“When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.” -Socrates
Ad hominem attacks are toward the person, not the idea. In all aspects of modern day life, the left has perfected the art of the ad hominem and made it part of the process. Curious young minds should not be exposed to this organization’s indoctrination. Participation is not just a waste of time, it is detrimental.
“When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.” -Socrates
Ad hominem attacks are toward the person, not the idea. In all aspects of modern day life, the left has perfected the art of the ad hominem and made it part of the process. Curious young minds should not be exposed to this organization’s indoctrination. Participation is not just a waste of time, it is detrimental.
To be fair, Trump is pretty much an Ad Hominem attack personified. So, sadly the left does not have a monopoly on it.
I remember in speech class in college our teacher was pointing out the various fallacies and even back in the 90's I asked "When someone in the real world uses these, does anyone call them out? And if not, aren't you hindering us by limiting out tools to convince people?" I have hated Political debates ever since that class because all I see is a ocean of fallacies and no one calling them out.
There are easily found lists of logical fallacies. When I was teaching a high school law class, I encouraged the students to point out when their peers or I committed one or more. Boy, was that fun; and, sometimes personally very embarrassing. In that class, daily homework was a mandated hour of cable: a half hour of Fox and a half hour of MSNBC or CNN. Frankly, a class in basic legal principles morphed into finding fallacies and biases. Watching the morning classroom news battles was very entertaining. I'm in different classes now. I miss those days.
Trump attacked people , but he was always hitting back.... it’s definitely not the same thing as what the left does. There was not even anything to attack this kid on. There is nothing wrong with his tweet.
NAh, everyone thinks they are hitting back, leftists included. The person who says "I like starting trouble" is pretty rare. Much more common is "I'm a nice guy/girl, but I will fight back." We want justice for our neighbors and mercy for ourselves, and we all fight and imagine ourselves righteous. That is why forbearance and forgiveness are so very important.
“When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.” -Socrates
Ad hominem attacks are toward the person, not the idea. In all aspects of modern day life, the left has perfected the art of the ad hominem and made it part of the process. Curious young minds should not be exposed to this organization’s indoctrination. Participation is not just a waste of time, it is detrimental.
To be fair, Trump is pretty much an Ad Hominem attack personified. So, sadly the left does not have a monopoly on it.
I remember in speech class in college our teacher was pointing out the various fallacies and even back in the 90's I asked "When someone in the real world uses these, does anyone call them out? And if not, aren't you hindering us by limiting out tools to convince people?" I have hated Political debates ever since that class because all I see is a ocean of fallacies and no one calling them out.
There are easily found lists of logical fallacies. When I was teaching a high school law class, I encouraged the students to point out when their peers or I committed one or more. Boy, was that fun; and, sometimes personally very embarrassing. In that class, daily homework was a mandated hour of cable: a half hour of Fox and a half hour of MSNBC or CNN. Frankly, a class in basic legal principles morphed into finding fallacies and biases. Watching the morning classroom news battles was very entertaining. I'm in different classes now. I miss those days.
Trump attacked people , but he was always hitting back.... it’s definitely not the same thing as what the left does. There was not even anything to attack this kid on. There is nothing wrong with his tweet.
The dude was pre-attacking DeSantis before DS was even running. No, he is not always defending.
NAh, everyone thinks they are hitting back, leftists included. The person who says "I like starting trouble" is pretty rare. Much more common is "I'm a nice guy/girl, but I will fight back." We want justice for our neighbors and mercy for ourselves, and we all fight and imagine ourselves righteous. That is why forbearance and forgiveness are so very important.
Rosie o donnell is the example that comes to mind. I recall a lot of other examples that fall in that bucket.
"an ocean of fallacies" Yup!
Totally agree, littleoldMD!
If formal debaters do not know that an ad hominem argument is a basic logic fallacy then there is no debate standard
Yet, young adults have to learn. Sheltering them from what’s being done to them is worse.
This isn't sheltering, it's intimidation.
The intellectual dishonesty on display is appalling.