article is a little more in-depth about the politics of the situation, arguably more accusatory of Bibi too.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/failed-by-israel-malki-roths-parents-hope-us-can-extradite-her-gloating-killer/

Times of Israel actually has quite a few articles about this I haven't seen since I read the one above, including Ahlam Tamimi's husband being deported to Qatar.

Jordan is on shaky ground...they're one of the few ME countries without an Arab Spring, yet. They have water and job issues. While it'd be nice to have Tamimi in an American jail, Israel doesn't want a civil war in Jordan either. It's unfortunate, but, perhaps ppl can find solace that Israel has a peaceful, relatively friendly, neighbor.

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This is a tragedy beyond comprehension. Unfortunately there is no law that prevents Israel or USA governments from making deals with adversaries which include prisoner exchanges, and also no law preventing convicted terrorists being part of these exchanges, even those doing life without parole. Exceptions can be made. If Pres Biden heeds this heartfelt plea and pursues the matter either directly with the King of Jordan or indirectly through the State Department and diplomatic back-channels, it is unlikely that Jordan will play ball given the high stakes - Tamimi is a celebrity, her arrest and extradition would likely cause public uproar, the issue can be politicized by opponents of the King and his government, etc. Pres Biden will obviously not burn political capital trying to force the King to act on it, given the vast American business and military interests in Jordan that are too important to jeopardize. However hope springs eternal. Are there other families similarly affected who are still actively pursuing justice? A joint effort in these things can help.

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Biden couldn’t care less. Helping would not benefit him in any way. He doesn’t operate by any other principle than self benefit.

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Same with Trump. Why did this appeal to POTUS wait until Biden's election?

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Neither did Obama-Biden. Besides, Biden put Hamas and Iran back on a pedestal leading to the recent rocket attack on Israel.

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What an unimaginable tragedy. How could one imagine the pain this family has experienced for 20 years. And her killer walks free treated like a rock star. And these are the people we're in bed with.

I hope Malki's family isn't waiting for President Biden to rouse himself to action. Maybe he'll appoint Kamala to spearhead this issue.

Godspeed.

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