It just goes to show you that if Americans illegally invade a foreign state and occupy for no reason, that a few lucky people can then come to the US and become part of our great nation. Let's not dwell on the fact that no American soldiers should have EVER been in Iraq in the first place. Obviously, the villain in thi…
It just goes to show you that if Americans illegally invade a foreign state and occupy for no reason, that a few lucky people can then come to the US and become part of our great nation. Let's not dwell on the fact that no American soldiers should have EVER been in Iraq in the first place. Obviously, the villain in this story is the unnamed Trump supporter...
I am so glad to be a citizen of a country that shamelessly lies to its own people, and the rest of the world, needlessly invades sovereign states but has the courtesy to let some of them come here and experience our generosity and largesse; all because we took the time to destroy their ancient capital, destabilize their nation and pave the way for a band of fanatics!
Go Liberals! Go America!
I wonder if college professors in the Roman Empire wrote this way about their conquered peoples...?
Your memory is poor. Iraq's neighbors were terrified of Saddam's sons, one of whom was an out and out psychopath. He had blungeoned to death an aid to his father in front of the wife of the President of Egypt. That is the stuff wars are made from. And about those rumors of weapons of mass destruction ... I personallly believe those rumors were started by Saddam himself to keep his neighbors in line, particularly Iran, Iraq's traditional enemy, but BBC News carries an article on the subject you might be interested in. In my opinion, the underllying cause of the war was Saddam's age and the fear his adult sons inspired, both inside and outside the country. They were spoiled, they were psychotic, and they had never learned to hide it.
While I agree with you about the Iraq War, your comment seems unnecessarily negative.
The point of the article is that America is a land of opportunity for immigrants. That our classical liberal foundation makes us uniquely able to move forward and fix what we realize is broken.
It is currently the Leftists who have decided that a) classical liberalism is BAD and EVIL, and b) that America is irredeemable and needs to be destroyed and rebuilt as a Leftist utopia.
Hardly. It should sound like what it says: America is an empire in decline not unlike the Roman Empire. We have tried to conquer foreign lands under false pretenses and then, rather that do anything meaningful to own to our faults, we instead laud ourselves for being so noble as to allow some of the conquered to live among us. I disdain noblesse oblige, especially in its American form.
The article is paean to the wrong impulse. My wife is a would-be-immigrant from China. And for all their faults, at least the Chinese won't throng to America after the United States wrongfully storms their nation in an ill conceived tele-drama that won ratings and did little else. Americans seem so incredibly squeamish about wanting to look at what we do abroad. Can you imagine what we would do if foreign tanks destroyed large swathes of Kansas City or Denver? But we are more than willing to contribute to this mayhem and then applaud ourselves when a lucky few come to our shores and tell us they like the smell of our bullshit.
Your comments do not sound like what you think they say.
It sounds as if you believe that not only is America in decline (a point I absolutely agree with, btw), but that America "was NEVER great." You sound exactly like a Leftist bitching about what a horrible country this is.
At least you have to decency to admit that immigrants shouldn't come to such a horrible country; unlike Leftists, who encourage illegal immigration out of one side of their mouths, while decrying America as a racist hellhole out of the other.
Choosing to focus on Iraqi immigrants wasn't really the best gambit for this author, but this essay attempts to make a point about American opportunity, not about American foreign policy.
Fair point. But I think the characterization of if/when America was ever a "great" nation is not productive. I make comments referring to the times in which I live. I also don't mythologize. I think it isn't necessary. I am a southerner at heart and have no problem admitting two important realities:
1. The South was wrong in the Civil War and deserved to lose.
2. Yankees are horrible people who took great pleasure in not only destroying the South but in rubbing salt in the wounds of southerners for generations.
Both are true.
1. America is the greatest nation on earth.
2. The greatest nation on earth is plagued by some damned ugly problems.
You are letting your southern sympathies geet the better of you. The Yankees never wanted to go to war. They dragged their feet at the beginning. The South fought valiantly. But that resulted in a lot of Yankee deaths and dismemberments. So, you can hardly blame the north for coming down hard on the enemy that had killed and maimed so many of its sons.
Oh, please do get a life. I helped a newly arrived Iraqi Kurdish family back in the 1990s and they BEGGED every American they knew to tell President Bush to invade Iraq. Because they knew what a monster Saddam was and how he tortured people and dumped poison gas on thousands of Kurds and that anything was preferable to him staying in power. You make it sound like it was heaven in Baghdad (their 'ancient capital'?) before we invaded. Believe me, it was not.
Well I guess I stand corrected! When some random stranger begs you to ask your president to invade their homeland then you do what good Americans do and you do it! I'll remember that the next time I am overseas! I might just beg someone in a foreign land to come to Washington to forcibly remove Joe Biden!
Please beg everyone and anyone to remove Joe Biden. He’s been a vampiric, useless but arrogant parasite long enough. This country can’t get rid of him for over 45 years!!! Can you name at least 1 excellent accomplishment he is responsible for? His record shows so much shameless, terrible or even unnecessary lies...and flipping from one end of the spectrum to another just to hold on to freebies!
