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“…Mexico’s Sinaloa drug cartel, which does not practice Diversity, Equity and Inclusion in its hiring practices….”

Best line in the whole essay.

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While Cartels may not officially practice DEI they do support left wing socialist causes and NeoMarxist orgs "Justicia Social" in Mexico.

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I'm sure they do. Easier to keep people in line that way. They themselves, I assure you, are not Marxists in any meaningful sense of the word.

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No socialist movement or country ever meaningfully resembles the utopian vision of what true socialism is supposed to be. It is always led by thugs and Marx was merely a bigoted thug as well. All these variants are merely ideological slogans used to acquire power.

Cartels are "sindicatos" and much of Mexico is syndicalist, which is not so distinct from socialism. Cartels control the government in about 9 Mexican States. The line between syndicates and governement is similarly blurred in states uncontrolled by Cartels. Similar to Mussolini's Fascism but without a Nationalist glue.

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We're on the same page here.

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Good so if the Cartels control the goverment then Social Justice movements is just a way for Cartels to expand government power. It is no coincidance the Social Justice movements in Mexico are opposed to trade blocs, which have their own international courts. Cartels cannot easily control NAFTA companies.

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True. Do you think concepts like diversity, Equity, Inclusion are inherently "socialist" or perhaps America is such an individualistic culture that those things are perceived as socialist?

Btw...actually....America does have a long socialist tradition....but only for some groups.

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The State forcing organization/companies to meet gender and race quotas is de facto idealogical NeoMarxist regulation of the private sector. Private companies have a much greater incentive to diversify than public sector so they don't need Government to determine what the quotas should be.

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Interesting. Why would private companies have more incentive? It would seem that they would have less incentive, due to the lack of public/external stakeholder pressure.

If I have a private club/organizarion, funded by private money, how am I more incentivized, than if I am a public organization funded by tax dollars from the entire general public? (i.e. public sector)

Writ small, for example, private schools have more incentive to diversify than public schools?

IMO, it's interesting how a concept of having a diverse organizational workforce/employees became "socialist." In my experience, I've found it to be a tremendous advantage/benefit.

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If you are selling a product to as many demographics as possible it does not behoove you to discriminate. Companies will diversify as the market demands. Woman already dominate most white collar professions in Mexico just like the US. As far as ethnicities go Mexican companies will hire anyone who wants to work.

The Public sector by contrast is exponentially more nepotistic and unresponsive to markets. This is why Thomas Sowell supported public sector affirmative action. You may want to read his books. It will open your mind. Most Black Conservatives started as Black Radicals then grew out of the phase when confronted with the real world.

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Ok...but the majority of companies selling goods and services are not private companies.

VERY familiar with Thomas Sowell - and his work - actually related to him (via 2nd cousin, marriage) have met him at several family functions, but that's another story.

So...might want to slow up a bit on lecturing on black political, social, economic theory, conservative or liberal.

Again...the majority of companies/organizations that sell goods and services are PUBLIC/PUBICALLY TRADED companies that have to deal with external stakeholders, so they are completely ingrained/part of the "Public Sector" I mean, do you think Nike is private? Coca-Cola? Microsoft?

So, that would seem to reject your thesis that "private" companies have more incentive to diversify. Which is what you said.

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Even if you redefine private to means controlled by the public and therefore public it is still distinct from government bureaucracies. Nike, Coca Cola and Microsoft, however you define them, make more money if they know how to sell products to people of all ethnicities and considering those are international they require even more diverse salesforces for each respective market. A township in rural Minnesota has less incentive market to extremely diverse demographics and they are more likely to keep power in an entrenched legacy. Small Regional elections for office do not engage the pubic shareholders to the same extent as investers shareholder meetings. Most businesses in the US are small not large so any comparison to elections don't even apply. Latinos have massive underparticipation in elections but you can't argue with their purchasing power. They all buy goods. Merchants who want to ignore spanish speaking customers will generally not fare so well in the US. The government is not the driving force motivating businesses to offer bilingual options, the private sector did that without statist quotas.

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Lol.

Companies benefit from selling to as many people as possible (DIVERSITY)

Companies charge the same price for everyone (EQUITY)

Companies try to pull in/bring in as many customers as possible (INCLUSION)

You are repeating deranged talking points without thinking - for you - all of the above is "Statist"....whatever the fuck that means.

