Taking the voter rolls and running them all or representative samples through whatever the current systems banks use to verify addresses for credit cards. The banks will never knowingly send a card to an address they can't confirm, but is that the same standard we send ballots? If large amounts don't verify, but the ballots go out anyway…
Taking the voter rolls and running them all or representative samples through whatever the current systems banks use to verify addresses for credit cards. The banks will never knowingly send a card to an address they can't confirm, but is that the same standard we send ballots? If large amounts don't verify, but the ballots go out anyway, and no one sees or verifies who votes and puts that into drop boxes as no one watches. Nothing to see here, right? Intelligently covering this will inform that, sadly no one does in any media outlet.
I believe there are New Yorkers who are trying to do that and are being hounded and charged for their efforts. It's no coincidence that Tammany Hall was a Democrat operation. Just like the fabled scorpion - it's in their nature.
We still get ballots for the former owner of our house who moved back to England 10 years ago. We also still get ballots from the state we left to move into that second place.
I've always voted in person, but I'm beginning to believe that we should be required, by law, to submit change-of-address notices to county registrars when we relocate. Maybe people should be required to submit notices -- changing address or not changing address? -- when they buy or rent new homes. Goodness knows it would be too much to ask our already overworked bureaucrats to maintain honest lists of current resident voters.
For years a ballot for my deceased mother would arrive in my mailbox even though she never lived in my home! I would bring the unopened ballot to my local polling place on election day and still one would show up for the next election. It took about three elections cycles for it to stop. What a mess.
MD Greene, I STILL get a ballot for my husband, who died February 1, 2009! He was a registered Democrat. Numerous calls have been made through the years, yet like clockwork his ballot arrives. Growing increasingly irate at this, about 6 years ago, I asked the woman who took my call WHAT I HAD TO DO TO STOP THIS!
Admittedly, out of frustration, I snidely told her I thought Democrats were environmentalists, and they should think of all the trees they’re killing to make & send ballots to DEAD people!
I kid you not, her response, “If you know who he wants to vote for, I don’t see a problem with you sending it in for him, until he gets back” and hung up!
Perhaps she was being sarcastic back at me, or perhaps not!
She was too lazy to help you accomplish an honorable goal. She may well have preferred for you to submit a fraudulent vote. She ought not to be working in a public election office.
I am very sorry for the way your honest requests were mishandled. I would like to think that a local politician, of either party, would take an interest in getting the matter resolved.
When I lived in Chicago years ago I volunteered for True the Vote. The purpose was to ID voters not connected to their current address and flag them to the BOE. We found “voters” with addresses that were abandoned buildings and a doctor’s office. Also, lots of kids who registered at college but hadn’t been there for years. Of course, True the Vote ran into some trouble with democrats. Can’t remember what happened. Why are democrats so afraid of clean voter rolls?
Was this former owner of your house an American who lived in Britain for a while, came home, and then moved back? Or a British national with British, not American, citizenship?
My understanding is that she was an English native who worked for some years of her adult life in CA. I have never met a British citizen who went through the effort to become a US citizen, but that does not mean it could not happen. OTOH, she had moved back to Britain when we bought the house. I have no explanation for any of it except that we knew the ballots were not ours and we held onto them after they arrived in case she wanted to contact us and have them forwarded. (At least she knew the address, after all.) After several years of no contacts, we just put them in the recycling bin.
Interesting thing to have happened! Where on Earth would the county elections commission had gotten her name and address to mail her a ballot, I wonder.
MD, there is already a plethora of address change data (taxes, mail address change, Social Security.....) that registrars and states could use to clear their roles. They just don't. You die and it seems that Social Security and the IRS have your status change before you reach the pearly gates. But.....
Your example isn't the problem. Of course, voter fraud isn't new. In my youth, I knew a couple of guys who harvested names form the cemetery to put on voter roles for a certain party. But the scale today is off the charts, largely empowered by fake ballots via mail-in ballots and harvesting. And maybe via computerized voting machines - I haven't come to a conclusion on that one yet.
Friends have served as poll watchers to try and keep things honest, but gave up. The system has more holes for cheating than Swiss cheese.
It’s a rigged system Rich there is no chain of custody, no voter ID, 2 months early voting I could go on -Australia outlawed Mail ins at the turn of the 20th century for the very reasons stated above.
Nope. I’m writing this from Sydney Australia. Mail-in voting is legal and widely adopted in both state and federal elections, and uncontroversial. You have to enrol first - can be done on-line, and the Electoral Commission verifies your identity - and then you can vote by mail or in person (on-line voting is not yet possible, but it’s coming). Voting is compulsory - citizenship is both a privilege and a responsibility. And by the way, Election Day is always on a Saturday. This is not hard, guys!
