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If you listen to him, including today on the Ezra Klein show, he is absolutely uninterested in understanding the causes for the current conditions Palestinians are forced to live under. He says so on several occasions. He sees them as oppressed, akin to blacks in the Jim Crow south, therefore any agency on their behalf is not relevant to the conversation. This is an utterly simplistic argument and had it come from some leftist activist wrapped in a keffiyeh, we would have rightly dismissed it as such. Dokoupil said so much in his interview.

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