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These are not the definitions. For the private sector a diverse workforce helps sell to a diverse market. Spanish speaking sales department sells to spanish speaking customers. The private sector has more incentive to offer products in all languages than public sector.

The equity word in modern leftist context means equal outcome between oppressed and priveleged groups. Inclusion is a similarly hijacked Neomarxist term meaning hiring a designated marginalized demographic like obese transexual furries.

Statist means enforced by the Gov as opposed to voluntary decisions any private business makes to shape their own workforce.

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Dude...you claimed private companies have more incentive to be diverse, than public.

Yet all the companies you claim are "private"-are actually PUBLIC/PUBICALLY TRADED.

Yes...small mom and pop companies benefit from diversity and selling to diverse customers...so do large publicly traded companies...so why in the fuck are you complaining about DEI being "socialist" if it's a FREE-MARKET benefit for private and public companies?

Stop saying "statist" - that means nothing, has no legitimate economic valence, and you're just repeating gibberish.

Also...stop talking about Thomas Sowell. You are the 18th white person I've encountered on this board who has mentioned/regurgitated talking points, without knowing anything.

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Statist means enforced by the state. You are claiming publicly traded MNCs in the private sector are actually public sector because the public can invest in them. For someone who touts tertiary education that is an astonishly high level of ignorance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_sector.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_sector

Dollars to donuts 99% of the people commenting here have more college education than you yet you insist it's exceedingly important and we all really hate it. For you I could not recommend college enough. You love to debate but you never learned the basics and any college prof worth their salt would never give you a passing grade. Bringing up race and telling me not to reference Sowell as if I somehow failed to truly grasp his Basic Economics. Meanwhile you scream that actually Nike is the Public Sector. Get a life. Go back to college and finish your undergrad degree.

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Lol. There is nothing being enforced by the state. There is no "Statist" economic system in America.

Finished my undergrad, finished my MA, finished my PhD, and I teach undergrad at the major flagship university in MD and also teach graduate school at a well-known private university in Baltimore, MD.

Why would anyone go to college anyway?...it's all "liberal indoctrination" anyway right?

Nike is public sector, it is traded on the stock market....which makes it public...are you mentally disabled?

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Right????!

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Nor does the cartel subscribe to ESG policies.

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I can just see the cartel bosses meeting and saying ‘I have noticed that none of us are women - and that is not OK - we should all step aside to make room for our sisters’

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The Cartels do in fact support left wing causes across Mexico. Social Justice orgs get massive funding from them. Cartels are basically syndicates, guilds. Mexican socialist movements are tied to revered outlaws that farmer led rebellions to take money from old wealth and redistribute it to "the people" (Pancho Villa). That spirit is in their blood and marketed as such in music and entertainment. Also the Cartels openly collude and collaborate with AMLO, who touts their community activism.

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There isn't enough trans representation in our organization.

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🤣🤣🤣great post

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Leighton Woodhouse is an excellent writer. If you haven't checked out his substack, you should.

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Thanks. I will.

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But it DOES practice DEI. DEI means "don't hire white males or asians".

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Really? Actually, I heard it meant "Diversity, Equity, Inclusion." WhIch is a standard white and Asians can fall under. You seem to be saying DHWMOA. Maybe we have different acronyms?

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Ahh everybody's favorite troll is back to pretend that poor reading comprehension represents his intellectual superiority...

What do you all think, is this person for real, or are they a troll intentionally making leftists look bad? Personally I think it is the latter.

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And he's doing a great job; he's a hack.

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"Hey hustla, how’s the game treatin’ yah? Been a little while since I’ve seen you doing your Al Sharpton wrestling moves. Maybe you could win some hearts and minds if you explained how Honduran culture embraces diversity by granting black Americans a preferred customer status."

Nah. Comprehended 100% correctly

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Get thee behind me, Satan

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LOL Anthony. Perfectly said.

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Just a plain a..hole Anthony don’t think troll, bot. Sometimes I think not even human. Watch the reaction now there will be a meltdown in its camp.

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Does "Comprof" go by another name ever? I met up with someone similar who admitted he found trolling fun.

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I don’t think so at this stage under Comprof he gets maximum impact, when we really don’t take any notice of him/her, it might change its name.

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But we really need to stop giving him the attention he's seeking. Every time someone responds to him instead of ignoring him, he's just getting more of his kicks.

