"you can't carpet bomb civilians for months and refuse to permit aid to those civilians and not expect recourse. It's sad that so many otherwise intelligent people are so stuck in their ideological camp."
Are you REALLY REALLY sure you want to go with that?
Because someone is going to ask you for sources about carpet bombing and permitting…
"you can't carpet bomb civilians for months and refuse to permit aid to those civilians and not expect recourse. It's sad that so many otherwise intelligent people are so stuck in their ideological camp."
Are you REALLY REALLY sure you want to go with that?
Because someone is going to ask you for sources about carpet bombing and permitting aid.
On the subject of aid, guess who get most of that aid? (Hint) Its the guys with the guns.
"sources about carpet bombing and permitting aid."
I wasn't aware that these statements are controversial to anyone with two eyes and a brain. Refusal to accept these undeniable truths is right up there with Palestinian supporters who refuse to accept that Hamas slaughtered/raped civilians and took hostages.
I often wonder about something. If Gaza has approximately 300 miles of tunnels, why doesn't Hamas let the innocent women and children hide down there and come out and fight the IDF man to man?
They are The Shields. Hamas WANTS lots of civilian casualties. Understand there is very little difference between Hamas and Al-Qa‘ida. They both come from the same source. Hassan al-Banna founding The Muslim Brotherhood in 1928.
A Good source for Laypersons is Lawrence Wright's "The Looming Tower: Al-Qaeda and the Road to 9/11"
When someone makes a (controversial) statement like you did, I ask for sources. Why did you say The Israelis Carpet Bombing Gaza and not allowing aid in? Why did you say that, where did you get that? Reasonable questions. So far, No answer. Which leads me to think You don't have any ie making this up.
Except there is nothing controversial about it. Even Israel says as much.
If you want to have a serious conversation, then please do so. But don't be disingenuous. Simply disregarding the facts on the ground because it doesn't fit your simple us-vs-them narrative isn't serious.
Put another way: it would at least be reasonable to debate whether Israel has the right to kill 10's of thousands of civilians through heavy bombardment (which all sides agree they have done) and close off the borders to significant aide (which again, all sides agree they have done) ... and then debate the reasons thereof. But simply saying "no they didn't do what they even said they did" isn't serious.
"you can't carpet bomb civilians for months and refuse to permit aid to those civilians and not expect recourse. It's sad that so many otherwise intelligent people are so stuck in their ideological camp."
Are you REALLY REALLY sure you want to go with that?
Because someone is going to ask you for sources about carpet bombing and permitting aid.
On the subject of aid, guess who get most of that aid? (Hint) Its the guys with the guns.
"sources about carpet bombing and permitting aid."
I wasn't aware that these statements are controversial to anyone with two eyes and a brain. Refusal to accept these undeniable truths is right up there with Palestinian supporters who refuse to accept that Hamas slaughtered/raped civilians and took hostages.
I often wonder about something. If Gaza has approximately 300 miles of tunnels, why doesn't Hamas let the innocent women and children hide down there and come out and fight the IDF man to man?
They are The Shields. Hamas WANTS lots of civilian casualties. Understand there is very little difference between Hamas and Al-Qa‘ida. They both come from the same source. Hassan al-Banna founding The Muslim Brotherhood in 1928.
A Good source for Laypersons is Lawrence Wright's "The Looming Tower: Al-Qaeda and the Road to 9/11"
Except Neither (Carpet Bombing or not allowing aid), is True.
I await sources that they are true.
You do that. Those blind to their own side's atrocities always do.
When someone makes a (controversial) statement like you did, I ask for sources. Why did you say The Israelis Carpet Bombing Gaza and not allowing aid in? Why did you say that, where did you get that? Reasonable questions. So far, No answer. Which leads me to think You don't have any ie making this up.
Except there is nothing controversial about it. Even Israel says as much.
If you want to have a serious conversation, then please do so. But don't be disingenuous. Simply disregarding the facts on the ground because it doesn't fit your simple us-vs-them narrative isn't serious.
Put another way: it would at least be reasonable to debate whether Israel has the right to kill 10's of thousands of civilians through heavy bombardment (which all sides agree they have done) and close off the borders to significant aide (which again, all sides agree they have done) ... and then debate the reasons thereof. But simply saying "no they didn't do what they even said they did" isn't serious.
What Part of "Give Me A Source" don't you understand?
So not serious. Ok - cool! You have a good one.
Because Hamas is a terrorist organization. Nothing I said disproves that statement.