I've come to the point where I think that maybe immigrants are better... that maybe they haven't been infected with this post-modern cultural insanity that has grabbed us. Having crossed the seas or the desert to get here maybe they have a bit more appreciation for reality.
I've come to the point where I think that maybe immigrants are better... that maybe they haven't been infected with this post-modern cultural insanity that has grabbed us. Having crossed the seas or the desert to get here maybe they have a bit more appreciation for reality.
But most of them haven't. They've stumped up tens of thousands to get to you from shitholes and are generally the best the shitholes have to offer. Why do you think those places are shitholes in the first place? A Dem migrates from Cali to Texas; what is the Texan's fear, what is the first thing the Texan says to a Californicator? "Don't turn my state into a shithole like the state you fled." And you want to say yes to folk from even bigger shitholes?
More appreciation for reality? Sure, their horrible reality; they know it well. (I wonder what story they have been sold about USA?) I hope they see any helping hand USA gives as help, not handout. Handouts create a culture of dependency. And let's not ignore the human trafficking of immigrants.
Don't be so sure of that. I noted elsewhere on this thread that I was just on a NJ Transit train into NYC. English not spoken. Behavior atrocious. The evidence to your point is that our native born minorities act even worse. But we have only our own "tolerance" and racism to blame for failing to enforce longstanding social and legal norms that made America a special place.
That's ok Lee. I stand 100% behind Theodore Roosevelt's statement on what it means to be an American and how we should treat those who would cast their lot with us. I think I am in good company there. One of our greatest Presidents. A man in full.
Oh they still make them. Problem is we don't honor them.
If we did, those nitwits at the Natural History Museum would not have removed TR's statue. Lilliputian nothings, assailing a dead giant. They so lacked courage they had to wait a century after his death. Cowardly dogs. Nothing more.
Yep - The real culprit is the museum itself for not having the cajones to tell the far out progressives to f*ck off. Keep the statue up under armed guard.
We have always had a criminal element among immigrants. It’s nothing new. In the crowded tenements & on the streets English wasn’t the language of choice. It was the language of necessity.
Yes, I've seen MANY instances of immigrants coming to the US whose children often EXCEL with schooling etc. Heading that list lately is Nigeria, closely followed by China, Japan et al.
Then along comes the second generation - who are now Americanized and jump on the POC bandwagon.
The failure of low expectations. Some people believe that black kids are not capable of following rules and orderly behavior so we don't bother. Sorry but I reject that as racist. They are and they can. If we let white kids run wild and act like animals they'd do the same thing. Cracking heads of miscreants isn't racist. It's common sense.
I spent 2003-2012 in Philadelphia and Westchester County, commuting into Manhattan 2-3 times a week. Returning to Atlanta, which is heavily impacted by immigration--the second oldest city in suburban Gwinnett County is 45% Hispanic--I had a new appreciation for sprawl. Close quarters intensify negative behaviors.
Campesinos with little socialization into our ways and holding no allegiance to them or our country a recipe for chaos and disaster. The wet dream of one world Democrats. Madness.
I've come to the point where I think that maybe immigrants are better... that maybe they haven't been infected with this post-modern cultural insanity that has grabbed us. Having crossed the seas or the desert to get here maybe they have a bit more appreciation for reality.
But most of them haven't. They've stumped up tens of thousands to get to you from shitholes and are generally the best the shitholes have to offer. Why do you think those places are shitholes in the first place? A Dem migrates from Cali to Texas; what is the Texan's fear, what is the first thing the Texan says to a Californicator? "Don't turn my state into a shithole like the state you fled." And you want to say yes to folk from even bigger shitholes?
More appreciation for reality? Sure, their horrible reality; they know it well. (I wonder what story they have been sold about USA?) I hope they see any helping hand USA gives as help, not handout. Handouts create a culture of dependency. And let's not ignore the human trafficking of immigrants.
The federal government is one of the traffickers. If you have any doubt read where some of the unattended minors are ending up.
Don't be so sure of that. I noted elsewhere on this thread that I was just on a NJ Transit train into NYC. English not spoken. Behavior atrocious. The evidence to your point is that our native born minorities act even worse. But we have only our own "tolerance" and racism to blame for failing to enforce longstanding social and legal norms that made America a special place.
Perhaps we should segregate these ‘atrocious’ immigrants who won’t speak English and put them on cars at the back of the train..
Just riffin’ with you, Bruce..
That's ok Lee. I stand 100% behind Theodore Roosevelt's statement on what it means to be an American and how we should treat those who would cast their lot with us. I think I am in good company there. One of our greatest Presidents. A man in full.
Of that sir, I agree. I don’t think they make men like that anymore.
Oh they still make them. Problem is we don't honor them.
If we did, those nitwits at the Natural History Museum would not have removed TR's statue. Lilliputian nothings, assailing a dead giant. They so lacked courage they had to wait a century after his death. Cowardly dogs. Nothing more.
Yep - The real culprit is the museum itself for not having the cajones to tell the far out progressives to f*ck off. Keep the statue up under armed guard.
We have always had a criminal element among immigrants. It’s nothing new. In the crowded tenements & on the streets English wasn’t the language of choice. It was the language of necessity.
Yes, I've seen MANY instances of immigrants coming to the US whose children often EXCEL with schooling etc. Heading that list lately is Nigeria, closely followed by China, Japan et al.
Then along comes the second generation - who are now Americanized and jump on the POC bandwagon.
second gen is the worst. bunch of whiners.
I'm not sure I follow your comment that our racism is to blame for failing to enforce....The current trend is to call it racist TO enforce....
The failure of low expectations. Some people believe that black kids are not capable of following rules and orderly behavior so we don't bother. Sorry but I reject that as racist. They are and they can. If we let white kids run wild and act like animals they'd do the same thing. Cracking heads of miscreants isn't racist. It's common sense.
I spent 2003-2012 in Philadelphia and Westchester County, commuting into Manhattan 2-3 times a week. Returning to Atlanta, which is heavily impacted by immigration--the second oldest city in suburban Gwinnett County is 45% Hispanic--I had a new appreciation for sprawl. Close quarters intensify negative behaviors.
Campesinos with little socialization into our ways and holding no allegiance to them or our country a recipe for chaos and disaster. The wet dream of one world Democrats. Madness.
I believe the notion of Latino immigrants all becoming future D voters is seriously flawed, particularly in the second generation.
Many have first-hand experience of the downstream consequences of collectivization.
What frustrates me is that a few minor tweaks in R messaging could lock in this block for the next 30 years.
But we cannot let people stroll into America. They have to follow rules and demonstrate a rudimentary knowledge of our language and culture.
Oh I agree 100%. The point was if the reason for low border enforcement is future voting demographics I believe they have miscalculated.
If that is the reason. There are other possibilities I’m considering currently without hopefully straying into conspiracy cuckoo land.