"Berlin was faced with a choice between unleashing the wrath of Putin on neighboring countries or inviting the wrath of Greta Thunberg. They chose Putin." That pretty much sums up the degree of intelligence of the so-called "environmentalists "
I didn’t recognize the authors name but when I saw his book listed, Apocalypse Never, I realized that I had actually listens to a podcast he was a guest on, Quillete, I believe it was called.
Not that long ago I actually thought about trying to track that podcast down so I could find out who the guy was, and now here he is!!
I haven’t read his book, yet, but that podcast did inspire me to learn more. I did eventually read a couple books about nuclear energy and have started researching more and more.
I’m interested in reading his book to see how his views differ from those I’ve already read. Is he a fan of Thorium? We shall see!
And we are just as foolish here. We'd rather stay in bed with Saudi Arabia and get in bed with Venezuela than use our vast resources and revive our nuclear power industry.
The main deficiency in the Trump approach was overly antagonizing allies, treating them as if they're enemies. When in fact, we need to revive and update the Cold War geopolitical structure, fitting energy and economics into it.
Otherwise, Trump policies good. Russia and Iran contained at low cost and low risk, denied a lot of energy income and constrained in how much mischief they could make. A sane policy, as opposed to now: a spreading dumpster fire that threatens everyone, with a doddering non-President in the White House.
I'm sure this is duplicate of others opinions of which I haven't read... but I can get my head around people and leaders that think climate is only a US problem... those that fight for "green" in US, but are fine using oil from other countries. Makes no sense at all. Maybe I'm missing something?
Michael Shellenberger has been a welcome and reliable resource for climate amateurs like me who must engage with postulants and seminarians of the woke church of environmentalism. Everyone should buy and read a copy of "Apocalypse Never". It belongs on the shelf with your other important reference books.
It is my hope that the Ukraine conflict will shock a complacent, idealistic and self-indulgent culture back into reality. Impractical environmental idealism is just one facet of the problem. We should be focused first on the big fundamental issues like land, defense, energy security and national sovereignty. Only if we have those right can we go back to arguing over silly things like pronouns and the proper hierarchy of victims.
1. Wind turbines are ugly and noisy. They also kill lots of birds. And a huge problem of NIMBY. So there's that.
2. Solar is unreliable and batteries to hold the power need to be replaced about every 5 years. Those batteries are costly to make, produce pollution in the process, and need rare minerals to be mined in far away places.
3. Was just in Miami Beach, a place where they use paper straws, but literally everything else was single-use plastics. WTF!
OIL - has a by product - PETROCHEMICALS. Almost all your stuff has this by-product. Plastic-Poly- Jackets, rugs, cars, tents, packaging (food), shoes, hospitals.
Wake up. Honey your life is in jeopardy.
Oil by-products is literally why life span has increased to 100 - people used to die at 60.
Nuclear power is only feasible in the United States because of the Price-Anderson Act, which limits the liability of the nuclear industry to $15 billion. Anything above that gets paid by the taxpayers.
If the nuclear industry had to work on commercial terms, like getting liability insurance for the risk of covering NYC with a radioactive cloud, it wouldn't exist.
Realistic commercial options in the US are gas, oil and hydro.
Correct. We worried about plastic straws while wait what is going on? The house has been burning down, and the us is worried about the installation of a doorbell. All I have heard about with our new administration has been race. Very frightening
I agree with Michael on one thing at least: nuclear energy.
Nuclear power plants have got to be one of the most efficient and practical methods of power production ever invented. Yes the waste is radioactive, and for a long time at that. But when you compare it the the waste and pollution from, say, a coal plant...they aren't even in the same book, much less the same page.
The amount of waste from a nuclear power plant, especially modern ones, is miniscule by almost every metric. And far less than anything else with equal power output. I'd say it's not a super long-term solution for the next millennia, but until something cleaner comes along it's hands-down the best method we got right now.
This never-ending irrational freak-out so many seem to have about nuclear power is past annoying, it's becoming embarrassing. We need more nuclear power plants.
I went to Bosnia in 2001 as a consultant to the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development. In Sarajevo, there was a monument with an "Eternal Flame". However, the flame wasn't burning, because Russia cut off the supply of natural gas to Sarajevo. The Russian government was displeased with the way the Bosnian Muslims were treating the Russians' fellow Orthodox Bosnian Serbs. Winter was coming, and the Bosnian government got Russia's message. The gas supply resumed. Russia held all the cards vis-a-vis Bosnia in 2001, and it holds all the cards against Europe now. It's just a matter of time until Europe folds.
"Berlin was faced with a choice between unleashing the wrath of Putin on neighboring countries or inviting the wrath of Greta Thunberg. They chose Putin." That pretty much sums up the degree of intelligence of the so-called "environmentalists "
I didn’t recognize the authors name but when I saw his book listed, Apocalypse Never, I realized that I had actually listens to a podcast he was a guest on, Quillete, I believe it was called.
