Too easy. Medicare. ItтАЩs unquestionably better than the dreck we get from parasites like United Health Care, Aetna, etc.
Remember the тАШ09 ACA process? A lady told Rep Barney Franks in a town hall to тАЬkeep your damn government hands off my Medicare!тАЭ She loved her health care coverage though she was a bit confused whence it came.
How many people would choose Medicare if it wasn't forced on us?
And how much fraud is involved? You think government is the answer to every issue....it's they who turn it into a problem. If Medicare is so wonderful, how come 220M people have private insurance.
The fact that you think IтАЩm bad news is more than a little way down my priority list. Commenters who disagree with you should go away? Are you auditioning for a role with the Harris administration?
When did I claim government is the answer to everything? ThatтАЩs delusionalтАФon the part of anyone thinking it, and on your part for claiming I think that.
Do you work for a health insurance company? Or own a lot of health insurance stock?
Medicare is only for the elderly. Most or many of your 220 million arenтАЩt eligible for Medicare. I really hope youтАЩre not learning this for the first time.
Do you ever re-read your comments before hitting Post? May want to consider that, it will probably help prevent you from saying things like 220 million have private insurance. Which is completely irrelevant if they arenтАЩt eligible for Medicare.
Guess what? Medicare IS NOT FREE and IT DOES NOT COVER 100%. I am retired on Medicare and it cost me over $450 every month just for myself. What do you think itтАЩs going to cost to cover a family? And who is going to pay for it?
Not much of value is free. Medicare cost you 1.45% of every dollar you earn. Plus the additional fees once on it. ThatтАЩs still a shitload better than letting citizens fend for themselves if they arenтАЩt lucky enough to have it through work. IтАЩm retired and not yet eligible for Medicare. $450 per month? I know a couple hundred million Americans who would take that deal. IтАЩm retired but not yet Medicare eligible. I pay a hell of a lot more than that for our coverage.
As I said that is for one person. It would be $2,000 for a family of four and it does not include vision, dental or drugs. How do you suppose people will be able to afford that? I guess you think itтАЩs perfectly okay for all of us to pay 50-60% of our earnings in taxes to pay for it. I am not prepared at this point in my life to do that. You can volunteer your own taxes.
What kind of a stupid question are you asking? You just finished saying above that there are millions of Americans without health insurance who would love a Medicare "deal". WHO the heck do you think those people are ?
The question responds to your stupid notion of Medicare's cost of "$2,000 for a family of four." (It would actually be $1,800.) Theresa, you are the one who brought up paying for Medicare for a family of four. I suspect it was a slip of the tongue in written words. Because Medicare doesn't cover Mom, Dad, and young Chad and Brittany. Medicare in a household typically covers 2 old people, or 1 person, as in your case. I suppose that if one of a 70- and 72-year-old couple's 93- and 95-year-old parents live with them, it could be 4 people with Medicare, but it would not be a nuclear family as we understand it, would it?
And you've apparently forgotten the ACA debate. So I'll try to go slowly. Remember the proposed "public option?" You could probably look it up. It would have been an option for Americans to opt into a Medicare-like coverage vs. being gouged by health insurance companies. People would have loved to have Medicare's coverage. And to have it for $450 a month in 2024? People would love it! But they were/are not eligible for it, because the health insurance companies made damn sure Senate Finance Chair Max Baucus (D-MT) wouldn't advance a bill out of committee with a public option in it. And Obama and his chief of staff Rahm Emmanuel didn't have the stones to stand up to him.
Also, who TF pays 50-60% of their earnings in federal taxes for Medicare or anything? I'll answer it for you: no one. Where did you pull that one out of?
Oh wow I was off by a whopping $200. Tell me how many families can afford $1,800 a month when they cannot afford it now. What a joke. And BTW Mr. Know it allтАж.two old people pay two premiums not one and two supplemental plan costs and two drug plan costs. You are arrogant and rude and condescending. Let me say that slowly. RUDE
AND IN EUROPE тАЬFREEтАЭ healthcare comes with a HIGH TAX PRICE TAG
But you still haven't explained those odd families with 4 people on Medicare.
OK, I may be arrogant. And when someone says something really dumb (like a family of four being on Medicare), I can at times condescend.
But on rudeness, I respond in kind. This happens a lot on TFP comments. When someone realizes their argument went flat long ago, they break out the insults. If it wasn't sad, it'd be amusing.
Name one enterprise the government runs that is more efficient than private sector?
The DMV? The Post Office? How many road workers does it take to fill a pothole?
You really want the government in charge of the most important service to you and your family? Think hard before you answer.......
