"but I think people thought ‘Who cares, he’s supporting the right cause,’ ” says Tanya."
This is a very dangerous mindset - to pretend a guy is OK/Brad Pitt because one likes his cause. The guy was clearly a radical and not OK.
It is also dangerous to vilify those who want to vote for Donald Trump for his policies and claim Trump is "deranged/unhinged/a Threat to Democracy". I wanted to share this parody video:
"RFK Jr. VP Candidate Nicole Shanahan Releases ‘The MAGA People’ Parody Video"
"“Across the Atlantic, in the North American country of the United States lays a fascinating and often misunderstood collective,” the narrator begins. “From its Northeastern cities to its Midwestern towns to its expansive West, this courageous group of individuals are most notably known for their unwavering patriotism. Join us as we explore the fascinating world of the MAGA People.”
“As we embarked on our journey, we were judicious in taking all necessary precautions,” the video continues. “Our media had warned us that these were a vicious, radical, and even deplorable people.”"
...
"“As they strive to uphold the peace and harmony throughout their communities, the MAGA people are insistent on protecting their borders,” the video continues. “However, they are not inherently confrontational as they advocate for ending the wars and military presence abroad. Further observations reveal that MAGA people come from all walks of life, including farmers and ranchers, family-owned businesses, entrepreneurs, health advocates, blue-collar workers, and military servicemen.”"
...
It says the MAGA people meet and join with the MAHA people (Make America Health Again). :-) :-)
"but I think people thought ‘Who cares, he’s supporting the right cause,’ ” says Tanya."
You've just described a lot of Trump/Republican voters as well, from the point of view, of well, many. For example, who cares if Trump lied about losing an election and instigated a riot, targeting his own VP for not breaking the law for him, gas prices were low under Trump (thanks to the pandemic lockdowns lol), and I like his tax cuts (thank Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell for winning their majorities and architecting the actual legislation... oh never mind, those are both two of some of the most hated "RINO's" in MAGA-world these days!), etc so what are some "mean Tweets" (ignoring of course objection to Trump's conduct and rhetoric is about a lot more than his juvenile Tweets). Who cares if Trump and Vance deliberately spread a malicious lie about Haitian immigrants murdering and eating beloved pets - it's just important they got the media finally talking about "immigration" (which, I guess if you avoid all mainstream media as a rule, you could be under the impression this is a never-before-been-reported-on topic, otherwise there have been lots and lots of in depth reporting about the trials and stresses of immigration/migration in various locations, including Springfield had a piece in NY Times several weeks before Vance's lies on Twitter about it).
"instigated a riot" - riiiiight - and watchout for Trump's sub machine gun - just like the would-be assassin.
I think the Cheneys and the Bushes don't want to accept that the Republican party has moved beyond them. I'd agree with that. I am a recent Republican - former Independent - who likes having Tulsi Gabbard, JD Vance, Vivek Ramaswamy, RFK, Jr. and Elon Musk on the team. The Democrats gained a singer. Should we hold our breath for a Ministry of Song?
Open Borders and illegal immigration are a major problem hurting cities and was not getting enough attention, IMO. Besides, people are having lots of fun with the cat memes.
I think we can agree the Republican Party has "moved on", I'll leave you to your "fun" and team sports (seriously, consider touching some grass at some point if that's your idea of "fun" though!).
Again, if you actually consumed any mainstream media even casually at all, you would know that immigration/migration strains and stresses has been heavily covered for well over the past several years under the Biden Administration, and usually is heavily critical of the Administration's handling of the border and migration. JD Vance didn't do shit but make his boss look "weird" on a national debate stage in front of millions of independent voters who are not heavy into online right wing memes and discourse - and on one of the topics that Trump is actually in positive territory on where he could have instead made some more effective points instead of getting pwned into letting go of that bit of verbal diarrhea ;p Instead he has let loose the worst of the Right's "discourse" around immigration into normie circles, and while I'm betting that normie voters want some border reform and wanted it yesterday, what they might dislike even worse are images of KKK fliers and Neo Nazi figures circulating around a town, calling in bomb threats to schools and hospitals over, and other associated "masks off" moments where these folks are happiily linking JD Vance and Trump to their presence and interestingly doesn't seem to be getting much of any pushback from the latter, so good luck with that!
" I'll leave you to your "fun" and team sports" I don't understand what that means.
"Again, if you actually consumed any mainstream media even casually at all"
I've seen it. It is bad - including the WSJ.
"JD Vance didn't do shit but make his boss look "weird"" Walz is majorly weird - they just accuse the opposing side of what they are/do.
" KKK fliers and Neo Nazi figures circulating around a town, calling in bomb threats to schools and hospitals" - that is bad. Who is doing it? I am pretty cynical after our summer of Antifa burning love and "fine people" hoaxes.
Anyhow, the cat memes are great fun & winning/saving the country could even come down to them :)
No, Gavin Newsom is not running for office this year (as yet he has not been switched in as a candidate anyway :) but Kamala Harris is apparently running for high office - if you care to watch the Babylon Bee video you will understand that!
