Yeah, yeah - the coercion that we all heard about. I wonder what would have happened if Twitter actually said to the government forget it and go away. We're publishing what we want. Facebook as well. I haven't read anywhere what it was that the government would have threatened them with. Yes, the gov't would have been mad as hell, but wh…
Yeah, yeah - the coercion that we all heard about. I wonder what would have happened if Twitter actually said to the government forget it and go away. We're publishing what we want. Facebook as well. I haven't read anywhere what it was that the government would have threatened them with. Yes, the gov't would have been mad as hell, but what would have happened? The Post broke the laptop story - what happened to them? I don't think anything..
The govt threatened them with revocation of their immunity from lawsuits ( section 230). This is confirmed fact from testimonies in fron of Congress as well as from the Twitter files.
The govt used 51 intelligence honchos to discredit the post story , and to make it easy for all other media to not report on the laptop. That is real interference with the press to influence the election.
These are facts not personal opinion.Defending banana republic tactics to what end?
I'll take your word for it. They got down and dirty. They have the power. But of all media companies, Facebook and Twitter could have gone toe to toe with the gov't lawyer to lawyer, they have the means - and beaten up Biden in the court of public opinion - since they have the platform. But - they chose not too.
The issue at hand is that the government violated our First Amendment rights by doing through the back door in secret what they could not do through the front door in the open. We would not know about it ( although many suspected this was going on) if not for Elon Musk and Taibbi and Shellenberger and a few others. Mike Benz( a long term intelligence officer) explains the government t censorship apparatus in his posts and YouTube videos. He is non partisan and full of facts and information.( not flashy in the slightest)
I'll reiterate again - these platforms did not have to buckle to the government. They just made a business decision to do so. Blame the Biden Admin, okay. But blame Twitter and facebook et al more..
I’ll reiterate that they were threatened and it was all done in secret. We would still know nothing about if not for the lawsuits that compelled discovery and Elon Musk opening up the Twitter Files.
I don’t understand why you downplay the enormity of the threat of censorship apparatus.
Please watch Freddy Sayers on what was done to Unheard in the sneakiest of fashions. Watch Mike Benz.
This was not a simple” business decision”
We have a Supreme Court justice Jackson who openly said that the First Amendment “ hamstrings h government”!
That is precisely why the Framers in their wisdom gave us that Amendment. It is to protect us from the government.
I respect your position. And the government indeed is in the censorship business. But I'll maintain that these media outlets/platforms/forums had no legal requirement to comply. They enjoy First Amendment rights as well. They could have fought it but decided for their own reasons not to. I guess we'll just agree to disagree..
Yeah, yeah - the coercion that we all heard about. I wonder what would have happened if Twitter actually said to the government forget it and go away. We're publishing what we want. Facebook as well. I haven't read anywhere what it was that the government would have threatened them with. Yes, the gov't would have been mad as hell, but what would have happened? The Post broke the laptop story - what happened to them? I don't think anything..
The govt threatened them with revocation of their immunity from lawsuits ( section 230). This is confirmed fact from testimonies in fron of Congress as well as from the Twitter files.
The govt used 51 intelligence honchos to discredit the post story , and to make it easy for all other media to not report on the laptop. That is real interference with the press to influence the election.
These are facts not personal opinion.Defending banana republic tactics to what end?
I am an independent voter.
I'll take your word for it. They got down and dirty. They have the power. But of all media companies, Facebook and Twitter could have gone toe to toe with the gov't lawyer to lawyer, they have the means - and beaten up Biden in the court of public opinion - since they have the platform. But - they chose not too.
The issue at hand is that the government violated our First Amendment rights by doing through the back door in secret what they could not do through the front door in the open. We would not know about it ( although many suspected this was going on) if not for Elon Musk and Taibbi and Shellenberger and a few others. Mike Benz( a long term intelligence officer) explains the government t censorship apparatus in his posts and YouTube videos. He is non partisan and full of facts and information.( not flashy in the slightest)
I'll reiterate again - these platforms did not have to buckle to the government. They just made a business decision to do so. Blame the Biden Admin, okay. But blame Twitter and facebook et al more..
I’ll reiterate that they were threatened and it was all done in secret. We would still know nothing about if not for the lawsuits that compelled discovery and Elon Musk opening up the Twitter Files.
I don’t understand why you downplay the enormity of the threat of censorship apparatus.
Please watch Freddy Sayers on what was done to Unheard in the sneakiest of fashions. Watch Mike Benz.
This was not a simple” business decision”
We have a Supreme Court justice Jackson who openly said that the First Amendment “ hamstrings h government”!
That is precisely why the Framers in their wisdom gave us that Amendment. It is to protect us from the government.
I respect your position. And the government indeed is in the censorship business. But I'll maintain that these media outlets/platforms/forums had no legal requirement to comply. They enjoy First Amendment rights as well. They could have fought it but decided for their own reasons not to. I guess we'll just agree to disagree..