Too easy. Medicare. ItтАЩs unquestionably better than the dreck we get from parasites like United Health Care, Aetna, etc.
Remember the тАШ09 ACA process? A lady told Rep Barney Franks in a town hall to тАЬkeep your damn government hands off my Medicare!тАЭ She loved her health care coverage though she was a bit confused whence it came.
How many people would choose Medicare if it wasn't forced on us?
And how much fraud is involved? You think government is the answer to every issue....it's they who turn it into a problem. If Medicare is so wonderful, how come 220M people have private insurance.
You should go away Butt.....you're real bad news.
The fact that you think IтАЩm bad news is more than a little way down my priority list. Commenters who disagree with you should go away? Are you auditioning for a role with the Harris administration?
When did I claim government is the answer to everything? ThatтАЩs delusionalтАФon the part of anyone thinking it, and on your part for claiming I think that.
Do you work for a health insurance company? Or own a lot of health insurance stock?
Medicare is only for the elderly. Most or many of your 220 million arenтАЩt eligible for Medicare. I really hope youтАЩre not learning this for the first time.
Do you ever re-read your comments before hitting Post? May want to consider that, it will probably help prevent you from saying things like 220 million have private insurance. Which is completely irrelevant if they arenтАЩt eligible for Medicare.
Medicare does not cover 100% of insurance costs sh*t for brains.
Go away
And no one said it did, dumbass.
You want to tell me about the 220 million people who donтАЩt want Medicare, even though theyтАЩre not eligible for it, one more time?
Guess what? Medicare IS NOT FREE and IT DOES NOT COVER 100%. I am retired on Medicare and it cost me over $450 every month just for myself. What do you think itтАЩs going to cost to cover a family? And who is going to pay for it?
Not much of value is free. Medicare cost you 1.45% of every dollar you earn. Plus the additional fees once on it. ThatтАЩs still a shitload better than letting citizens fend for themselves if they arenтАЩt lucky enough to have it through work. IтАЩm retired and not yet eligible for Medicare. $450 per month? I know a couple hundred million Americans who would take that deal. IтАЩm retired but not yet Medicare eligible. I pay a hell of a lot more than that for our coverage.
As I said that is for one person. It would be $2,000 for a family of four and it does not include vision, dental or drugs. How do you suppose people will be able to afford that? I guess you think itтАЩs perfectly okay for all of us to pay 50-60% of our earnings in taxes to pay for it. I am not prepared at this point in my life to do that. You can volunteer your own taxes.
What kind of family has 4 people on Medicare?
What kind of a stupid question are you asking? You just finished saying above that there are millions of Americans without health insurance who would love a Medicare "deal". WHO the heck do you think those people are ?
The question responds to your stupid notion of Medicare's cost of "$2,000 for a family of four." (It would actually be $1,800.) Theresa, you are the one who brought up paying for Medicare for a family of four. I suspect it was a slip of the tongue in written words. Because Medicare doesn't cover Mom, Dad, and young Chad and Brittany. Medicare in a household typically covers 2 old people, or 1 person, as in your case. I suppose that if one of a 70- and 72-year-old couple's 93- and 95-year-old parents live with them, it could be 4 people with Medicare, but it would not be a nuclear family as we understand it, would it?
And you've apparently forgotten the ACA debate. So I'll try to go slowly. Remember the proposed "public option?" You could probably look it up. It would have been an option for Americans to opt into a Medicare-like coverage vs. being gouged by health insurance companies. People would have loved to have Medicare's coverage. And to have it for $450 a month in 2024? People would love it! But they were/are not eligible for it, because the health insurance companies made damn sure Senate Finance Chair Max Baucus (D-MT) wouldn't advance a bill out of committee with a public option in it. And Obama and his chief of staff Rahm Emmanuel didn't have the stones to stand up to him.
Also, who TF pays 50-60% of their earnings in federal taxes for Medicare or anything? I'll answer it for you: no one. Where did you pull that one out of?
Oh wow I was off by a whopping $200. Tell me how many families can afford $1,800 a month when they cannot afford it now. What a joke. And BTW Mr. Know it allтАж.two old people pay two premiums not one and two supplemental plan costs and two drug plan costs. You are arrogant and rude and condescending. Let me say that slowly. RUDE
AND IN EUROPE тАЬFREEтАЭ healthcare comes with a HIGH TAX PRICE TAG
But you still haven't explained those odd families with 4 people on Medicare.
OK, I may be arrogant. And when someone says something really dumb (like a family of four being on Medicare), I can at times condescend.
But on rudeness, I respond in kind. This happens a lot on TFP comments. When someone realizes their argument went flat long ago, they break out the insults. If it wasn't sad, it'd be amusing.