An Actual Thought occurred to me (ALWAYS A scary thing :))
Donald Trump is a Giant Middle Finger to The Establishment. A Lot of Trump supporters don't know much about his Policies. They do know 2 things 1. When he was President things were pretty good, 2. The Powers That Be Hate Him, Lie about Him. So when you see a Trump 2024 sign, or a MAGA hat, what that really is, is a Giant F.U.
I think it is a mix. There's the variety you describe for sure.
There are also those worried about censorship and the border and the economy, endless wars (as opposed to negotiated peace where a good deal is made),
There are those concerned about the radicals who think the US Constitution is just some old rag.
There are parents angry about "gender" in education, pharma, "medicine", sports, Title IX, uh - where isn't it?
And, there are the "all of the aboves".
I don't think we will ever get beyond the gender cult unless our medical organizations (who ignore the Cass Review) and the pharmaceutical industry are held to account. These things won't happen if we have even more censorship. In fact, without respect for Free Speech we have nothing.
"The MAGA People" is a great video, isn't it? Have you seen Nicole Shanahan's parody video of pharmaceutical ads warning voters about "Trump Derangement Syndrome"?
"There are also those worried about censorship and the border and the economy, endless wars (as opposed to negotiated peace where a good deal is made),
There are those concerned about the radicals who think the US Constitution is just some old rag.
There are parents angry about "gender" in education, pharma, "medicine", sports, Title IX, uh - where isn't it?
And, there are the "all of the aboves""
These are all The same thing. ie The Establishment, Our Betters Failed us...we The Great Unwashed.
"Nicole Shanahan's parody video"
I pay very little attention to 3rd party candidates. They Never Win. At best they promote ideas that the 2 main parties pick up on.
Never heard of her and (to be brutally honest) very little interest in finding out more.
"These are all The same thing. ie The Establishment, Our Betters Failed us...we The Great Unwashed." True
I am not promoting Nicole Shanahan so that anyone votes for a 3rd party. I agree with you.
But, I think she produced a couple of brilliant videos in support of the Trump campaign: The Maga People which is made in the manner of a nature video and the second one I provided which is made like a pharma ad.
"but I think people thought ‘Who cares, he’s supporting the right cause,’ ” says Tanya."
This is a very dangerous mindset - to pretend a guy is OK/Brad Pitt because one likes his cause. The guy was clearly a radical and not OK.
It is also dangerous to vilify those who want to vote for Donald Trump for his policies and claim Trump is "deranged/unhinged/a Threat to Democracy". I wanted to share this parody video:
"RFK Jr. VP Candidate Nicole Shanahan Releases ‘The MAGA People’ Parody Video"
https://www.dailywire.com/news/rfk-jr-vp-candidate-nicole-shanahan-releases-the-maga-people-parody-video
"“Across the Atlantic, in the North American country of the United States lays a fascinating and often misunderstood collective,” the narrator begins. “From its Northeastern cities to its Midwestern towns to its expansive West, this courageous group of individuals are most notably known for their unwavering patriotism. Join us as we explore the fascinating world of the MAGA People.”
“As we embarked on our journey, we were judicious in taking all necessary precautions,” the video continues. “Our media had warned us that these were a vicious, radical, and even deplorable people.”"
...
"“As they strive to uphold the peace and harmony throughout their communities, the MAGA people are insistent on protecting their borders,” the video continues. “However, they are not inherently confrontational as they advocate for ending the wars and military presence abroad. Further observations reveal that MAGA people come from all walks of life, including farmers and ranchers, family-owned businesses, entrepreneurs, health advocates, blue-collar workers, and military servicemen.”"
...
It says the MAGA people meet and join with the MAHA people (Make America Health Again). :-) :-)
"but I think people thought ‘Who cares, he’s supporting the right cause,’ ” says Tanya."
You've just described a lot of Trump/Republican voters as well, from the point of view, of well, many. For example, who cares if Trump lied about losing an election and instigated a riot, targeting his own VP for not breaking the law for him, gas prices were low under Trump (thanks to the pandemic lockdowns lol), and I like his tax cuts (thank Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell for winning their majorities and architecting the actual legislation... oh never mind, those are both two of some of the most hated "RINO's" in MAGA-world these days!), etc so what are some "mean Tweets" (ignoring of course objection to Trump's conduct and rhetoric is about a lot more than his juvenile Tweets). Who cares if Trump and Vance deliberately spread a malicious lie about Haitian immigrants murdering and eating beloved pets - it's just important they got the media finally talking about "immigration" (which, I guess if you avoid all mainstream media as a rule, you could be under the impression this is a never-before-been-reported-on topic, otherwise there have been lots and lots of in depth reporting about the trials and stresses of immigration/migration in various locations, including Springfield had a piece in NY Times several weeks before Vance's lies on Twitter about it).
"instigated a riot" - riiiiight - and watchout for Trump's sub machine gun - just like the would-be assassin.
I think the Cheneys and the Bushes don't want to accept that the Republican party has moved beyond them. I'd agree with that. I am a recent Republican - former Independent - who likes having Tulsi Gabbard, JD Vance, Vivek Ramaswamy, RFK, Jr. and Elon Musk on the team. The Democrats gained a singer. Should we hold our breath for a Ministry of Song?
