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I really enjoyed your podcast episode Nellie. I want to comment on the fear of parents and the “groomer” term. I think you get it from what I understood you to say. Parents have lost trust in SOME teachers - not all. We have watched as unions fought to keep children out of school when it was not in their best interest. We have had our children - young children - shamed by some teachers if their mask creeps down. And now we are basically shocked at the vehemence with which it seems SOME teachers feel like they need to discuss sexual orientation with our 6 year olds. This is not about a teacher saying something about their spouse and that didn’t seem to even be the focus of the bill. it’s about telling a 6 year old they can be either gender and confusing them with things that are not even on their radar yet. LET. THEM. PLAY. They are kids. And if the boys want to play with dolls and the girls want to play with excavators - who cares? We don’t. The majority of parents don’t. We just want our kids to be able to go to school and feel happy and laugh and learn about interacting with friends because they have not gotten to do much of that in the last 2 years. The talk shifts to the word “groomer” because there are very vocal teachers and people on platforms like tik tok that openly talk about how they teach about sexual orientation in pre-school. PRE-SCHOOL- my kids thought they were cats in preschool half the time. Of course this is not all teachers - but who do we trust? We do not hate anyone. We don’t hate gay people-and we do not hate trans people even if we don’t think transwomen should compete against biological women. We JUST care about our children. I have 6 year B/G twins. They have played “Frozen” to the point where my son refused to do it anymore because he always had to be Ana🤣🤣 They also play kickball and wrestle and house and Barbies and Pokémon. They do not think about these games as anything relating to gender. They are just PLAYING. As children should be doing. Kids are so loving- If their teacher is gay- it doesn’t matter to their students whether they know about it or not. What matters is that their teacher cheers them on, teaches them in a loving, patient and fun manner - and believes in their abilities. For this/ kids love them. Our children do not need to be pawns in a culture war. They have already spent 2 years protecting adults- so they don’t need to validate their teachers sexuality or “understand” their teachers family dynamics as long as they treat their teacher with respect and kindness. And I don’t believe at all you think that they do, but there are whackadoodle people online that are reacting in such a deranged manner about this bill and how it affects them, parents cannot understand it🤷🏻‍♀️ The obsession with the sexualization of kindergarteners is baffling. It’s like their lives will fall apart if a 6 year old doesn’t know if they are pansexual. And we cannot jput our trust in all the teachers to do the right thing, the thing best for kids, though 99% of them do I’m sure. Let children be children, teach them about reading and poems and animals and counting - but don’t confuse them or introduce concepts to them that are so far from what they are thinking about right now. They are learning and exploring how to interact with peers and just get along/ share, you know, basic social skills. Taking turns. Being kind. Listening. I’m sorry- very sorry - if this brings out people that are truly hateful. But when there are a loud group of people / teachers screaming they WILL teach gender identity anyway on platforms such as tik tok , while simultaneously TV anchors on CNN and other networks deny it happens at all - we are stuck in the middle. So unfortunately- we NEED a bill. Maybe a more clearly written one, but we need a law. The children’s well- being should be paramount in everyone’s mind, Not the adults. We as parents can teach our children to love and respect all people - and we can go into further detail when it’s age appropriate or if a question comes up. But the trust is broken - and honestly 99% of parents do not care what teachers do in their private lives as long as they are good people and good teachers. But we do care what is introduced to our children by adults. and at very young ages, because A. Adults shouldn’t needs children to validate their choices or B. They are willing to use kids as political pawns. We are charged as parents with putting the needs of our children before anything else. Teachers have long been our partners in this endeavor- but the trust is completely eroded. So we need assurance. I wish you much success with your podcast Nellie- you have great balanced perspective and I learn about my own biases through journalists such as yourself. I know when I get it wrong - I learn. But when parents backs are against the wall- and their child might be hurt - normally centric sane people will use words like “groomer” to be clear. And to be honest - we get called some pretty hard core names for this stance. And told we will cause trans kids to die. So we are killers I guess. It’s ashamed that kids are stuck in the middle. Luckily as long as they can play and learn and grow in an age appropriate school environment- they will play their gender neutral games- heck they are even cats sometimes or super heroes or Pokémon trainers- they will play and discover and grow while blissfully unaware of the of the adults squabbling around them. Have a great night/ wishing you continued success and love in your life❤️

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