The uncommitteds are nothing more than the Hamas wing of the Democrats. They don’t even care that we have spent more than $150 billion for Ukraine, they just want Israel wiped off the map and are delusional. The Democrats will continue to appease them especially Harris and they will do so at their political peril.
Both Ukraine and Israel are our democratic allies that should be supported against the enemies ruled by fascist (Russia) or islamist (Iran) dictators. The Hamas terrorists fans in the democratic party and the pro- Putin wing of the Republicans seem to not understand that those dictators support each other and want to eradicate liberal democracies worldwide (which they see as a threat to their authoritarian leadership style).
These are actual Palestinian values as practiced in actual Palestinian society:
rule of law? No
free speech? No
freedom of the press? No
abortion rights? No
freedom of religion? No
freedom to protest? No
voting rights? No
LGBT rights? No
women’s rights? No
due process rights? No
As a society, it teaches hate and bigotry to its children, telling them they can achieve status in society via terrorism. That's child abuse on a mass scale. The are schools, women's clubs, parks, sports teams, etc named after terrorists.
The society overwhelmingly supported the 10/7 attacks, which featured mass murder of unarmed civilians, mass kidnapping and rape.
Palestinian society is legitimately, among the world's worst.
When you say you support Palestinians and their disturbingly awful society and don't address ANY of these issues but instead blame Israel, you tell me you are morally bankrupt.
I'm waiting for a Democratic leader to tell this basic truth.
It is absurd. Recently, China pulls a bunch of Palestinian elements so they can figure out how to run the place. Voting? Nope. Elections? Nope. Same cronies with bad policies trying to figure out how to keep power and fail. Again.
To be candid, there's plenty more that's also staggeringly awful. It is a deeply bigoted society. In 2022, an Islamic scholar went to al aqsa mosque in Jerusalem and called for massacres of ... Hindus. In front of a cheering crowd.
"Siam then said that the only appropriate reaction is to declare Jihad for the sake of Allah and to discipline the infidels and polytheists, eradicate them, and he called on the armies of Muslim countries throughout the world, and particularly Pakistan, to take action against the Hindus in defense of Islam and the Prophet Muhammad. "
Chris Sununu just said that if the Republicans had run almost any other candidate they'd be winning by 10 points. I can't tell you how much I wish they would have done this. This fakakta allegiance to Trump is not only undermining the republican party itself, but also this country. We need someone who can look at foreign policy with some common sense leading us now.. or our 'internal' political atmosphere will be moot.
he has plenty of common sense and led the world (and middle east) to peace while Biden/harris has us on the brink of WWIII. Trump is a character...but he is the best choice for world peace, safety for Jews everywhere, and American values
Trump is the Emergency a room Doctor for the USA and really free world….he will not become my best friend….but I want our a country to SURVIVE…..the otherwise EIS focused on the Fundamental Transformation……no thank you
Anyone who wants to see what far left politics/politicians do and or what societies look like with far left in power---look at the UK, look at France, look at Canada. Radical islamism is ruling the day. Those gov's are too chicken to come down hard on what's happening OR they truly support it. Either way, freedom is being lost. Not gained! You may not like Trump, but remember this is a biz decision. I don't like they guy and up till 10 mos ago, I would have sworn on my life I wouldn't vote for him. However, here's reality: if i need triple bypass/if my plane is going down/ if I'm walking into war, do I give a shit about the surgeon/pilot/general's personality? NO. I care about results and knowing someone is tested. Kamala has become a character in a movie. This isn't who she is. This is the media/hollywood's creation. I'm not seeking a spouse or a bff. I'm seeking the person who can keep our country from WW3, get mobs of pro terrorists off our streets, close our border, help us all get more $ into our bank accounts. Period. I want the surgeon/pilot/general who is the most skilled. Kamala is NOT that. Up till 5 wks ago, every dem wanted her off the ticket as VP bcz they viewed her as inept. She didn't wake up a new person. The media made her into something she's not.
Jews who feel any sense of attachment to Am Yisrael will soon realize that they have been abandoned by the Democrats for political expediency. I could never vote for Harris in a million years and sadly, Dems who staunchly support Israel are becoming unicorns. It's Kafka-esque madness that terrorists and medieval cultures receive such support. I understand why as a marketing researcher who studies how beliefs cluster, but it is still madness.
