She’s made real and positive changes to the world. I hope people can let up a bit and give her some credit! Helping get girls out of Afghanistan is epic.
Well you sure got a lot of people to come here and say, "I don't care about an interview with KK!"
If that were really true, then why would they bother to read/listen to the interview, let alone post something?
Please keep interviewing interesting and important people, and don't listen to these haters who have rigid expectations of the type of people you should or should not interview.
I'm in my 40's, so I basically missed the entire Kardashian family's burgeoning empire 20 years ago. I wasn't so dumb as to think Kim was an airhead (although her voice can lead you to that conclusion) because I simply don't think she's given enough credit for her business acumen. But I've never watched the show or paid much attention to the family except to note that they seemed exceptionally close and that seemed genuine. And also that Kim was playing 4D chess in the marketing of herself during the rise of social media while the rest of us were playing checkers. She basically invented the social media influencer game, and you have to admire her ambition and tenacity while at the same time admit (sex video aside) that she's basically stayed above the fray. For all the drama and negativity you hear about celebrities (and often their horrible Twitter/Instagram political takes), you really don't hear that from her. She's busy making money, son!
However, I was absolutely surprised to see her burgeoning involvement and interest in justice (actual justice, not social justice) issues, and her support of Alice Johnson's case. That is the BEST kind of influencing--she knew Ivanka, who brought her to Jared, who got her to Trump. And positive shit happened. And it's continued to happen, and that was one of the best parts about Trump's presidency (the First Step Act and everything related). And I don't care how you feel about her (or even Trump), that's impressive. So I think it's great she passed the baby bar (and was honest about not passing it multiple times) and wants to get into law. Will she be successful? Not sure, but good for her for mixing it up when she's arguably one of the most successful women in the world and could rest on her laurels.
I thought the interview was great, fair, and not at all condescending (which often happens when people speak of/to Kim K.) I don't know--I just liked her.
I think what's disapointing here is that although it's too easy to be dismissive of Kim Kardashian, and maybe she isn't "as bad" as she presents, this interview doesn't reveal much. She comes across as very fluffy - very LA - "I try to focus on the positive"; it's important to use my fame to 'make a difference'" etc, - it's all so superficial.
The Alica Johnson case is a good example. The way it's spoken about in the interview is so one-dimensional and "positive", when the reality is much more nuanced. Drugs are a huge economic boon to certain sectors of society, while extremely destructive. (Let's talk about THAT.)
Kim's narrative on who Alice Johnson was and how the system functions was just utterly reductive.
Seems like even shallow people need to do meaningful work - no matter how much modern society hollows out the culture, a human being has a need to go beyond the self. Even Kim Kardashian. That's my take-away.
This interview was so beneath you, Bari. I had never watched the Kardashian reality show and never heard Kim speak before, so I decided to have an open mind and listen to this interview. After doing so, I came to the conclusion that she is nearly as vapid as the stereotype of her suggests. And to top it off,, the interview was extremely BORING. Bari, you have built enormous goodwill with your subscribers because we trust your judgment and believe you to be a serious journalist. Please don't squander your reputation with more interviews like this one.
Sincere? Possibly. Interesting? Not to me. Intelligent? Definitely not an intellectual, but certainly a great businessperson. Mike Lindell is too, but I wouldn't characterize him as intelligent.
Kardashian - being famous for doing absolutely nothing. How does that work exactly? Who the hell knows. Maybe our 45th President. He might. But that's what social media in the 21st century has brought about. This is a fawning interview with someone who deserves zero attention. Very disappointed.
On the heels of the Amanda Knox piece, I am disappointed that Bari stooped to cover this particular celebrity. I found all KK's comments about good parenting to be quite fake.
I respect you covering a range of topics but you let her off the hook way too much in this interview....you came across as very starstruck and "fan girling". Which is your right but perhaps beneath your usual hard hitting approach.