What a great essay!
It just goes to show you that if Americans illegally invade a foreign state and occupy for no reason, that a few lucky people can then come to the US and become part of our great nation. Let's not dwell on the fact that no American soldiers should have EVER been in Iraq in the first place. Obviously, the villain in this story is the unnamed Trump supporter...
I am so glad to be a citizen of a country that shamelessly lies to its own people, and the rest of the world, needlessly invades sovereign states but has the courtesy to let some of them come here and experience our generosity and largesse; all because we took the time to destroy their ancient capital, destabilize their nation and pave the way for a band of fanatics!
Go Liberals! Go America!
I wonder if college professors in the Roman Empire wrote this way about their conquered peoples...?
Your memory is poor. Iraq's neighbors were terrified of Saddam's sons, one of whom was an out and out psychopath. He had blungeoned to death an aid to his father in front of the wife of the President of Egypt. That is the stuff wars are made from. And about those rumors of weapons of mass destruction ... I personallly believe those rumors were started by Saddam himself to keep his neighbors in line, particularly Iran, Iraq's traditional enemy, but BBC News carries an article on the subject you might be interested in. In my opinion, the underllying cause of the war was Saddam's age and the fear his adult sons inspired, both inside and outside the country. They were spoiled, they were psychotic, and they had never learned to hide it.
While I agree with you about the Iraq War, your comment seems unnecessarily negative.
The point of the article is that America is a land of opportunity for immigrants. That our classical liberal foundation makes us uniquely able to move forward and fix what we realize is broken.
It is currently the Leftists who have decided that a) classical liberalism is BAD and EVIL, and b) that America is irredeemable and needs to be destroyed and rebuilt as a Leftist utopia.
Sounds like you are siding with the Leftists.
Hardly. It should sound like what it says: America is an empire in decline not unlike the Roman Empire. We have tried to conquer foreign lands under false pretenses and then, rather that do anything meaningful to own to our faults, we instead laud ourselves for being so noble as to allow some of the conquered to live among us. I disdain noblesse oblige, especially in its American form.
The article is paean to the wrong impulse. My wife is a would-be-immigrant from China. And for all their faults, at least the Chinese won't throng to America after the United States wrongfully storms their nation in an ill conceived tele-drama that won ratings and did little else. Americans seem so incredibly squeamish about wanting to look at what we do abroad. Can you imagine what we would do if foreign tanks destroyed large swathes of Kansas City or Denver? But we are more than willing to contribute to this mayhem and then applaud ourselves when a lucky few come to our shores and tell us they like the smell of our bullshit.
Your comments do not sound like what you think they say.
It sounds as if you believe that not only is America in decline (a point I absolutely agree with, btw), but that America "was NEVER great." You sound exactly like a Leftist bitching about what a horrible country this is.
At least you have to decency to admit that immigrants shouldn't come to such a horrible country; unlike Leftists, who encourage illegal immigration out of one side of their mouths, while decrying America as a racist hellhole out of the other.
Choosing to focus on Iraqi immigrants wasn't really the best gambit for this author, but this essay attempts to make a point about American opportunity, not about American foreign policy.
Fair point. But I think the characterization of if/when America was ever a "great" nation is not productive. I make comments referring to the times in which I live. I also don't mythologize. I think it isn't necessary. I am a southerner at heart and have no problem admitting two important realities:
1. The South was wrong in the Civil War and deserved to lose.
2. Yankees are horrible people who took great pleasure in not only destroying the South but in rubbing salt in the wounds of southerners for generations.
Both are true.
1. America is the greatest nation on earth.
2. The greatest nation on earth is plagued by some damned ugly problems.
You are letting your southern sympathies geet the better of you. The Yankees never wanted to go to war. They dragged their feet at the beginning. The South fought valiantly. But that resulted in a lot of Yankee deaths and dismemberments. So, you can hardly blame the north for coming down hard on the enemy that had killed and maimed so many of its sons.
He sure is letting his southern sympathies shine today.
Oh, please do get a life. I helped a newly arrived Iraqi Kurdish family back in the 1990s and they BEGGED every American they knew to tell President Bush to invade Iraq. Because they knew what a monster Saddam was and how he tortured people and dumped poison gas on thousands of Kurds and that anything was preferable to him staying in power. You make it sound like it was heaven in Baghdad (their 'ancient capital'?) before we invaded. Believe me, it was not.
Well I guess I stand corrected! When some random stranger begs you to ask your president to invade their homeland then you do what good Americans do and you do it! I'll remember that the next time I am overseas! I might just beg someone in a foreign land to come to Washington to forcibly remove Joe Biden!
Up yours!
Please beg everyone and anyone to remove Joe Biden. He’s been a vampiric, useless but arrogant parasite long enough. This country can’t get rid of him for over 45 years!!! Can you name at least 1 excellent accomplishment he is responsible for? His record shows so much shameless, terrible or even unnecessary lies...and flipping from one end of the spectrum to another just to hold on to freebies!
Two misleading/false and obnoxious comments that did not improve the conversation.
Point them out and I will correct them.