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Yeah I keep falling for the bait...

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It has taken me time and earnest effort to develop the self-control necessary to meet trolls with silence. But this is a helpful mantra: "The dog barks, but the caravan moves on." In other words, mindless yapping is not even worth one's time or energy to refute.

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Did Matt Mullen change capes?

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Wasn't Matt Mullen an NFL football player?

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You could be right haven’t seen the name fir ages

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Not enough right wing references for it to be Matt.

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Latter for sure. But also a plain old bully.

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Eh, it's trying to be disruptive enough to cut into Bari's subscription numbers is my theory. It seems to not realize that the simple exercise of self-control allows one to just scroll past it and ignore the stupid.

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Probably right. On both counts.

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Why would I be interested in winning the hearts and mind of people like you, or people on this board?

And why are you speaking to me in AAVE? Are you trying to be funny or make some point? Black people do understand standard English, Spicy.

Interesting rhetorical take with the "black people preferred status" re: drugs use, though. Man, I had you pegged all wrong.

When you have something to debate again, let me know. You haven't had much luck so far.

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Is AAVE the same as Ebonics?

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In some manner. AAVE is the linguistic approach/understanding that African-American Vernacular English has very specific and unique, syntactical, phonological, semantic rules, etc.

White conservatives, etc. prefer to call it "Ebonics" because it sounds more dismissive/insulting.

But at the root, both are referencing the same thing. Those that understand the concept, however, will usually make a distinction. Those that have a distaste/animosity toward black people in general will default to "Ebonics"

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I first became aware of the word when many in the Oakland school district were demanding that black kids be taught in Ebonics. They were most definitely not white conservatives.

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And what I said was/is most definitely correct. "Ebonics" was never the "correct" term, but you are using it here. Which proves/illustrates my point.

Also, your claim that Oakland schools were "demanding" is incorrect. So, I doubt your credibility re: this issue.

https://kappanonline.org/russo-ebonics-coverage-65649-2/

https://www.edweek.org/leadership/full-text-of-ebonics-resolution-adopted-by-oakland-board/1997/01

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If you're not interested in "winning the hearts and minds" here, then why bother posting? Other than for comic relief, that is.

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It's impossible to "win hearts and minds" in an ideological echo chamber, so just here to expose the hypocrisy of Bari and her sycophants.

Y'know....like her attempts to cancel Kanye and Trump because they were having "tough conversations." She did right on schedule.

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"like her attempts to cancel Kanye and Trump because they were having "tough conversations."

What does this mean? Not following you,.

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When she came out of the woodwork and wrote an article a few days ago about Trump and Kanye's anti-Semitic comments.

Adidas just dropped Kanye.

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Are you criticizing her stances on Ye and Pee, or praising her?

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I didn't think the comments were great, but I'm criticizing her inconsistency. She's all for cancel culture when it involves those who say things she considers anti-Semitic/criticizes Israel.

Everyone else? It's just "Free Speech" and "tough conversations"

IMO, I have found her to be consistently hypocritical throughout her career.

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Because the article is about the issue of Honduran drug activity in SF. Plus, I had you pegged correctly from Day 1.

So....

1. You've covered the "black people and drugs."

2. You've done your "Ebonics" bit.

Keep going, Spicy. You have many more spaces left on you "LiBRulS ArE THe REal RAcist!" Bingo card.

There's nothing you can say, that I haven't heard from people like you throughout my entire life....but who knows? Maybe you'll surprise me.

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I liked your post. It made me laugh. I try to not answer this troll's rants.

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Metoo thought it was very funny

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Obsessed. Some variation had to be included by every writer I believe. Maybe it's contractual?

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The fact that you roam this comment section habitually, offering your weak brand of contrarianism, proves two things: your obsession to “be heard,” and your ignorance to fact that we don’t give a care what you think. But, these words won’t dissuade you because . . . you are maladaptively obsessed.

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And I definitely don't care what you or anyone else here thinks, as you have no value to me as human being, so your input/opinion is irrelevant.

But it's so sad....thought you people were all about "conversations" and getting out of "echo chambers" unlike all those "leftists."

The only thing that is "weak" is that you and your compatriots can never effectively refute my points/arguments, so you're left with nothing but ad hominem attacks and telling people who don't participate in your obsessive, fake moral panic "groupthink" to leave your cult.