Unfortunately, the choice is between a party beholden to a boorish blowhard, and a party where anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism have become part of the gestalt, if not the actual platform. For this American Jew, unlike in the last 2 Presidential elections it is no longer a difficult choice. I could write in Haley or Fetterman (hey, wouldn't that be a great ticket!), but that seems an inadequate response.
the "Boorish Blowhard" is the one who created the Abraham Accords and led the most powerful nation to a peaceful time. whatever, Trump is as a person (and yes, sometimes I cringe), he is the best choice for America, western values, and the safety of israel and Jews worldwide.
They do not have to push. They just have to wait. There will soon be more Muslim voters than liberal Jewish voters. At that point, like it always does with the Democrats, principle will die on the hill of expediency. They are 40 percent there already.
It’s all so petty. "I want to control every aspect of government without the hassle of voting, running for office, or lifting a finger for any cause that actually makes a difference. I just want to vote once and magically have everything go my way so I can finally stop stressing about the direction we're headed. No wars, no suffering, no poverty—just a perfect world with zero tradeoffs." Do they not realize that life doesn’t work like that?
They literally can’t see that wishing and pushing for someone who will steamroll thru all the things they want can also lead to someone who will do the opposite?
I see nothing wrong with being critical of Israel and Israel's atrocious treatment of Palestinian civilians. And Biden was right to call it: no doubt Israel's carpet bombing of civilian targets has been (and continues to be) “over the top." And no, no amount of whataboutism justifies it.... bombing poor people is bad policy. And make no mistake, Jewish settlers should be forced out of Palestinian land to make way for a 2-state solution.
That said, Israel exists and should be "allowed" to exist. Therefore, where these yahoos lose me, just like with so many of Israel's supporters, they seem to look the other way when "their own side" does bad and they defend these bad actions as "by any means necessary." In this case, many of them still see nothing wrong with Hamas, Hamas' tactics, and Hamas taking hostages.... and they still don't seem to recognize that "River to the Sea" literally means removing Israel from the face of the earth. Not to mention the stupidity of LGB activists defending people who would quite literally string them up for being LGB...
I see nothing wrong with being critical of Israel. I see a problem with demonization of Israel. Calling what Israel is doing "carpet bombing of civilian targets" is where you lose me. Israel does no such thing. If it were, there would be no civilian targets or civilians left in Gaza. You really don't need to believe anything Israel says to understand that. And yet, you have no problem tossing this obvious falsehood as conventional wisdom.
The Palestinians have turned down a 2-state solution at least 5 times over the past century. When Arafat rejected the proposal endorsed by Clinton in 2000, he went back without further bargaining and greenlighted the 2nd intifada. That had the effect (desired?) of destroying the Israeli peace camp. 10/7 just reconfirmed that on the Palestinian side, there is no interest in a peaceful 2-state solution.
Jewish settlers were forced out Gaza in 2005, by the Israeli government. Doesn't seem to have had the result you expect. Why do you think doing the same thing again will have a different result?
Obama eased up on Iran and they now have more money. Trump reversed it, Biden reversed Trump. You can guarantee what Harris will do. Iran does NOT want Trump back.
and circular sourcing is not legitimate: Just because NYT cites WP which sites reuters, which cites hamas is not a legitimate source. Which is how much of this misinformation is being laundered to become 'news'.
Megyn Kelly is joined by Tom Bevan, Carl Cannon, and Andrew Walworth of RealClearPolitics to discuss the latest on the Democratic National Convention, the violent anti-Israel protesters, the absurdity of the protesters wearing abortion pill costumes, free abortions and vasectomies outside the DNC, a "land acknowledgment" kicking off the DNC, and more.
Megyn Kelly is joined by Tom Bevan, Carl Cannon, and Andrew Walworth of RealClearPolitics to discuss what to expect in President Biden’s speech at the DNC, how there is continued resentment from Biden and his supporters about how the Democratic elite pushed him out as the nominee, whether the tension will reveal itself during the convention, and more.