It depends on where you are. I am in Texas and have been a judge at a polling place. We require ID and confirm addresses. Our system is up to date except for recent moves. If you say you are eligible to vote in my county but your DL (or ID) says otherwise you can verify your new address in a few ways and cast a provisional ballot. A provisional ballot is subject to validation by the county Election Administrator before it is counted.
I am in Texas, as well. I'm glad to see YOUR county is doing something right. I can assure that others aren't. You, of course, are aware of all the alleged issues in Harris County. But.... the discussion/issues seem to focus on Blue states/cities. The longer it has been Blue, the larger the problems.
I did see that. People coming up in carloads to vote. Outside of hours and authorized locales. All in under the guise of covid emergency. That is why I know the 2020 election was in fact hijacked. But you do know there is serious pushback against the Harris County Clerk and Election Administrator over that right? Not so in Democrat states though.
Presumably she had lived in the US long enough to qualify for citizenship and then decided that she preferred to live in her native country.
I never met the person and threw out the ballots that arrived at her former address. If she wanted absentee ballots forwarded to her new address, she could have requested them.
That state has mailed out ballots to all registered voters for some years now.
I remember reading a few years ago that one small apartment received 24 mail-in ballots, which presumably included ballots for persons who since had moved elsewhere.
Interesting fact: Two years ago, a felon was arrested in the state for another charge and was found to be carrying 300 empty ballots in his car. To my knowledge, this matter was never pursued, but I think it should have been a matter of interest. Why would such a person want a bunch of ballots?
This happened in Los Angeles County, which has more than 10 million residents if you count the homeless derelicts. Either she became a US citizen or she lied to the voting registrar or the registrar did not verify her eligibility. All I know is that she received mail-in ballots at what was then our address for years after she had left. I'm done with you now.
Don’t engage him. He is a rude, unpleasant, lonely troll. Go to his home, notice he doesn’t subscribe to any accounts on the page click the three dots and he is gone.
Taking the voter rolls and running them all or representative samples through whatever the current systems banks use to verify addresses for credit cards. The banks will never knowingly send a card to an address they can't confirm, but is that the same standard we send ballots? If large amounts don't verify, but the ballots go out anyway, and no one sees or verifies who votes and puts that into drop boxes as no one watches. Nothing to see here, right? Intelligently covering this will inform that, sadly no one does in any media outlet.
The Public Interest Legal Foundation has done a lot of work to document numbers of illegal voter registrants and voters. Browse their reports:
https://publicinterestlegal.org/reports/
Great link TF. Thanks.
I believe there are New Yorkers who are trying to do that and are being hounded and charged for their efforts. It's no coincidence that Tammany Hall was a Democrat operation. Just like the fabled scorpion - it's in their nature.
We still get ballots for the former owner of our house who moved back to England 10 years ago. We also still get ballots from the state we left to move into that second place.
I've always voted in person, but I'm beginning to believe that we should be required, by law, to submit change-of-address notices to county registrars when we relocate. Maybe people should be required to submit notices -- changing address or not changing address? -- when they buy or rent new homes. Goodness knows it would be too much to ask our already overworked bureaucrats to maintain honest lists of current resident voters.
For years a ballot for my deceased mother would arrive in my mailbox even though she never lived in my home! I would bring the unopened ballot to my local polling place on election day and still one would show up for the next election. It took about three elections cycles for it to stop. What a mess.
MD Greene, I STILL get a ballot for my husband, who died February 1, 2009! He was a registered Democrat. Numerous calls have been made through the years, yet like clockwork his ballot arrives. Growing increasingly irate at this, about 6 years ago, I asked the woman who took my call WHAT I HAD TO DO TO STOP THIS!
Admittedly, out of frustration, I snidely told her I thought Democrats were environmentalists, and they should think of all the trees they’re killing to make & send ballots to DEAD people!
I kid you not, her response, “If you know who he wants to vote for, I don’t see a problem with you sending it in for him, until he gets back” and hung up!
Perhaps she was being sarcastic back at me, or perhaps not!
Clearly, she thought your husband at some point would be resurrected.
She was too lazy to help you accomplish an honorable goal. She may well have preferred for you to submit a fraudulent vote. She ought not to be working in a public election office.
I am very sorry for the way your honest requests were mishandled. I would like to think that a local politician, of either party, would take an interest in getting the matter resolved.
She wasn't.
She's a Democrat.
Exactly Bruce!
When I lived in Chicago years ago I volunteered for True the Vote. The purpose was to ID voters not connected to their current address and flag them to the BOE. We found “voters” with addresses that were abandoned buildings and a doctor’s office. Also, lots of kids who registered at college but hadn’t been there for years. Of course, True the Vote ran into some trouble with democrats. Can’t remember what happened. Why are democrats so afraid of clean voter rolls?
