America is already beholden to China for antibiotics, lithium batteries, and 5G equipment. Now they are cornering the market on an important technology used in self-driving vehicles.
The main reason the US government does nothing about these dependencies is that US corporations are now heavily dependent on Chinese suppliers and have essentially given away their IP to China (or looked away when it was stolen). Why? Because in the 1990s, the heyday of globalization, they became mesmerized by the false promise of what I call the "2 billion Q-tips theory" -- that in exchange for giving away the store, they would gain unlimited access to an exploding Chinese consumer market ... except that market and that opportunity never materialized. Chinese policy is not built around consumer welfare or free trade. Its massive trade surpluses are strategically impounded by the PBoC and used to buy foreign assets in dollars -- not passed on as productivity-driven wage increases to workers. If you know your economic history, it's mercantilism all over again, on the high-tech frontier. Japan did something sort of like this in the 1970s and 80s, but on a smaller scale, plus it has not been a strategic adversary since 1945. The damage was real, but purely economic. And because Japan is a developed country, the competition could never be called radically unfair -- it has roughly the same cost and regulatory structure we do. Not so in China, a police-state dictatorship with limited regard for its workers or the environment or anything else in its way.
By the way......how many spy agencies does the US government employ and how many of them are mostly active abroad? How many of them spy on US citizens?
I'm not trying to justify any spy operation by China, but I believe Americans should start at home with complaining about spies sticking their noses into anything, that clearly isn't their business.
When will the government types realize that the goal of China is to subjugate the rest of the world? They are unethical, and feel that they can purloin our intellectual property because to steal from the West is not a dishonorable thing.They appear to be the most unscrupulous entity in the world, ever!
For our defense department to donate money to China for Lie-dar(a more meaningful spelling) equipment is insanity on the face of it. It's a good thing that humans have only two arms, so that the Chinese "diplomats" have only one hand to use to plunge a knife into our backs while shaking our stupid naive hands with the other. Unless, of course, they have stolen our transplant technology.
When will we realize that they are not our friends, and that they need us more than we need them?
It boggles my mind that our stupid politicians are allowing China to buy buildings, land, farms etc knowing full well that they spy. It infuriates me that so many stupid companies continue to do business with China. IT SEEMS THEY ARE ALL HELL BENT ON DESTROYING OUR COUNTRY.
Everything China makes is stolen from us. We design and create it, they spy and steal it.
Wall ST has been funding Americas destruction via funding CCP military for decades &continues to do so. Using Americans’ 401ks & pension funds. They use your money to fund CCP, ESG (BLM, Trans, CRT, left wing agenda).
They use your retirement money to harm you.
Some congressmen are doing the right thing & trying to ban Wall ST’s fundraising for terrorism. Prohibiting Wall ST investment of Americas destruction. We should vote for them. Vote out those who are paid off by Wall St.
I converted my and husbands 401ks to 100% Treasury bonds for now. I am boycotting Wall St and all stocks until then.
"But China is a country with a law that requires organizations and citizens to 'support, assist, and cooperate with the state intelligence work.'”
Hah, they don't need no stinking' law. This is China, a place where the culture for decades, for centuries, has been OK with stealing the property of others, particularly intellectual property. It is embedded in Chinese mainstream culture. Ethnic Chinese business owners in places like Vietnam, Singapore, and the rest of S.E. Asia are known a "sharp" practitioners. Untrustworthy business folks.
Does that sound racist, discriminatory? Who cares; it is true. Time for other cultures to wake up to the fact that China has a thieving culture. And it does not share "Western" value systems. Anything goes for China to promote itself.
Another reason for the prolifiration of Chinese products on the American market is corruptability of our politicians and CEOs. They are easily bought to ignore a threats, mostly known to them, with the hope that by the time the threats materialize or backfire, they will be on to a new "earning" opportunity.
Most do. Check your manual. They're there so people can use them like with a computer, when gaming, etc. The thing is, they're much easier to hack (or at least used to be) than a computer or smart phone. The same goes for pretty much anything else on the "Internet of Things." I read that the cameras in refrigerators (!) have been used to case homes for burglaries. I also read recently that those doorbell cameras, connected to the internet, can be hacked and become a security risk rather than benefit.
Exactly! We never needed them, but I can understand why/how some people do. People just need to be aware of the dangers of anything networked online so that they can make informed decisions about whether the risk is worthwhile. People have nanny-cams so that they can check up on their babysitters, but is your babysitter really untrustworthy enough to open the risk of the nanny-cam being hacked and strangers peering into your child's room, or anywhere else in your house? The same goes for the connected doorbell cameras. Maybe it is for some. I decided against it because of the hacking issue. And I can't imagine how the occasional, minor convenience of a camera on a refrigerator is worth the risk to anyone. Alexa? Someone gave my wife an Alexa for a gift, but since I don't trust Alexa not to be hacked, it's not connected to the internet and Alexa's sole job is turning a lamp on and off.