"Though Biden won more than 618,000 votes in the Michigan primary on February 27 and earned 115 pledged delegates, just over 100,000 people voted “uncommitted”—enough to deny him two delegates at the DNC. That got the attention of the White House. "
Based upon the numbers here he got 98.3% of the delegates...and that got them concerned?
In the 2020 election in Michigan, Biden got 154,188 more votes than Trump. .
If 100,000 of those who voted for Biden don't vote for him in 2024, there will be a margin of 54,188. Not comfortable given that it is less than 1% of the voters. Its numbers and margins.
You really think that in the general election they'd be so ideologically pure that they'd not vote for a democrat, almost ensuring that a republican would win the state?
Rhetorical comment: how can Democratic voters be alright with a move that put an unelected member into position without their official nomination and vote? Just how? It still boggles my mind.
In addition, that sympathy for the Jewish state among Democrat voters and Jewish voters are not more up in arms about this. They're not a monolith. Why don't they stand up and speak against this? Eh, I know. I'm shouting at the wind.
The Democrat faithful, and those whose ballots they will harvest, would praise and campaign and vote for a potato or Max Headroom if their politburo told them to.
Im up in arms about it. But there are not enough of me. Israel is in real trouble if it loses us as an ally. And for what? Michigan? And what is the alternative? Trump? Since when did Jews become a dividing issue in this country? Is this Nazi Germany? All of this rhetoric is coming dangerously close to the kind of talk about “the Jewish Question” that I thought had been abandoned long ago. My ethnicity is now a political issue, in America, land of the free and champion of diversity and inclusion. And ONLY mine, no other.
Listening to NPR talk about the Democratic Party and the convention, and reading the New York Times and the journal, you would have no idea that Jews are pissed off about Kamala. But we are. I think we are in somewhat significant numbers, but unfortunately, our significant numbers aren’t ultimately very significant. They’re just not enough of us.
I doubt you'll be the only member of a group they come for; give it time. There will and usually are more scapegoats; it's just a matter of who serves a political end for someone else's machinations and designs.
I am sorry to hear that, though it's probably poor consolation and comfort coming from a stranger on the internet.
No, I do appreciate the sentiment, and I’m sure there will be other targets. But, it’s particularly galling to become the target of a party that makes it a point to defend, welcome, and even celebrate every other group. You expect this kind of thing from Republicans, but from people who have traditionally championed pluralism and tolerance, it’s a slap in the face. In fact, that’s one of the reasons I am a Democrat, I believe in equality of opportunity and fighting discrimination. Alas, to paraphrase Orwell, some groups are just more equal than others, I suppose. I am member of a minority, but not considered one in the eyes of the party who historically should be the one to protect me. And despite our relative success in this wonderful country which has given us opportunities we never had elsewhere, (owing to horrible marginalization), we do need protection, as you can see from how quickly recent sentiment has turned against us. So I’m between a rock and a hard place. I could become a Republican out of self-interest (does anyone become a Republican out of anything other than self-interest?), but they don’t stand for protecting the rights of any minorities, really, except for this one right now, because it’s a way to stick it to the Dems, who many justifiably feel have gone too far in the way of “equity” over true equality.
Apparently people have a hard time with the fact the Israel is a sovereign state and not part of the US. This is a conflict between bad and worse. Israel has a shitty government at this moment. This is why you separate church and state. The bottom line is that without US weapons Israel will not survive. Hamas is using civilian deaths to cut off foreign support. This will continue if we bow to the strategy. Arabs in the US don’t like Israel. That’s not a surprise. It sucks, but it’s in our strategic interest to back Israel. Once this conflict is over, then cut back the arms or make more arms contingent on better behavior. Do not side with people who murder and steal from their own people.
This says it all!!! - "The Uncommitted Movement was first founded in February as “Listen to Michigan”—named after the state with the largest Arab American population in the country. Layla Elabed, the sister of Michigan Democratic Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib, is campaign manager for the national movement." This IS NOT "Uncommitted", this is "Committed" is the truest sense of the word!
I think the Dems believe that US Jews that have voted Democratic in the past are blind to seeing the anti-semitism from the tiktok radicalized youth. The Dems don't want to acknowledge the stampede of Jews flocking to Trump. The ones like Schumer and Bernie will never change but they are a minority.
