I grew up in a democratic house. My Grandmother was an Irish catholic Kennedy dem. But, over the last 10 yrs+ I feel the party has moved away from me and towards ID politics.
I felt this was a bad phosphy and a bad strategy because it segregates us into our own tribe. And look at where it has lead us. I feel a backlash against all this nonsense about defund the police and call me by a new pronoun. What a bunch of self centered nitwits
I’ll stay with the Dems because they are the only party that is aware of the constitution.
I'm a rare libertarian / right Jew and have been for a long time. Most of my friends, needless to say, are not. I tend to avoid politics and never post anything political because what's the point.
Since 10/7 I've been posting a series of columns, videos, tweets, etc. on FB all along the lines of The Day the Delusions Died (the best article written so far, BTW). No commentary from me, like "this article explains it all" ... just the content.
Zero response from any of my hundreds of lefty Jewish friends.
My charitable opinion is that they're in shock, finally confronting a world view that has betrayed them. My less than charitable opinion is that they're laying low until this goes away so they can freely call Trump a Nazi again.
The ultimate irony, of course, is that all the people they've been calling Nazis turned out to be the good guys.
To all of you who have looked away all these years - and yes, you Bari - Hamas said (brutally, inhumanely, criminally - “Look at us (Palestinians), we never went away and you cannot ignore us.” This will never be resolved if you all talk only of Hamas’s crimes. Of course they are! But then, ask how did you get here? And now it becomes uncomfortable doesn’t it, because it means condoning the settlers, silencing the protests against forced evictions if arabs who have lived for centuries in East Jerusalem. No one really has clean hands here, and the sooner you all own up to it and get your own houses in order, the sooner the world has a chance to try to fix this.
My heart bleeds for the Israelis on the kibbutzim next to Gaza; they were living the exemplary Jewish life and trying to be good neighbours to the Gazans. Their fellow Jews on the West Bank are fanatics pursuing their messianic dream of own Judea and samaria, and have murdered 69 Palestinians in the last 3 months. Hamas is an abomination; the settlers too, are an abomination and Bibi is in their pocket, reliant on their votes in order to stay out of jail. And so, here we are: entirely innocent Israelis and Gazans dying because of fanaticism by extremists on both sides and by the cynicism of one man. I cry for all the innocents...
Change in discussion. My pro-Israeli friends/family are the same. My woke friends have never responded when I speak about Israel. I suspect they consider me an “enemy informant” in that category. I have become less patient with their silence.
My two best men at my wedding (I couldn't choose between them and they joked it might need two to drag me to the altar) were both Jewish. I have never lost my appreciation of their friendship and their decency, and even though we have thousands of miles between us this last 40 years. We keep in touch and they supported me well though chemo and a bone marrow transplant with daily video chats. I wish I could more than just sign the October Declaration (all UK citizens can and should do so, wherever they live) and continue to offer my moral support. !תחי ישראל
I sounded the alarm on left-identitarianism almost a decade ago, but I knew wokeness was doomed as soon as it failed to establish universal control of expression. As I saw it, the wave broke about a year and a half ago. However it is not going to go away overnight, I suspect we will be fighting these battles for several years. Further, I don't see a lot of people clearly addressing the root issue of entrenched elite interests that are situated and motivated to exert coercive control over the public. Wokeness was, I think, epiphenomenal, a stalking horse for ideological coalitions adapted to justify totalitarianism.
Some of my younger friends, most of whom went into the trades rather than college, have always been a bit more conservative than others their age but now they’re taking a greater interest on politics overall, reading more, asking more questions. Also lots of talk among all of us about getting more time in the gun range and a real concern about the southern border and when, not it, the terror attack will hit here. A lot of my liberal co workers have been very very quiet.
There are two measures of the political realignment:
1. how foolishly arrogant are those who openly celebrate rape, pogrom, and ransom as weapons of terrorist politics
2. how foolishly arrogant are those who required an orgy of rape, pogrom, and ransom to accept that, e.g., "secure borders", "federal debt management", and "strong international negotiations for both peace and trade" are not terrorist politics
I’ve yet to see any corroboration that Hamas beheaded babies. I’m not looking for an argument; I’m looking for corroboration from credible and independent sources. Please share if you have it.