I appreciate that KK has matured and is using her famous-for-being-famous status to help people she's read about on the internet. I also appreciate that BW is fangirling here and probably had a lot of fun with this interview. But, ugh, I can read about KK pretty much anywhere if I wanted to. So now I have KK in my head, which isn't doing me much good in terms of thinking through sticky problems or learning something new.
(I think people who have something to lose by taking a stand are more interesting to read about ... KK is Too Big to Fail, so the stake are low. Of course she "doesn't care what people think," because she doesn't really need to, and she'll still be raking in the $$$ no matter what.)
Congratulations, Kim Kardashian, for passing the Baby Bar and for using your power to help reform the US criminal justice system. These are admirable projects for you during the second half of your life. I know your late father would be proud to learn his daughter is following in his footsteps.
I'd like to direct your attention to another serious issue in the criminal justice system, one that needs your help and expertise. You, of all women, are uniquely qualified due to your public platform, your tenacity, your courage, your willingness to take on controversial projects, your growing knowledge of the US legal system, your California citizenship, your family background, and your strong interest in protecting the rights of women, especially incarcerated women, the most powerless women in the US. If you became involved, you would help not only the incarcerated women of California, but incarcerated women throughout the US and in other countries, too.
This issue is California's SB132, the state bill that now allows any biological male inmate in a California jail or prison to self identify as the opposite sex and transfer into the women's facility where he will share a cell with female inmates. During the past 12 months, three hundred men, many with intact penises, have transferred into women's jails and prisons. There is absolutely no requirement that these biological men have undergone genital surgery, take female hormones, or even self present as the opposite sex. Some male inmates have cynically used SB132 to gain unfettered access to biological women. As you might expect, biological women inmates are terrified because most of these men are physically powerful and some have been convicted of violent crimes including murder, rape and child sexual abuse.
Some female inmates have already been beaten and raped by their biological male cellmates. The situation is so dire, the prison staff now routinely distributes condoms and instructions on how to secure an abortion to all biological women inmates. To add insult to injury, biological women inmates, relatively few of whom are in for violent offenses, are not allowed to complain about being locked in their cell with a potentially violent biological man. The women who do complain are labeled "transphobes" and are subjected to longer sentences. So these terrified women must suffer in silence.
But you, Kim Kardashian, can be the voice for these voiceless women. You can help restore women's private spaces in California's jails and prisons. You can help prevent California's abhorrent policy from becoming the law of the land. There are now approximately two million prisoners in the US, two hundred thousand of whom are biological women who would be at risk. You have the power and the platform to protect these women. To turn this unconscionable situation around.
There is absolutely no reason to place biological women at increased risk of beatings, rape, and pregnancy to protect a subcategory of biological men who could be protected in other ways. One men's prison in California has long had a separate section for gay men and men who claim to be the opposite sex. This facility was grandfathered in, even though it now violates California state law. There is no rational reason why we couldn't set up similar sections in every men's jail or prison throughout California and the rest of the country.
If you would like to learn more about this issue, please contact WoLF, the Women's Liberation Front, an organization that is fighting for women's rights, including the right to women's private spaces in jails and prisons. WoLF is now suing the CDCR (California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation) on behalf of four women inmates and the Women II Women advocacy group to restore single sex prisons in California. I know WoLF and the many thousands of biological women inmates in California would be eternally grateful for whatever help and support you can provide.
You say Bill SB132 will let any biological male inmate with intact penises who self-identify as the opposite sex to transfer into a woman's facility where they will share a cell with a female inmate; you make it sound as though there are no requirements, is that correct?
Yes. That's correct. In California, any biological male inmate can self-declare himself to be a "woman," and he will be transferred into the woman's jail or prison and share his cell with one or more female inmates. Outrageous, isn't it?
What I wrote before is correct. "There is absolutely no requirement that these biological men have undergone genital surgery, take female hormones, or even self present as the opposite sex."
I asked you, "you make it sound as though there are no requirements, is that correct?", There are requirements, maybe not the ones that you want, but there are requirements! Inmates of whatever sex can't simply say they want to be housed with a specific gender; there are requirements.