The same goes for the tracking apps on cell phones. My friends love theirs and are always checking where their kids are. I want my kids (about the same ages) to be responsible, but I don't want them acclimated to being surveilled at all times, even by their parents. I asked them what if the kids left their phones at home to avoid being tracked, which I certainly would have done as a teenager. They just laughed and said there's no way their daughter would EVER leave the house without her phone; she just can't imagine being separated from it. I certainly don't want anyone tracking my movements, in real time or otherwise, regardless of whether I'm doing anything I shouldn't be.
Spot on. My friends from Central Texas have a son that goes to school in Hawaii. Which they are thrilled about. The whole family tracks each other on the phone apps. Last week he was out in his small fishing boat and wax out of contact for 3 hours. His mom called the coast guard. He had left the phone in his little boat and ju.ped on a bigger boat. Three hours. 22 years old.
That just seems crazy to me that anyone would be comfortable being tracked like that. Maybe it's just me? I know that from the time I was turned loose to transport myself by bicycle, I relished the freedom of nobody knowing where is was as I rolled down country roads miles from home. In my 20s, I got the same feeling of freedom making a solo road trip, taking the back roads instead of the interstate.
"Hey Siri...show me an article that underpins the notion that our U.S.A. political representatives could care less about the survivability, sovereignty, prosperity of its' citizens AND only about themselves." **Let me look for you, here I found an INCREDIBLE news outlet that does care about the citizens you reference and happen to just have posted an article that underpins this**
"Thanks, now pass along the message that your recent advertisement was cringe and that your creators are beholden to those in the article you just suggested"
The main reason the US government does nothing about these dependencies is that US corporations are now heavily dependent on Chinese suppliers and have essentially given away their IP to China (or looked away when it was stolen). Why? Because in the 1990s, the heyday of globalization, they became mesmerized by the false promise of what I call the "2 billion Q-tips theory" -- that in exchange for giving away the store, they would gain unlimited access to an exploding Chinese consumer market ... except that market and that opportunity never materialized. Chinese policy is not built around consumer welfare or free trade. Its massive trade surpluses are strategically impounded by the PBoC and used to buy foreign assets in dollars -- not passed on as productivity-driven wage increases to workers. If you know your economic history, it's mercantilism all over again, on the high-tech frontier. Japan did something sort of like this in the 1970s and 80s, but on a smaller scale, plus it has not been a strategic adversary since 1945. The damage was real, but purely economic. And because Japan is a developed country, the competition could never be called radically unfair -- it has roughly the same cost and regulatory structure we do. Not so in China, a police-state dictatorship with limited regard for its workers or the environment or anything else in its way.
By the way......how many spy agencies does the US government employ and how many of them are mostly active abroad? How many of them spy on US citizens?
I'm not trying to justify any spy operation by China, but I believe Americans should start at home with complaining about spies sticking their noses into anything, that clearly isn't their business.
It’s as if we are begging them to take advantage of us. How can this be any fun for them?! We make it too easy...
Hey Gang, remember the garbage that Yan Shen was posting yesterday about how America was racist and Commie China was a paragon of diversity?
Well take a look at this:
https://www.eurasiantimes.com/china-claims-minority-population-growing-at-fastest-pace/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
Seem like Shanghai Shen is playing fast and loose with the facts for his totalitarian masters.
Not going to read an article about this anywhere else. Well done.
When will the government types realize that the goal of China is to subjugate the rest of the world? They are unethical, and feel that they can purloin our intellectual property because to steal from the West is not a dishonorable thing.They appear to be the most unscrupulous entity in the world, ever!
For our defense department to donate money to China for Lie-dar(a more meaningful spelling) equipment is insanity on the face of it. It's a good thing that humans have only two arms, so that the Chinese "diplomats" have only one hand to use to plunge a knife into our backs while shaking our stupid naive hands with the other. Unless, of course, they have stolen our transplant technology.
When will we realize that they are not our friends, and that they need us more than we need them?
"Yet vigilance is precisely what appears to be missing, as America increasingly uses Hesai’s LIDAR. This includes the Department of Defense."
Ahem, when Rome outsourced their border defenses...
It boggles my mind that our stupid politicians are allowing China to buy buildings, land, farms etc knowing full well that they spy. It infuriates me that so many stupid companies continue to do business with China. IT SEEMS THEY ARE ALL HELL BENT ON DESTROYING OUR COUNTRY.