In our defense, this seems to have happened really fast, since October 7. I personally didn’t see antisemitism on the left before this. Not that it didn’t exist. Bit there definitely seems to be an “out of the woodwork” aspect to it. Or perhaps October 7 shone a light on what was already there.
I find it fascinating and also super manipulative that the media is not reporting this phenomenon. Definitely happening in my traditionally blue state and among me and my traditionally Dem Jewish friends.
interesting observation. The dems are trying to only setup one view of everything and from only one angle. If your view is not in the same alignment the picture is obviously off and very wrong. If they can just keep everyone looking in the right direction for only a few more months they are good. They are obviously in hail-mary mode.
Schumer and Bernie are politicians, bought and paid for. They have not commitment to anyone other than themself
Good points Zeke, except your first one. They are absolutely FOR the rule of law, the Sharia.
The uncommitteds are nothing more than the Hamas wing of the Democrats. They don’t even care that we have spent more than $150 billion for Ukraine, they just want Israel wiped off the map and are delusional. The Democrats will continue to appease them especially Harris and they will do so at their political peril.
Both Ukraine and Israel are our democratic allies that should be supported against the enemies ruled by fascist (Russia) or islamist (Iran) dictators. The Hamas terrorists fans in the democratic party and the pro- Putin wing of the Republicans seem to not understand that those dictators support each other and want to eradicate liberal democracies worldwide (which they see as a threat to their authoritarian leadership style).
For some strange reason Ukraine doesn’t seem to attract protesters.
These are actual Palestinian values as practiced in actual Palestinian society:
rule of law? No
free speech? No
freedom of the press? No
abortion rights? No
freedom of religion? No
freedom to protest? No
voting rights? No
LGBT rights? No
women’s rights? No
due process rights? No
As a society, it teaches hate and bigotry to its children, telling them they can achieve status in society via terrorism. That's child abuse on a mass scale. The are schools, women's clubs, parks, sports teams, etc named after terrorists.
The society overwhelmingly supported the 10/7 attacks, which featured mass murder of unarmed civilians, mass kidnapping and rape.
Palestinian society is legitimately, among the world's worst.
When you say you support Palestinians and their disturbingly awful society and don't address ANY of these issues but instead blame Israel, you tell me you are morally bankrupt.
I'm waiting for a Democratic leader to tell this basic truth.
Don’t hold your breath waiting for a Demo Leader to come forward…the challenge will be mind cleansing the hatred embedded in the Gaza population
Zeke you left out:
Elections every 20 years? No
Lack of elections = no voting rights.
It is absurd. Recently, China pulls a bunch of Palestinian elements so they can figure out how to run the place. Voting? Nope. Elections? Nope. Same cronies with bad policies trying to figure out how to keep power and fail. Again.
you left out racial discrimination against blacks who mostly live in a section of Palestine called by an arabic name that means 'slave town".
To be candid, there's plenty more that's also staggeringly awful. It is a deeply bigoted society. In 2022, an Islamic scholar went to al aqsa mosque in Jerusalem and called for massacres of ... Hindus. In front of a cheering crowd.
"Siam then said that the only appropriate reaction is to declare Jihad for the sake of Allah and to discipline the infidels and polytheists, eradicate them, and he called on the armies of Muslim countries throughout the world, and particularly Pakistan, to take action against the Hindus in defense of Islam and the Prophet Muhammad. "
https://www.memri.org/tv/aqsa-mosque-anti-india-rally-muhammad-controversy-jihad-infidels-in-line-eradicate-the-filthy-hindus
EVERYONE has to be Muslim.
Chris Sununu just said that if the Republicans had run almost any other candidate they'd be winning by 10 points. I can't tell you how much I wish they would have done this. This fakakta allegiance to Trump is not only undermining the republican party itself, but also this country. We need someone who can look at foreign policy with some common sense leading us now.. or our 'internal' political atmosphere will be moot.
I’m an outsider here but I do agree that Trump is a bad candidate and I don’t why he was picked.
he has plenty of common sense and led the world (and middle east) to peace while Biden/harris has us on the brink of WWIII. Trump is a character...but he is the best choice for world peace, safety for Jews everywhere, and American values
I'd vote Haley in a heartbeat.