They will lose every election hands down that’s why I think they petrified.
Was this former owner of your house an American who lived in Britain for a while, came home, and then moved back? Or a British national with British, not American, citizenship?
My understanding is that she was an English native who worked for some years of her adult life in CA. I have never met a British citizen who went through the effort to become a US citizen, but that does not mean it could not happen. OTOH, she had moved back to Britain when we bought the house. I have no explanation for any of it except that we knew the ballots were not ours and we held onto them after they arrived in case she wanted to contact us and have them forwarded. (At least she knew the address, after all.) After several years of no contacts, we just put them in the recycling bin.
Interesting thing to have happened! Where on Earth would the county elections commission had gotten her name and address to mail her a ballot, I wonder.
MD, there is already a plethora of address change data (taxes, mail address change, Social Security.....) that registrars and states could use to clear their roles. They just don't. You die and it seems that Social Security and the IRS have your status change before you reach the pearly gates. But.....
Your example isn't the problem. Of course, voter fraud isn't new. In my youth, I knew a couple of guys who harvested names form the cemetery to put on voter roles for a certain party. But the scale today is off the charts, largely empowered by fake ballots via mail-in ballots and harvesting. And maybe via computerized voting machines - I haven't come to a conclusion on that one yet.
Friends have served as poll watchers to try and keep things honest, but gave up. The system has more holes for cheating than Swiss cheese.
It’s a rigged system Rich there is no chain of custody, no voter ID, 2 months early voting I could go on -Australia outlawed Mail ins at the turn of the 20th century for the very reasons stated above.
Nope. I’m writing this from Sydney Australia. Mail-in voting is legal and widely adopted in both state and federal elections, and uncontroversial. You have to enrol first - can be done on-line, and the Electoral Commission verifies your identity - and then you can vote by mail or in person (on-line voting is not yet possible, but it’s coming). Voting is compulsory - citizenship is both a privilege and a responsibility. And by the way, Election Day is always on a Saturday. This is not hard, guys!
Nope it’s not to hard in Aus, here in the US it is.
Also, Australia has compulsory voting.
Which is exactly why it won't be outlawed here
It depends on where you are. I am in Texas and have been a judge at a polling place. We require ID and confirm addresses. Our system is up to date except for recent moves. If you say you are eligible to vote in my county but your DL (or ID) says otherwise you can verify your new address in a few ways and cast a provisional ballot. A provisional ballot is subject to validation by the county Election Administrator before it is counted.
I am in Texas, as well. I'm glad to see YOUR county is doing something right. I can assure that others aren't. You, of course, are aware of all the alleged issues in Harris County. But.... the discussion/issues seem to focus on Blue states/cities. The longer it has been Blue, the larger the problems.
I did see that. People coming up in carloads to vote. Outside of hours and authorized locales. All in under the guise of covid emergency. That is why I know the 2020 election was in fact hijacked. But you do know there is serious pushback against the Harris County Clerk and Election Administrator over that right? Not so in Democrat states though.
Right. If I recall, the State (Abbott) took control of the country election process. Or was that the school district? Or both!!? :)
Both. I think the elections takeover is in court as we right.
I still get election related communication from KY when I’ve been in OH since 2017. Also, I get communication from MI. I’ve never lived in MI.
Why was a Brit getting a ballot
Presumably she had lived in the US long enough to qualify for citizenship and then decided that she preferred to live in her native country.
I never met the person and threw out the ballots that arrived at her former address. If she wanted absentee ballots forwarded to her new address, she could have requested them.
That state has mailed out ballots to all registered voters for some years now.
I remember reading a few years ago that one small apartment received 24 mail-in ballots, which presumably included ballots for persons who since had moved elsewhere.
Interesting fact: Two years ago, a felon was arrested in the state for another charge and was found to be carrying 300 empty ballots in his car. To my knowledge, this matter was never pursued, but I think it should have been a matter of interest. Why would such a person want a bunch of ballots?
Yeah I wonder why MD - could it have been a rigged vote?
Yeah....the story is bullshit.
Sorry, it's not. I don't lie.
Don't engage with it. It is an exercise in futility.
Yes, it is. A British citizen did not get U.S. voter registration sent to your house.
This happened in Los Angeles County, which has more than 10 million residents if you count the homeless derelicts. Either she became a US citizen or she lied to the voting registrar or the registrar did not verify her eligibility. All I know is that she received mail-in ballots at what was then our address for years after she had left. I'm done with you now.
Don’t engage him. He is a rude, unpleasant, lonely troll. Go to his home, notice he doesn’t subscribe to any accounts on the page click the three dots and he is gone.
At least the Brit had a heartbeat and arguably an active EEG.