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Allison Gilliland's avatar

I always wonder what people are referring to when they report, ‘ Donald Trump is a liar. That we know.’ What are these lies, and are they of consequence to the union?

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Chris's avatar

Every day from Nov 8 , 2020 to Jan 6 2021, every time Trump said the election was stolen due to fraud (as opposed to media bias) he was either wrong or lying or both. Every time he opened his mouth during the height of COVID, misinformation based on ignorance and blatant self servitude came out of his mouth. Nearly every time he says he had the 'most beautiful' this or that, he's lying. He also is unfit to be President of the United States, just for very different reasons.

Yes- they are very consequential.

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T. Black's avatar

Many of the COVID lies came from CDC, WHO, Fauci, the teachers unions, et al.

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Chris's avatar

True - the country was failed on so many levels and NYC by its governor. And also by Trump.

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Allison Gilliland's avatar

Those are all examples of opinion statements, not lies. It’s okay to have different opinions.

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Chris's avatar

Well, the election fraud allegations are demonstrably false. And he said demonstrably false things about and during COVID.

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Gray's avatar

Completely.

If you believe something to be true, and you say it, are you lying?

Who cares if he says something is "the most beautiful" - he's exaggerating - they all do it. Half of the stuff that comes out of Biden's mouth is a lie. - he tells untruths constantly - stories and facts that are not true at all. No one says a word. They are politicians - they all lie.

But only Trump is the "biggest liar of all"... I am so sick of it. I am not a Trump fan, but the treatment of him by the corporate press and the Democratic machine is so obvious. They are after him because he is a disrupter and is messing with the unelected elite powers.

https://sharylattkisson.com/2024/06/50-media-mistakes-in-the-trump-era-the-definitive-list/

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Chris's avatar

Not calling Trump the biggest liar of all. Someone asked what lies Trump told and I provided examples. And I care if he exaggerates. Same with Biden.

In the case of Trump believing the election was stolen due to fraud (as opposed to media bias) that's been proven to be false. He's still saying it so either he's lying or he's delusional: I'll let you choose.

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Gray's avatar

I didn't mean that you individually were.

I meant Eli and the corporate media and the Democratic machine. And even the RINOs, who hate him.

He is a bull in a china shop. He's a bombastic real estate developer and reality TV star. He is disrupting the uniparty and they can't have that. 2016 upset their whole apple cart. Now we see behind the curtain that most of us have known was there all along.

He's still saying it because that's what he believes happened. And there were indeed many irregularities and questionable things that happened, mostly in pivotal states. That has also been proven. Whether it was enough to swing an election, we will probably never know. But it's clear he thinks so.

There's a whole lot more nuance to the discussion, than "either he's lying or he's delusional." There are a whole lot more choices to pick from.

And the last four years have taught us that today's conspiracy nut is tomorrow's truth teller....

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