I am a former elected official (county school board), and a former member of my Democratic Party Central Committee. As of this eye-opening month I am now also a former Democrat. Shocked to find I am more appalled by the base of the Democratic Party than the base of the Republican. Not entirely comfortable with either, frankly, but I intend to vote in the Republican primary next year.
As tragic as the events of October 7th were, it has effectively ‘drained the swamp’ in MSM and the left in general. Case in point: the absolute journalistic failure of the NYT to report with anything even remotely accurate the ‘hospital bombing’ in Gaza just reinforced my lack of faith in that particular bastion of progressive ideals. NYT seems to be nothing more than a propaganda tool for Hamas.
This is hard to say, but I no longer believe that a two state solution is viable. Maybe it never has been. After spending many hours over the past week really trying to understand the history of the people and the region, I cannot see how this will end in a two state solution. I used to think I really had no dog in this fight, but that was just being short sighted. The darker forces in this world will always want more. I stand vocally with the Jewish people.
The base question is whether this realignment from woke left to more centrist liberalism will include the basic energy questions which allow Iran to fund terrorists. Are we willing to ignore the pseudo science of climate catastrophe and drill for oil and natural gas? Because what allows Iran the budget to make trouble, and Putin as well, is high fossil fuel prices. Biden's promise to eliminate fossil fuels by 2035, and his policies in service of this goal, is what has caused high oil prices. We have to restore a predictable regulatory environment that allows maximum oil and natural gas production in North America. Without a drill, baby, drill policy in the US, chronic terrorism andd war in the Middle East is unavoidable.
While I see people of the Left supporting Israel I do not see them changing politically. They feel the President has been very strong in his support for Israel but they don't assign any blame to Obama or Biden how their support of Iran has helped contribute to this. And I've seen very little of people from the Left changing their opinion on topics not directly related like Immigration. I do see some recognition that the Far Left is no friend of the Jews. That is until Trump takes center stage and then it won't matter. The most important thing to them is stopping Trump. Even if they have to throw themselves on the fire to make it bigger to engulf him.
I grew up in a democratic house. My Grandmother was an Irish catholic Kennedy dem. But, over the last 10 yrs+ I feel the party has moved away from me and towards ID politics.
I felt this was a bad phosphy and a bad strategy because it segregates us into our own tribe. And look at where it has lead us. I feel a backlash against all this nonsense about defund the police and call me by a new pronoun. What a bunch of self centered nitwits
I’ll stay with the Dems because they are the only party that is aware of the constitution.
I'm a rare libertarian / right Jew and have been for a long time. Most of my friends, needless to say, are not. I tend to avoid politics and never post anything political because what's the point.
Since 10/7 I've been posting a series of columns, videos, tweets, etc. on FB all along the lines of The Day the Delusions Died (the best article written so far, BTW). No commentary from me, like "this article explains it all" ... just the content.
Zero response from any of my hundreds of lefty Jewish friends.
My charitable opinion is that they're in shock, finally confronting a world view that has betrayed them. My less than charitable opinion is that they're laying low until this goes away so they can freely call Trump a Nazi again.
The ultimate irony, of course, is that all the people they've been calling Nazis turned out to be the good guys.
The advice of this Irish Catholic US veteran to the IDF: Kill everything that moves downrange, and take no prisoners.
To all of you who have looked away all these years - and yes, you Bari - Hamas said (brutally, inhumanely, criminally - “Look at us (Palestinians), we never went away and you cannot ignore us.” This will never be resolved if you all talk only of Hamas’s crimes. Of course they are! But then, ask how did you get here? And now it becomes uncomfortable doesn’t it, because it means condoning the settlers, silencing the protests against forced evictions if arabs who have lived for centuries in East Jerusalem. No one really has clean hands here, and the sooner you all own up to it and get your own houses in order, the sooner the world has a chance to try to fix this.
My heart bleeds for the Israelis on the kibbutzim next to Gaza; they were living the exemplary Jewish life and trying to be good neighbours to the Gazans. Their fellow Jews on the West Bank are fanatics pursuing their messianic dream of own Judea and samaria, and have murdered 69 Palestinians in the last 3 months. Hamas is an abomination; the settlers too, are an abomination and Bibi is in their pocket, reliant on their votes in order to stay out of jail. And so, here we are: entirely innocent Israelis and Gazans dying because of fanaticism by extremists on both sides and by the cynicism of one man. I cry for all the innocents...