Who will decide if an incarcerated person in the house based on their gender identity
"All requests for housing based on gender identity will be reviewed by a multi-disciplinary classification committee chaired by the Warden and made up of custody, medical and mental health care staff, and a PREA Compliance Manager. This committee will review all case factors and the individual’s history to make a recommendation for approval or disapproval of the request. If approved, the incarcerated person will be transferred to a male or female Reception Center consistent with their gender identity. If disapproved, notification is given to the incarcerated person who has up to 30 days to grieve the decision. If grieved, it will be referred to the Departmental Review Board for a decision regarding housing in a male or female institution. If there is new information, the request will be reevaluated by the classification committee."
The self serving myth of "gender identity" is a claptrap of inane nonsense, a boatload of pseudoscience bunk, the biggest hoax ever perpetrated on an unsuspecting public by a rabid group of autogynephile billionaires and their activist minions.
Any rational adult who has managed to resist the relentless onslaught of propaganda over the past few years will tell you there are only two sexes of human beings, biological males and biological females. For obvious reasons, no biological male inmate, no matter what preposterous "gender flavor" he claims to be, should ever be housed inside a locked prison cell with a biological female.
Let a million fragrant flowers bloom to warm the cockles of your inclusive heart.
First time I feel like I wasted my money joining . feeding people this crap is so below the standard expected
The picture says it all. Aristocrats breathe freely. Serfs are gagged for the amusement and pleasure of the aristocrats.
Yawn…
She’s made real and positive changes to the world. I hope people can let up a bit and give her some credit! Helping get girls out of Afghanistan is epic.
I heard somewhere that eventually influencer will be more valuable than even money. Watch out Soros, you may have it all wrong. :)
Well you sure got a lot of people to come here and say, "I don't care about an interview with KK!"
If that were really true, then why would they bother to read/listen to the interview, let alone post something?
Please keep interviewing interesting and important people, and don't listen to these haters who have rigid expectations of the type of people you should or should not interview.
Bari you have magical powers. You managed to make me like Kim Kardashian.
I'm in my 40's, so I basically missed the entire Kardashian family's burgeoning empire 20 years ago. I wasn't so dumb as to think Kim was an airhead (although her voice can lead you to that conclusion) because I simply don't think she's given enough credit for her business acumen. But I've never watched the show or paid much attention to the family except to note that they seemed exceptionally close and that seemed genuine. And also that Kim was playing 4D chess in the marketing of herself during the rise of social media while the rest of us were playing checkers. She basically invented the social media influencer game, and you have to admire her ambition and tenacity while at the same time admit (sex video aside) that she's basically stayed above the fray. For all the drama and negativity you hear about celebrities (and often their horrible Twitter/Instagram political takes), you really don't hear that from her. She's busy making money, son!
However, I was absolutely surprised to see her burgeoning involvement and interest in justice (actual justice, not social justice) issues, and her support of Alice Johnson's case. That is the BEST kind of influencing--she knew Ivanka, who brought her to Jared, who got her to Trump. And positive shit happened. And it's continued to happen, and that was one of the best parts about Trump's presidency (the First Step Act and everything related). And I don't care how you feel about her (or even Trump), that's impressive. So I think it's great she passed the baby bar (and was honest about not passing it multiple times) and wants to get into law. Will she be successful? Not sure, but good for her for mixing it up when she's arguably one of the most successful women in the world and could rest on her laurels.
I thought the interview was great, fair, and not at all condescending (which often happens when people speak of/to Kim K.) I don't know--I just liked her.
Me too. Kim K. sounds like an intelligent, thoughtful person who has not let her wealth and success go to her head.
I think what's disapointing here is that although it's too easy to be dismissive of Kim Kardashian, and maybe she isn't "as bad" as she presents, this interview doesn't reveal much. She comes across as very fluffy - very LA - "I try to focus on the positive"; it's important to use my fame to 'make a difference'" etc, - it's all so superficial.