I'm in the undecided camp now.
After voting Dem in every presidential election since 1976.
Trump is the Emergency a room Doctor for the USA and really free world….he will not become my best friend….but I want our a country to SURVIVE…..the otherwise EIS focused on the Fundamental Transformation……no thank you
What does this means- "Applying pressure, while strengthening the democracy"?
Where were they when we had war in Iran and Afghanistan? Where are they with "democracy strengthening" in Ukraine and Russia, or Africa, or Brazil?
So much for Uncommitted Movements.
I guess shouting is much easier than shoveling.
Anyone who wants to see what far left politics/politicians do and or what societies look like with far left in power---look at the UK, look at France, look at Canada. Radical islamism is ruling the day. Those gov's are too chicken to come down hard on what's happening OR they truly support it. Either way, freedom is being lost. Not gained! You may not like Trump, but remember this is a biz decision. I don't like they guy and up till 10 mos ago, I would have sworn on my life I wouldn't vote for him. However, here's reality: if i need triple bypass/if my plane is going down/ if I'm walking into war, do I give a shit about the surgeon/pilot/general's personality? NO. I care about results and knowing someone is tested. Kamala has become a character in a movie. This isn't who she is. This is the media/hollywood's creation. I'm not seeking a spouse or a bff. I'm seeking the person who can keep our country from WW3, get mobs of pro terrorists off our streets, close our border, help us all get more $ into our bank accounts. Period. I want the surgeon/pilot/general who is the most skilled. Kamala is NOT that. Up till 5 wks ago, every dem wanted her off the ticket as VP bcz they viewed her as inept. She didn't wake up a new person. The media made her into something she's not.
Jews who feel any sense of attachment to Am Yisrael will soon realize that they have been abandoned by the Democrats for political expediency. I could never vote for Harris in a million years and sadly, Dems who staunchly support Israel are becoming unicorns. It's Kafka-esque madness that terrorists and medieval cultures receive such support. I understand why as a marketing researcher who studies how beliefs cluster, but it is still madness.
Unfortunately, the choice is between a party beholden to a boorish blowhard, and a party where anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism have become part of the gestalt, if not the actual platform. For this American Jew, unlike in the last 2 Presidential elections it is no longer a difficult choice. I could write in Haley or Fetterman (hey, wouldn't that be a great ticket!), but that seems an inadequate response.
the "Boorish Blowhard" is the one who created the Abraham Accords and led the most powerful nation to a peaceful time. whatever, Trump is as a person (and yes, sometimes I cringe), he is the best choice for America, western values, and the safety of israel and Jews worldwide.
They do not have to push. They just have to wait. There will soon be more Muslim voters than liberal Jewish voters. At that point, like it always does with the Democrats, principle will die on the hill of expediency. They are 40 percent there already.
It’s all so petty. "I want to control every aspect of government without the hassle of voting, running for office, or lifting a finger for any cause that actually makes a difference. I just want to vote once and magically have everything go my way so I can finally stop stressing about the direction we're headed. No wars, no suffering, no poverty—just a perfect world with zero tradeoffs." Do they not realize that life doesn’t work like that?
No they don’t
They literally can’t see that wishing and pushing for someone who will steamroll thru all the things they want can also lead to someone who will do the opposite?
I see nothing wrong with being critical of Israel and Israel's atrocious treatment of Palestinian civilians. And Biden was right to call it: no doubt Israel's carpet bombing of civilian targets has been (and continues to be) “over the top." And no, no amount of whataboutism justifies it.... bombing poor people is bad policy. And make no mistake, Jewish settlers should be forced out of Palestinian land to make way for a 2-state solution.
That said, Israel exists and should be "allowed" to exist. Therefore, where these yahoos lose me, just like with so many of Israel's supporters, they seem to look the other way when "their own side" does bad and they defend these bad actions as "by any means necessary." In this case, many of them still see nothing wrong with Hamas, Hamas' tactics, and Hamas taking hostages.... and they still don't seem to recognize that "River to the Sea" literally means removing Israel from the face of the earth. Not to mention the stupidity of LGB activists defending people who would quite literally string them up for being LGB...
