Three years ago, a party with a hint of a right-leaning theme in Chapel Hill would have probably attracted more counter-protesters than attendees and any student associated with it would've been committing social suicide. The fact that nearly a thousand people, many of them UNC students, would be willing to humanize Republicans portends …
Three years ago, a party with a hint of a right-leaning theme in Chapel Hill would have probably attracted more counter-protesters than attendees and any student associated with it would've been committing social suicide. The fact that nearly a thousand people, many of them UNC students, would be willing to humanize Republicans portends an extraordinary shift in the balance of power on campus. The fact that free thinking kids can step out of the echo chamber means the house of cards is collapsing. The progressive psychosis in academia is loosing its grip.
yeah i don't know about that, despite all the attention given to protesting against right leaning/conservative events on campuses, they have occurred and had support on campus from groups that have more conservative/right leaning student members, I mean College Republicans have had a campus presence for a while now? Frat parties have been throwing in your face "non-PC" themed parties for decades, with the "outrage" almost planned as part of the event. I think there's probably a lot of over-estimation of the social power and numbers of hyper-progressive students on campus and their sphere of influence. Of course that varies per campus but I think Chapel Hill is probably a large enough campus that there's quite bit of student viewpoint diversity represented, including political and culture wars apathy.
I agree it will be healthier to have more tolerance for viewpoint diversity on campuses broadly speaking, but I'm not sure I agree that hasn't been happening either, and I'm not sure this "party" was a symptom of a "broadening" of campus viewpoint tolerance - free beer is free beer after all. And given that organizers select invited students from groups that would be more likely to have conservative students and got about a ~10% response speaks to perhaps other issues students may have had regarding the event - which has been at least partially explained here, it's not so much "eww Republicans" but wariness of a "party" that seemed political in its setup.
That's a lot of contortions, smarti, to convince yourself that there's been viewpoint diversity on campus all along. Those violent protests that occurred nearly every time a speaker who was slightly right of extreme left attempted to speak on campus are just false memories, I suppose. As for UNC campus, we were there for a campus visit two years ago and it was bubbling with wokeness. Not as bad as NC State which was a monument to trendy Leftism. As Trump has become more popular among Gen Z boys, progressive hegemony on campus has begun to show cracks and the concert in Chapel Hill is a meaningful fissure.
Not really, I'm just debating the degree and prevalance of such things, or that right wing/conservative thought has been completely displaced and suppressed on most campuses. I think the picture is much more nuanced than we get from various media sources, many of which have a certain agenda themselves when it comes to presenting these issues on campus. That said, I definitely don't disagree that there are more recent problems with ideological/epistemic closure happening on many campuses, particularly around the Israel/Gaza issue, I think it's actually probably more of an issue now than it was a few years ago, actually - while still not representing the majority of what happens on campus, or representative of the majority of students on those campuses where these well publicized events are occurring. "Bubbling with wokeness" - again, these are large campuses with lots going on, not sure how you can make such a broad assessment based on a single visit, but OK I'm sure campuses, as they've always more or less have been, are more "left" than the parents of college students would prefer them to be!
I think Trump's popularity with Gen Z men and boys is largely happening with non-college educated men, although I'm sure there's a contingent of support within higher education with males, as there have always been College Republicans, as I've stated.
"Hi, I'm Caitlyn, I'll be your tour guide today. My pronouns are..." Listen to the bubbles. NC State in particular made sure that everyone who checked in for the campus tour checked in with an obese, trans African-American. Is THAT enough bubbles for you?
Nobody said that "right wing/conservative thought has been completely displaced" on college campus but there is abundant evidence that it's not welcome and is often the object of violent protests when it tries to be heard. Do I really have to assemble a list of cancelled conservative events for you? How about a list of events that were shut down by a mob after they began? How about a list of speakers who had to be escorted off campus for their own safety after trying to give a speech and being overwhelmed? Goodness gracious, buddy. Why would you cling to a notion so easily disproved?
Anyway, I should have conceded earlier that the event organizers did indeed miscalculate. Had they not turned it into a Republican campaign event, they would undoubtedly have had a lot fewer leftover hot wings. The fact that they DID turn it into a Republican campaign event and still got 1000 people through the gate represents to me a seismic shift in the amount of conservatism that is tolerated on college campuses. In spite of these encouraging developments, I wouldn't book Douglas Murray for a Q&A on campus just yet.