Don't care if I'm "heard" or not just like pointing out hypocrisy from people like you.

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“And I definitely don't care what you or anyone else here thinks”

“Don't care if I'm "heard" or not”

These are strange declarations for one who posts multiple times daily on a discussion board.

I question your ability to process coherent thought.

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I enjoy pointing out hypocrisy. Such as, you - who post just as much as anyone. However, people engage me with their stupid arguments, inability to refute my arguments, and they are left with nothing but sputtering insults like yours - so the virtuous cycle continues.

I question your ability to process anything.

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You point out hypocrisy to a group of folks whose views you care nothing for.

That’s a productive use of your time?

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Yep, sure is. Any other questions?

But no. Not that "I don't care ABOUT" I LOVE ideological groupthink, echo chambers, especially ones that think they're different from all the others. I just don't care if anyone's opinion is changed, etc.

Good news, though! Adidas cut ties with Kanye! Canceled!

I'm sure Bari is popping the champagne as we speak!

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Ignoring your weird non-sequiturs, I return to my original point- why engage with a group of folks whose engagement you disdain?

It’s a fairly straightforward question

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It's very simple: he's a troll. He gets his kicks by provoking people to respond to him. The one and only way to deal with trolls in a forum that doesn't have a block/mute feature is for everyone to steadfastly ignore them. Any response at all is giving them what they crave and keeps them coming back for more.

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Hi Celia. I’m not certain that’s correct- he lacks the turn of phrase and flourish of a gifted troll. Block/mute is certainly one option. Another is to use him as the forum piñata for our own entertainment. He’s not exactly quick on the draw.

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Wasn't single a non-sequiter involved. Answered your question already, but I'll do it again.

1. Love engaging in ideological echo chambers, especially one's that think they're different from all the others.

2. Love exposing the blatant hypocrisy. Kind of like telling OTHER people they need to engage others/different perspectives, then continuously asking someone why they're on a message board, or telling them to leave, they should leave the country, they don't belong here, etc.

3. Enjoy when no one can refute any of my arguments, and they are reduced to sputtering ad hominem attacks or erroneous claims of non-sequiturs.

Have you called Bari re: Kanye? I'm sure she's having a party.

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“Love exposing the blatant hypocrisy”

“Enjoy when no one can refute any of my arguments.”

That you are so oblivious to your own narcissism is really amusing.

I have no idea what Bari re: Kanye means. Is there a specific point you’re trying to make or is this some kind of sniveling innuendo?

Either which way, it is not relevant to the discussion- why do you spend your day on the digital equivalent of screaming down a well?

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The Tenderloin area, isn't that where you teach?

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No. Wrong state.

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I don't think comprof teaches at all. He may work at a university in the tenderloin area but his work involves a broom and a mop.

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Nothing of substance/value. Again.

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You use an awful lot of words to craft such a vacuous retort...

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Lol. Nothing of substance. Again.

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Have you ever noticed how the left curses the US as being a racist police state and use other scurrilous adjectives to describe the US? Yet not once do they criticize other nations, like China, that actually are racist police states. The Dems love Islam which is populated with murderous, misogynists. Countries like Iran and Saudi Arabia and all African and gulf Islamic states who still practice slavery. The left plays kissy face with Islam. They love Islam, "the religion of peace", my ass!

Yet it seems they hate the US. If they hate the US so much and it such a shit hole of police brutality and racism, why don't the go to the workers' paradise like Cuba, Venezuela or China?

I bet comprof could give up his mop and broom and actually teach in Cuba. He could teach how to the hate the US in three easy steps and the best technique how to really clean a floor

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Case in point in the northern middle states school board meetings.

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Yep.

1. People that equate blacks with drugs.

2. People who use AAVE/"Ebonics" with a black person in an attempt to be racially "clever."

Yes, "People like you," Spicy. Trash.

Man, I had you pegged ALL wrong. Lol.

Keep going....

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1. You've covered the "black people and drugs."

2. You did your "Ebonics" bit, for your opener.

Keep going, Spicy. Surely, you've got more than basic, intro-level material like that.

Surprise me.

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I'll certainly defer to your evident expertise on obsession.

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My obsessions are broad and far-ranging. You let me know whenever something else makes the "woke" list, ok?

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You'll be the first to know!

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