Everything China makes is stolen from us. We design and create it, they spy and steal it.
Wall ST has been funding Americas destruction via funding CCP military for decades &continues to do so. Using Americans’ 401ks & pension funds. They use your money to fund CCP, ESG (BLM, Trans, CRT, left wing agenda).
They use your retirement money to harm you.
Some congressmen are doing the right thing & trying to ban Wall ST’s fundraising for terrorism. Prohibiting Wall ST investment of Americas destruction. We should vote for them. Vote out those who are paid off by Wall St.
I converted my and husbands 401ks to 100% Treasury bonds for now. I am boycotting Wall St and all stocks until then.
The focus needs to be us independence. That should be point one of a presidential platform.
"But China is a country with a law that requires organizations and citizens to 'support, assist, and cooperate with the state intelligence work.'”
Hah, they don't need no stinking' law. This is China, a place where the culture for decades, for centuries, has been OK with stealing the property of others, particularly intellectual property. It is embedded in Chinese mainstream culture. Ethnic Chinese business owners in places like Vietnam, Singapore, and the rest of S.E. Asia are known a "sharp" practitioners. Untrustworthy business folks.
Does that sound racist, discriminatory? Who cares; it is true. Time for other cultures to wake up to the fact that China has a thieving culture. And it does not share "Western" value systems. Anything goes for China to promote itself.
Another reason for the prolifiration of Chinese products on the American market is corruptability of our politicians and CEOs. They are easily bought to ignore a threats, mostly known to them, with the hope that by the time the threats materialize or backfire, they will be on to a new "earning" opportunity.
Most do. Check your manual. They're there so people can use them like with a computer, when gaming, etc. The thing is, they're much easier to hack (or at least used to be) than a computer or smart phone. The same goes for pretty much anything else on the "Internet of Things." I read that the cameras in refrigerators (!) have been used to case homes for burglaries. I also read recently that those doorbell cameras, connected to the internet, can be hacked and become a security risk rather than benefit.
Baby monitors too.
Exactly! We never needed them, but I can understand why/how some people do. People just need to be aware of the dangers of anything networked online so that they can make informed decisions about whether the risk is worthwhile. People have nanny-cams so that they can check up on their babysitters, but is your babysitter really untrustworthy enough to open the risk of the nanny-cam being hacked and strangers peering into your child's room, or anywhere else in your house? The same goes for the connected doorbell cameras. Maybe it is for some. I decided against it because of the hacking issue. And I can't imagine how the occasional, minor convenience of a camera on a refrigerator is worth the risk to anyone. Alexa? Someone gave my wife an Alexa for a gift, but since I don't trust Alexa not to be hacked, it's not connected to the internet and Alexa's sole job is turning a lamp on and off.
The same goes for the tracking apps on cell phones. My friends love theirs and are always checking where their kids are. I want my kids (about the same ages) to be responsible, but I don't want them acclimated to being surveilled at all times, even by their parents. I asked them what if the kids left their phones at home to avoid being tracked, which I certainly would have done as a teenager. They just laughed and said there's no way their daughter would EVER leave the house without her phone; she just can't imagine being separated from it. I certainly don't want anyone tracking my movements, in real time or otherwise, regardless of whether I'm doing anything I shouldn't be.
Spot on. My friends from Central Texas have a son that goes to school in Hawaii. Which they are thrilled about. The whole family tracks each other on the phone apps. Last week he was out in his small fishing boat and wax out of contact for 3 hours. His mom called the coast guard. He had left the phone in his little boat and ju.ped on a bigger boat. Three hours. 22 years old.
That just seems crazy to me that anyone would be comfortable being tracked like that. Maybe it's just me? I know that from the time I was turned loose to transport myself by bicycle, I relished the freedom of nobody knowing where is was as I rolled down country roads miles from home. In my 20s, I got the same feeling of freedom making a solo road trip, taking the back roads instead of the interstate.
Me too. Isn't that what growing up means?
Oh no! What will we do! We MUST have self-driving vehicles! It's the key to the future!
Wait...what were self driving vehicles going to do for us again?
Now do a story on the US government's own spying panopticon. But when we do it, it's righteous, or something.
https://theintercept.com/2018/06/25/att-internet-nsa-spy-hubs/
It is not and I for one welcome the discussion.
"Hey Siri...show me an article that underpins the notion that our U.S.A. political representatives could care less about the survivability, sovereignty, prosperity of its' citizens AND only about themselves." **Let me look for you, here I found an INCREDIBLE news outlet that does care about the citizens you reference and happen to just have posted an article that underpins this**
"Thanks, now pass along the message that your recent advertisement was cringe and that your creators are beholden to those in the article you just suggested"