Three years ago, a party with a hint of a right-leaning theme in Chapel Hill would have probably attracted more counter-protesters than attendees and any student associated with it would've been committing social suicide. The fact that nearly a thousand people, many of them UNC students, would be willing to humanize Republicans portends an extraordinary shift in the balance of power on campus. The fact that free thinking kids can step out of the echo chamber means the house of cards is collapsing. The progressive psychosis in academia is loosing its grip.
Agreed
yeah i don't know about that, despite all the attention given to protesting against right leaning/conservative events on campuses, they have occurred and had support on campus from groups that have more conservative/right leaning student members, I mean College Republicans have had a campus presence for a while now? Frat parties have been throwing in your face "non-PC" themed parties for decades, with the "outrage" almost planned as part of the event. I think there's probably a lot of over-estimation of the social power and numbers of hyper-progressive students on campus and their sphere of influence. Of course that varies per campus but I think Chapel Hill is probably a large enough campus that there's quite bit of student viewpoint diversity represented, including political and culture wars apathy.
I agree it will be healthier to have more tolerance for viewpoint diversity on campuses broadly speaking, but I'm not sure I agree that hasn't been happening either, and I'm not sure this "party" was a symptom of a "broadening" of campus viewpoint tolerance - free beer is free beer after all. And given that organizers select invited students from groups that would be more likely to have conservative students and got about a ~10% response speaks to perhaps other issues students may have had regarding the event - which has been at least partially explained here, it's not so much "eww Republicans" but wariness of a "party" that seemed political in its setup.
That's a lot of contortions, smarti, to convince yourself that there's been viewpoint diversity on campus all along. Those violent protests that occurred nearly every time a speaker who was slightly right of extreme left attempted to speak on campus are just false memories, I suppose. As for UNC campus, we were there for a campus visit two years ago and it was bubbling with wokeness. Not as bad as NC State which was a monument to trendy Leftism. As Trump has become more popular among Gen Z boys, progressive hegemony on campus has begun to show cracks and the concert in Chapel Hill is a meaningful fissure.
Not really, I'm just debating the degree and prevalance of such things, or that right wing/conservative thought has been completely displaced and suppressed on most campuses. I think the picture is much more nuanced than we get from various media sources, many of which have a certain agenda themselves when it comes to presenting these issues on campus. That said, I definitely don't disagree that there are more recent problems with ideological/epistemic closure happening on many campuses, particularly around the Israel/Gaza issue, I think it's actually probably more of an issue now than it was a few years ago, actually - while still not representing the majority of what happens on campus, or representative of the majority of students on those campuses where these well publicized events are occurring. "Bubbling with wokeness" - again, these are large campuses with lots going on, not sure how you can make such a broad assessment based on a single visit, but OK I'm sure campuses, as they've always more or less have been, are more "left" than the parents of college students would prefer them to be!
I think Trump's popularity with Gen Z men and boys is largely happening with non-college educated men, although I'm sure there's a contingent of support within higher education with males, as there have always been College Republicans, as I've stated.
"Hi, I'm Caitlyn, I'll be your tour guide today. My pronouns are..." Listen to the bubbles. NC State in particular made sure that everyone who checked in for the campus tour checked in with an obese, trans African-American. Is THAT enough bubbles for you?
Nobody said that "right wing/conservative thought has been completely displaced" on college campus but there is abundant evidence that it's not welcome and is often the object of violent protests when it tries to be heard. Do I really have to assemble a list of cancelled conservative events for you? How about a list of events that were shut down by a mob after they began? How about a list of speakers who had to be escorted off campus for their own safety after trying to give a speech and being overwhelmed? Goodness gracious, buddy. Why would you cling to a notion so easily disproved?
Anyway, I should have conceded earlier that the event organizers did indeed miscalculate. Had they not turned it into a Republican campaign event, they would undoubtedly have had a lot fewer leftover hot wings. The fact that they DID turn it into a Republican campaign event and still got 1000 people through the gate represents to me a seismic shift in the amount of conservatism that is tolerated on college campuses. In spite of these encouraging developments, I wouldn't book Douglas Murray for a Q&A on campus just yet.