One of my Jewish friends stated that what is going on now in Israel, but also before Oct 7 throughout the Mideast and Africa, is the failure of the nation-state. He didn't say this, but with what's become so obvious since Oct 7 is that as nation-states fail, ideology arises as the dominant factor that will drive future conflicts includin…
One of my Jewish friends stated that what is going on now in Israel, but also before Oct 7 throughout the Mideast and Africa, is the failure of the nation-state. He didn't say this, but with what's become so obvious since Oct 7 is that as nation-states fail, ideology arises as the dominant factor that will drive future conflicts including civil wars.
Bari, you are right, horrible but necessary to listen to this Honestly podcast. Keep doing what you know needs to be done, and thank you.
Tom, do you mean that Israel, parts of middle east and parts of Africa are failed states or do you mean globally? I think of Israel as more resilient than many other nations, not to diminish the crisis at present.
I found my friend's comment intriguing and thought provoking, so I threw it out here, and frankly your question is making me think thru the implications of his comment.
I don't think Israel is a failed state, but there are certainly numerous failed states throughout the world, mostly in the Middle East (Yemen, Syria, Afghanistan for example) and Africa (Somalia, Sudan, Libya, others). These states can't control their borders or protect their populations - think Boko Haram, Al Qaeda and ISIS affiliates in these regions. Israel wasn't attacked by a nation state, it was attacked by an ideology (indeed, been under attack by that ideology for decades). So maybe it isn't the failure of the nation-state per se but failure of an international order based on respecting individual nation-states? Russia, Iran, China, North Korea and others dictatorships looking to expand their borders via military force or intimidation, while promoting terror organizations that are based on ideology or tribe rather than geography and constitutional history.
Caveat: I'm no geo-political scientist, no background in that at all, but maybe this is thought provoking.
One of my Jewish friends stated that what is going on now in Israel, but also before Oct 7 throughout the Mideast and Africa, is the failure of the nation-state. He didn't say this, but with what's become so obvious since Oct 7 is that as nation-states fail, ideology arises as the dominant factor that will drive future conflicts including civil wars.
Bari, you are right, horrible but necessary to listen to this Honestly podcast. Keep doing what you know needs to be done, and thank you.
Tom, do you mean that Israel, parts of middle east and parts of Africa are failed states or do you mean globally? I think of Israel as more resilient than many other nations, not to diminish the crisis at present.
I found my friend's comment intriguing and thought provoking, so I threw it out here, and frankly your question is making me think thru the implications of his comment.
I don't think Israel is a failed state, but there are certainly numerous failed states throughout the world, mostly in the Middle East (Yemen, Syria, Afghanistan for example) and Africa (Somalia, Sudan, Libya, others). These states can't control their borders or protect their populations - think Boko Haram, Al Qaeda and ISIS affiliates in these regions. Israel wasn't attacked by a nation state, it was attacked by an ideology (indeed, been under attack by that ideology for decades). So maybe it isn't the failure of the nation-state per se but failure of an international order based on respecting individual nation-states? Russia, Iran, China, North Korea and others dictatorships looking to expand their borders via military force or intimidation, while promoting terror organizations that are based on ideology or tribe rather than geography and constitutional history.
Caveat: I'm no geo-political scientist, no background in that at all, but maybe this is thought provoking.