The Alica Johnson case is a good example. The way it's spoken about in the interview is so one-dimensional and "positive", when the reality is much more nuanced. Drugs are a huge economic boon to certain sectors of society, while extremely destructive. (Let's talk about THAT.)
Kim's narrative on who Alice Johnson was and how the system functions was just utterly reductive.
Seems like even shallow people need to do meaningful work - no matter how much modern society hollows out the culture, a human being has a need to go beyond the self. Even Kim Kardashian. That's my take-away.
excellent commentary!
This interview was so beneath you, Bari. I had never watched the Kardashian reality show and never heard Kim speak before, so I decided to have an open mind and listen to this interview. After doing so, I came to the conclusion that she is nearly as vapid as the stereotype of her suggests. And to top it off,, the interview was extremely BORING. Bari, you have built enormous goodwill with your subscribers because we trust your judgment and believe you to be a serious journalist. Please don't squander your reputation with more interviews like this one.
Hm, I came to the opposite conclusion. Kim came across to me as interesting, sincere, and intelligent.
Sincere? Possibly. Interesting? Not to me. Intelligent? Definitely not an intellectual, but certainly a great businessperson. Mike Lindell is too, but I wouldn't characterize him as intelligent.
Kardashian - being famous for doing absolutely nothing. How does that work exactly? Who the hell knows. Maybe our 45th President. He might. But that's what social media in the 21st century has brought about. This is a fawning interview with someone who deserves zero attention. Very disappointed.
On the heels of the Amanda Knox piece, I am disappointed that Bari stooped to cover this particular celebrity. I found all KK's comments about good parenting to be quite fake.
I respect you covering a range of topics but you let her off the hook way too much in this interview....you came across as very starstruck and "fan girling". Which is your right but perhaps beneath your usual hard hitting approach.
Came here to stay this! Big fan of her and you but this seemed pointless and was a bit boring. Still wearing my “#1 Bari Fan” shirt though!
Absolutely spot on interview! Thank you for your professionalism when you conduct these interviews much appreciated and a breath of fresh air!
I appreciate that KK has matured and is using her famous-for-being-famous status to help people she's read about on the internet. I also appreciate that BW is fangirling here and probably had a lot of fun with this interview. But, ugh, I can read about KK pretty much anywhere if I wanted to. So now I have KK in my head, which isn't doing me much good in terms of thinking through sticky problems or learning something new.
(I think people who have something to lose by taking a stand are more interesting to read about ... KK is Too Big to Fail, so the stake are low. Of course she "doesn't care what people think," because she doesn't really need to, and she'll still be raking in the $$$ no matter what.)
My exact thought whenever said that. But she really does care otherwise she wouldn't keep courting the attention through the shows ....
Congratulations, Kim Kardashian, for passing the Baby Bar and for using your power to help reform the US criminal justice system. These are admirable projects for you during the second half of your life. I know your late father would be proud to learn his daughter is following in his footsteps.
I'd like to direct your attention to another serious issue in the criminal justice system, one that needs your help and expertise. You, of all women, are uniquely qualified due to your public platform, your tenacity, your courage, your willingness to take on controversial projects, your growing knowledge of the US legal system, your California citizenship, your family background, and your strong interest in protecting the rights of women, especially incarcerated women, the most powerless women in the US. If you became involved, you would help not only the incarcerated women of California, but incarcerated women throughout the US and in other countries, too.
This issue is California's SB132, the state bill that now allows any biological male inmate in a California jail or prison to self identify as the opposite sex and transfer into the women's facility where he will share a cell with female inmates. During the past 12 months, three hundred men, many with intact penises, have transferred into women's jails and prisons. There is absolutely no requirement that these biological men have undergone genital surgery, take female hormones, or even self present as the opposite sex. Some male inmates have cynically used SB132 to gain unfettered access to biological women. As you might expect, biological women inmates are terrified because most of these men are physically powerful and some have been convicted of violent crimes including murder, rape and child sexual abuse.