I see nothing wrong with being critical of Israel. I see a problem with demonization of Israel. Calling what Israel is doing "carpet bombing of civilian targets" is where you lose me. Israel does no such thing. If it were, there would be no civilian targets or civilians left in Gaza. You really don't need to believe anything Israel says to understand that. And yet, you have no problem tossing this obvious falsehood as conventional wisdom.
And as we see in the responses here, Israeli supporters can be just as delusional as Palestinian supporters.
Lance, using the term "carpet bombing" is delusional. You might as well have thrown in "scorched earth" while you were at it.
Israel doesn’t have the aircraft for carpet bombing, it’s so dumb to have to read that.
LOL - there are plenty of ways to carpet bomb cities in 2024 that don't require aircraft....
If you replaced “carpet bomb” with “attack” your statement would be correct.
As it stands, though, it’s incorrect. Somehow I doubt you’ll change your usage though.
The Palestinians have turned down a 2-state solution at least 5 times over the past century. When Arafat rejected the proposal endorsed by Clinton in 2000, he went back without further bargaining and greenlighted the 2nd intifada. That had the effect (desired?) of destroying the Israeli peace camp. 10/7 just reconfirmed that on the Palestinian side, there is no interest in a peaceful 2-state solution.
Jewish settlers were forced out Gaza in 2005, by the Israeli government. Doesn't seem to have had the result you expect. Why do you think doing the same thing again will have a different result?
So what do you suggest?
Cut off the supply of arms. Iran is a big funder.
Obama eased up on Iran and they now have more money. Trump reversed it, Biden reversed Trump. You can guarantee what Harris will do. Iran does NOT want Trump back.
You’re the one suggesting a solution. I’m just pointing out that it fits Einstein’s definition of insanity.
They keep reporting that they’re’carpet bombing’ but they aren’t. No amount of saying it makes it true
Yeah, except they are.
provide your 'sources'
and circular sourcing is not legitimate: Just because NYT cites WP which sites reuters, which cites hamas is not a legitimate source. Which is how much of this misinformation is being laundered to become 'news'.
Protesters Dressed as Abortion Pills, Free Vasectomies, Land Acknowledgments - The DNC Has Arrived
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZCuM5oK9n4
Aug 19, 2024
Megyn Kelly is joined by Tom Bevan, Carl Cannon, and Andrew Walworth of RealClearPolitics to discuss the latest on the Democratic National Convention, the violent anti-Israel protesters, the absurdity of the protesters wearing abortion pill costumes, free abortions and vasectomies outside the DNC, a "land acknowledgment" kicking off the DNC, and more.
Major Tension Between Biden and Democratic Elite as He Addresses DNC, with RealClearPolitics Hosts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Gmhw8xjpgU
Aug 19, 2024
Megyn Kelly is joined by Tom Bevan, Carl Cannon, and Andrew Walworth of RealClearPolitics to discuss what to expect in President Biden’s speech at the DNC, how there is continued resentment from Biden and his supporters about how the Democratic elite pushed him out as the nominee, whether the tension will reveal itself during the convention, and more.
"Though Biden won more than 618,000 votes in the Michigan primary on February 27 and earned 115 pledged delegates, just over 100,000 people voted “uncommitted”—enough to deny him two delegates at the DNC. That got the attention of the White House. "
Based upon the numbers here he got 98.3% of the delegates...and that got them concerned?
In the 2020 election in Michigan, Biden got 154,188 more votes than Trump. .
If 100,000 of those who voted for Biden don't vote for him in 2024, there will be a margin of 54,188. Not comfortable given that it is less than 1% of the voters. Its numbers and margins.
You really think that in the general election they'd be so ideologically pure that they'd not vote for a democrat, almost ensuring that a republican would win the state?
So disappointing
Rhetorical comment: how can Democratic voters be alright with a move that put an unelected member into position without their official nomination and vote? Just how? It still boggles my mind.
In addition, that sympathy for the Jewish state among Democrat voters and Jewish voters are not more up in arms about this. They're not a monolith. Why don't they stand up and speak against this? Eh, I know. I'm shouting at the wind.