Not that long ago I actually thought about trying to track that podcast down so I could find out who the guy was, and now here he is!!
I haven’t read his book, yet, but that podcast did inspire me to learn more. I did eventually read a couple books about nuclear energy and have started researching more and more.
I’m interested in reading his book to see how his views differ from those I’ve already read. Is he a fan of Thorium? We shall see!
And we are just as foolish here. We'd rather stay in bed with Saudi Arabia and get in bed with Venezuela than use our vast resources and revive our nuclear power industry.
More from Doomberg, serious thinking about energy, including absurdity in our current conditions:
https://doomberg.substack.com/p/a-serious-proposal-on-us-energy
The main deficiency in the Trump approach was overly antagonizing allies, treating them as if they're enemies. When in fact, we need to revive and update the Cold War geopolitical structure, fitting energy and economics into it.
Otherwise, Trump policies good. Russia and Iran contained at low cost and low risk, denied a lot of energy income and constrained in how much mischief they could make. A sane policy, as opposed to now: a spreading dumpster fire that threatens everyone, with a doddering non-President in the White House.
US also pulled its support for EastMed Nat Gas pipeline last January.
I always thought Republicans were "evil" for buying oil from Arab lands. Does that mean Democrats are "evil" from buying from Russian lands?
I'm sure this is duplicate of others opinions of which I haven't read... but I can get my head around people and leaders that think climate is only a US problem... those that fight for "green" in US, but are fine using oil from other countries. Makes no sense at all. Maybe I'm missing something?
This is what happens when progressives 🤮🤮🤮 set policy.
Michael Shellenberger has been a welcome and reliable resource for climate amateurs like me who must engage with postulants and seminarians of the woke church of environmentalism. Everyone should buy and read a copy of "Apocalypse Never". It belongs on the shelf with your other important reference books.
It is my hope that the Ukraine conflict will shock a complacent, idealistic and self-indulgent culture back into reality. Impractical environmental idealism is just one facet of the problem. We should be focused first on the big fundamental issues like land, defense, energy security and national sovereignty. Only if we have those right can we go back to arguing over silly things like pronouns and the proper hierarchy of victims.
Oh where to begin...
1. Wind turbines are ugly and noisy. They also kill lots of birds. And a huge problem of NIMBY. So there's that.
2. Solar is unreliable and batteries to hold the power need to be replaced about every 5 years. Those batteries are costly to make, produce pollution in the process, and need rare minerals to be mined in far away places.
3. Was just in Miami Beach, a place where they use paper straws, but literally everything else was single-use plastics. WTF!
Ugh....
ELECTRICITY drives our country. 24/7 Hospitals, manufacturing, heating & electricity.
est.
GAS / LNG - 40%
COAL - 40%
GREEN (hydro, wind, solar) - 6%
NUCLEAR - 14%
OIL - has a by product - PETROCHEMICALS. Almost all your stuff has this by-product. Plastic-Poly- Jackets, rugs, cars, tents, packaging (food), shoes, hospitals.
Wake up. Honey your life is in jeopardy.
Oil by-products is literally why life span has increased to 100 - people used to die at 60.
Nuclear power is only feasible in the United States because of the Price-Anderson Act, which limits the liability of the nuclear industry to $15 billion. Anything above that gets paid by the taxpayers.
If the nuclear industry had to work on commercial terms, like getting liability insurance for the risk of covering NYC with a radioactive cloud, it wouldn't exist.
Realistic commercial options in the US are gas, oil and hydro.
It all goes back to Maurice Strong and the Club of Rome whose agenda was/is to de-industrialize the world. Luddites.
Correct. We worried about plastic straws while wait what is going on? The house has been burning down, and the us is worried about the installation of a doorbell. All I have heard about with our new administration has been race. Very frightening
I agree with Michael on one thing at least: nuclear energy.
Nuclear power plants have got to be one of the most efficient and practical methods of power production ever invented. Yes the waste is radioactive, and for a long time at that. But when you compare it the the waste and pollution from, say, a coal plant...they aren't even in the same book, much less the same page.
The amount of waste from a nuclear power plant, especially modern ones, is miniscule by almost every metric. And far less than anything else with equal power output. I'd say it's not a super long-term solution for the next millennia, but until something cleaner comes along it's hands-down the best method we got right now.
This never-ending irrational freak-out so many seem to have about nuclear power is past annoying, it's becoming embarrassing. We need more nuclear power plants.
I went to Bosnia in 2001 as a consultant to the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development. In Sarajevo, there was a monument with an "Eternal Flame". However, the flame wasn't burning, because Russia cut off the supply of natural gas to Sarajevo. The Russian government was displeased with the way the Bosnian Muslims were treating the Russians' fellow Orthodox Bosnian Serbs. Winter was coming, and the Bosnian government got Russia's message. The gas supply resumed. Russia held all the cards vis-a-vis Bosnia in 2001, and it holds all the cards against Europe now. It's just a matter of time until Europe folds.
Great anecdote.