Some female inmates have already been beaten and raped by their biological male cellmates. The situation is so dire, the prison staff now routinely distributes condoms and instructions on how to secure an abortion to all biological women inmates. To add insult to injury, biological women inmates, relatively few of whom are in for violent offenses, are not allowed to complain about being locked in their cell with a potentially violent biological man. The women who do complain are labeled "transphobes" and are subjected to longer sentences. So these terrified women must suffer in silence.
But you, Kim Kardashian, can be the voice for these voiceless women. You can help restore women's private spaces in California's jails and prisons. You can help prevent California's abhorrent policy from becoming the law of the land. There are now approximately two million prisoners in the US, two hundred thousand of whom are biological women who would be at risk. You have the power and the platform to protect these women. To turn this unconscionable situation around.
There is absolutely no reason to place biological women at increased risk of beatings, rape, and pregnancy to protect a subcategory of biological men who could be protected in other ways. One men's prison in California has long had a separate section for gay men and men who claim to be the opposite sex. This facility was grandfathered in, even though it now violates California state law. There is no rational reason why we couldn't set up similar sections in every men's jail or prison throughout California and the rest of the country.
If you would like to learn more about this issue, please contact WoLF, the Women's Liberation Front, an organization that is fighting for women's rights, including the right to women's private spaces in jails and prisons. WoLF is now suing the CDCR (California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation) on behalf of four women inmates and the Women II Women advocacy group to restore single sex prisons in California. I know WoLF and the many thousands of biological women inmates in California would be eternally grateful for whatever help and support you can provide.
Godspeed to you and your budding legal career.
https://www.womensliberationfront.org/womens-prisons
You say Bill SB132 will let any biological male inmate with intact penises who self-identify as the opposite sex to transfer into a woman's facility where they will share a cell with a female inmate; you make it sound as though there are no requirements, is that correct?
Yes. That's correct. In California, any biological male inmate can self-declare himself to be a "woman," and he will be transferred into the woman's jail or prison and share his cell with one or more female inmates. Outrageous, isn't it?
Are you giving out false information deliberately or out of ignorance?
What I wrote before is correct. "There is absolutely no requirement that these biological men have undergone genital surgery, take female hormones, or even self present as the opposite sex."
Seasons greetings!
I asked you, "you make it sound as though there are no requirements, is that correct?", There are requirements, maybe not the ones that you want, but there are requirements! Inmates of whatever sex can't simply say they want to be housed with a specific gender; there are requirements.
Who will decide if an incarcerated person in the house based on their gender identity
"All requests for housing based on gender identity will be reviewed by a multi-disciplinary classification committee chaired by the Warden and made up of custody, medical and mental health care staff, and a PREA Compliance Manager. This committee will review all case factors and the individual’s history to make a recommendation for approval or disapproval of the request. If approved, the incarcerated person will be transferred to a male or female Reception Center consistent with their gender identity. If disapproved, notification is given to the incarcerated person who has up to 30 days to grieve the decision. If grieved, it will be referred to the Departmental Review Board for a decision regarding housing in a male or female institution. If there is new information, the request will be reevaluated by the classification committee."
https://www.cdcr.ca.gov/prea/sb-132-faqs/
May love and happiness surround you and your loved ones.
The self serving myth of "gender identity" is a claptrap of inane nonsense, a boatload of pseudoscience bunk, the biggest hoax ever perpetrated on an unsuspecting public by a rabid group of autogynephile billionaires and their activist minions.
Any rational adult who has managed to resist the relentless onslaught of propaganda over the past few years will tell you there are only two sexes of human beings, biological males and biological females. For obvious reasons, no biological male inmate, no matter what preposterous "gender flavor" he claims to be, should ever be housed inside a locked prison cell with a biological female.
Let a million fragrant flowers bloom to warm the cockles of your inclusive heart.
right on