The Democrat faithful, and those whose ballots they will harvest, would praise and campaign and vote for a potato or Max Headroom if their politburo told them to.
Im up in arms about it. But there are not enough of me. Israel is in real trouble if it loses us as an ally. And for what? Michigan? And what is the alternative? Trump? Since when did Jews become a dividing issue in this country? Is this Nazi Germany? All of this rhetoric is coming dangerously close to the kind of talk about “the Jewish Question” that I thought had been abandoned long ago. My ethnicity is now a political issue, in America, land of the free and champion of diversity and inclusion. And ONLY mine, no other.
Listening to NPR talk about the Democratic Party and the convention, and reading the New York Times and the journal, you would have no idea that Jews are pissed off about Kamala. But we are. I think we are in somewhat significant numbers, but unfortunately, our significant numbers aren’t ultimately very significant. They’re just not enough of us.
There’s not many Jews but they are significant donors to the Dems. They are wealthier than average as a group.
I doubt you'll be the only member of a group they come for; give it time. There will and usually are more scapegoats; it's just a matter of who serves a political end for someone else's machinations and designs.
I am sorry to hear that, though it's probably poor consolation and comfort coming from a stranger on the internet.
No, I do appreciate the sentiment, and I’m sure there will be other targets. But, it’s particularly galling to become the target of a party that makes it a point to defend, welcome, and even celebrate every other group. You expect this kind of thing from Republicans, but from people who have traditionally championed pluralism and tolerance, it’s a slap in the face. In fact, that’s one of the reasons I am a Democrat, I believe in equality of opportunity and fighting discrimination. Alas, to paraphrase Orwell, some groups are just more equal than others, I suppose. I am member of a minority, but not considered one in the eyes of the party who historically should be the one to protect me. And despite our relative success in this wonderful country which has given us opportunities we never had elsewhere, (owing to horrible marginalization), we do need protection, as you can see from how quickly recent sentiment has turned against us. So I’m between a rock and a hard place. I could become a Republican out of self-interest (does anyone become a Republican out of anything other than self-interest?), but they don’t stand for protecting the rights of any minorities, really, except for this one right now, because it’s a way to stick it to the Dems, who many justifiably feel have gone too far in the way of “equity” over true equality.
Apparently people have a hard time with the fact the Israel is a sovereign state and not part of the US. This is a conflict between bad and worse. Israel has a shitty government at this moment. This is why you separate church and state. The bottom line is that without US weapons Israel will not survive. Hamas is using civilian deaths to cut off foreign support. This will continue if we bow to the strategy. Arabs in the US don’t like Israel. That’s not a surprise. It sucks, but it’s in our strategic interest to back Israel. Once this conflict is over, then cut back the arms or make more arms contingent on better behavior. Do not side with people who murder and steal from their own people.
This says it all!!! - "The Uncommitted Movement was first founded in February as “Listen to Michigan”—named after the state with the largest Arab American population in the country. Layla Elabed, the sister of Michigan Democratic Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib, is campaign manager for the national movement." This IS NOT "Uncommitted", this is "Committed" is the truest sense of the word!
I think the Dems believe that US Jews that have voted Democratic in the past are blind to seeing the anti-semitism from the tiktok radicalized youth. The Dems don't want to acknowledge the stampede of Jews flocking to Trump. The ones like Schumer and Bernie will never change but they are a minority.
In our defense, this seems to have happened really fast, since October 7. I personally didn’t see antisemitism on the left before this. Not that it didn’t exist. Bit there definitely seems to be an “out of the woodwork” aspect to it. Or perhaps October 7 shone a light on what was already there.
More reporting should be done about the stampede of Jews flocking to Trump. I pray it continues.
I find it fascinating and also super manipulative that the media is not reporting this phenomenon. Definitely happening in my traditionally blue state and among me and my traditionally Dem Jewish friends.
interesting observation. The dems are trying to only setup one view of everything and from only one angle. If your view is not in the same alignment the picture is obviously off and very wrong. If they can just keep everyone looking in the right direction for only a few more months they are good. They are obviously in hail-mary mode.
Schumer and Bernie are politicians, bought and paid for. They have not commitment to anyone other than themself