Change in discussion. My pro-Israeli friends/family are the same. My woke friends have never responded when I speak about Israel. I suspect they consider me an “enemy informant” in that category. I have become less patient with their silence.
9/11 was a ideological religious attack on Western civilization, specifically the USA.
10/7 was a ideological barbaric attack on basic human dignity, specifically the Jews.
9/11 was pure evil.
10/7 was, if possible, worse.
My two best men at my wedding (I couldn't choose between them and they joked it might need two to drag me to the altar) were both Jewish. I have never lost my appreciation of their friendship and their decency, and even though we have thousands of miles between us this last 40 years. We keep in touch and they supported me well though chemo and a bone marrow transplant with daily video chats. I wish I could more than just sign the October Declaration (all UK citizens can and should do so, wherever they live) and continue to offer my moral support. !תחי ישראל
I sounded the alarm on left-identitarianism almost a decade ago, but I knew wokeness was doomed as soon as it failed to establish universal control of expression. As I saw it, the wave broke about a year and a half ago. However it is not going to go away overnight, I suspect we will be fighting these battles for several years. Further, I don't see a lot of people clearly addressing the root issue of entrenched elite interests that are situated and motivated to exert coercive control over the public. Wokeness was, I think, epiphenomenal, a stalking horse for ideological coalitions adapted to justify totalitarianism.
Some of my younger friends, most of whom went into the trades rather than college, have always been a bit more conservative than others their age but now they’re taking a greater interest on politics overall, reading more, asking more questions. Also lots of talk among all of us about getting more time in the gun range and a real concern about the southern border and when, not it, the terror attack will hit here. A lot of my liberal co workers have been very very quiet.
There are two measures of the political realignment:
1. how foolishly arrogant are those who openly celebrate rape, pogrom, and ransom as weapons of terrorist politics
2. how foolishly arrogant are those who required an orgy of rape, pogrom, and ransom to accept that, e.g., "secure borders", "federal debt management", and "strong international negotiations for both peace and trade" are not terrorist politics
I’ve yet to see any corroboration that Hamas beheaded babies. I’m not looking for an argument; I’m looking for corroboration from credible and independent sources. Please share if you have it.
I am a former elected official (county school board), and a former member of my Democratic Party Central Committee. As of this eye-opening month I am now also a former Democrat. Shocked to find I am more appalled by the base of the Democratic Party than the base of the Republican. Not entirely comfortable with either, frankly, but I intend to vote in the Republican primary next year.
Kinda the same (without the official party work), and I wish we could get a substantial enough block of us to get anyone other than Trump nominated!
As tragic as the events of October 7th were, it has effectively ‘drained the swamp’ in MSM and the left in general. Case in point: the absolute journalistic failure of the NYT to report with anything even remotely accurate the ‘hospital bombing’ in Gaza just reinforced my lack of faith in that particular bastion of progressive ideals. NYT seems to be nothing more than a propaganda tool for Hamas.
Hello all,
This is hard to say, but I no longer believe that a two state solution is viable. Maybe it never has been. After spending many hours over the past week really trying to understand the history of the people and the region, I cannot see how this will end in a two state solution. I used to think I really had no dog in this fight, but that was just being short sighted. The darker forces in this world will always want more. I stand vocally with the Jewish people.
The base question is whether this realignment from woke left to more centrist liberalism will include the basic energy questions which allow Iran to fund terrorists. Are we willing to ignore the pseudo science of climate catastrophe and drill for oil and natural gas? Because what allows Iran the budget to make trouble, and Putin as well, is high fossil fuel prices. Biden's promise to eliminate fossil fuels by 2035, and his policies in service of this goal, is what has caused high oil prices. We have to restore a predictable regulatory environment that allows maximum oil and natural gas production in North America. Without a drill, baby, drill policy in the US, chronic terrorism andd war in the Middle East is unavoidable.
While I see people of the Left supporting Israel I do not see them changing politically. They feel the President has been very strong in his support for Israel but they don't assign any blame to Obama or Biden how their support of Iran has helped contribute to this. And I've seen very little of people from the Left changing their opinion on topics not directly related like Immigration. I do see some recognition that the Far Left is no friend of the Jews. That is until Trump takes center stage and then it won't matter. The most important thing to them is stopping Trump. Even if they have to throw themselves on the fire to make it bigger to engulf him.