Open Borders and illegal immigration are a major problem hurting cities and was not getting enough attention, IMO. Besides, people are having lots of fun with the cat memes.
I think we can agree the Republican Party has "moved on", I'll leave you to your "fun" and team sports (seriously, consider touching some grass at some point if that's your idea of "fun" though!).
Again, if you actually consumed any mainstream media even casually at all, you would know that immigration/migration strains and stresses has been heavily covered for well over the past several years under the Biden Administration, and usually is heavily critical of the Administration's handling of the border and migration. JD Vance didn't do shit but make his boss look "weird" on a national debate stage in front of millions of independent voters who are not heavy into online right wing memes and discourse - and on one of the topics that Trump is actually in positive territory on where he could have instead made some more effective points instead of getting pwned into letting go of that bit of verbal diarrhea ;p Instead he has let loose the worst of the Right's "discourse" around immigration into normie circles, and while I'm betting that normie voters want some border reform and wanted it yesterday, what they might dislike even worse are images of KKK fliers and Neo Nazi figures circulating around a town, calling in bomb threats to schools and hospitals over, and other associated "masks off" moments where these folks are happiily linking JD Vance and Trump to their presence and interestingly doesn't seem to be getting much of any pushback from the latter, so good luck with that!
Anyway, back to the "fun memes" :D
" I'll leave you to your "fun" and team sports" I don't understand what that means.
"Again, if you actually consumed any mainstream media even casually at all"
I've seen it. It is bad - including the WSJ.
"JD Vance didn't do shit but make his boss look "weird"" Walz is majorly weird - they just accuse the opposing side of what they are/do.
" KKK fliers and Neo Nazi figures circulating around a town, calling in bomb threats to schools and hospitals" - that is bad. Who is doing it? I am pretty cynical after our summer of Antifa burning love and "fine people" hoaxes.
Anyhow, the cat memes are great fun & winning/saving the country could even come down to them :)
"Anyhow, the cat memes are great fun & winning/saving the country could even come down to them :)"
if you think that's how it's playing out so far... please proceed : )
Will do! I almost want to "like" your comment - except that I have never made a meme. :-)
This parody is awesome though so I will share it:
"BREAKING: The Babylon Bee has obtained this exclusive, official, 100% real Gavin Newsom election ad."
https://x.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1836518555648692570?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1836518555648692570%7Ctwgr%5Ea25fa24fb0f273bc83a9fc2a03223edeec103181%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Finstapundit.com%2F673118%2F
Is Gavin Newsom running for Office this year? I mean otherwise, totally convincing bit of "parody"? ;p
No, Gavin Newsom is not running for office this year (as yet he has not been switched in as a candidate anyway :) but Kamala Harris is apparently running for high office - if you care to watch the Babylon Bee video you will understand that!
nah ;p but thanks!
The MAGA People. Loved It.
An Actual Thought occurred to me (ALWAYS A scary thing :))
Donald Trump is a Giant Middle Finger to The Establishment. A Lot of Trump supporters don't know much about his Policies. They do know 2 things 1. When he was President things were pretty good, 2. The Powers That Be Hate Him, Lie about Him. So when you see a Trump 2024 sign, or a MAGA hat, what that really is, is a Giant F.U.
I think it is a mix. There's the variety you describe for sure.
There are also those worried about censorship and the border and the economy, endless wars (as opposed to negotiated peace where a good deal is made),
There are those concerned about the radicals who think the US Constitution is just some old rag.
There are parents angry about "gender" in education, pharma, "medicine", sports, Title IX, uh - where isn't it?
And, there are the "all of the aboves".
I don't think we will ever get beyond the gender cult unless our medical organizations (who ignore the Cass Review) and the pharmaceutical industry are held to account. These things won't happen if we have even more censorship. In fact, without respect for Free Speech we have nothing.
"The MAGA People" is a great video, isn't it? Have you seen Nicole Shanahan's parody video of pharmaceutical ads warning voters about "Trump Derangement Syndrome"?
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/08/30/rfks_running_mate_nicole_shanahan_are_you_suffering_from_trump_derangement_syndrome.html
"There are also those worried about censorship and the border and the economy, endless wars (as opposed to negotiated peace where a good deal is made),
There are those concerned about the radicals who think the US Constitution is just some old rag.
There are parents angry about "gender" in education, pharma, "medicine", sports, Title IX, uh - where isn't it?
And, there are the "all of the aboves""
These are all The same thing. ie The Establishment, Our Betters Failed us...we The Great Unwashed.
"Nicole Shanahan's parody video"
I pay very little attention to 3rd party candidates. They Never Win. At best they promote ideas that the 2 main parties pick up on.
Never heard of her and (to be brutally honest) very little interest in finding out more.
"These are all The same thing. ie The Establishment, Our Betters Failed us...we The Great Unwashed." True
I am not promoting Nicole Shanahan so that anyone votes for a 3rd party. I agree with you.
But, I think she produced a couple of brilliant videos in support of the Trump campaign: The Maga People which is made in the manner of a nature video and the second one I provided which is made like a pharma ad.