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Gotta admit I lean towards the pro-American dream side on this topic, but the debaters on this side didn't really argue their point well. Most Americans see the American dream as the ability to achieve a good secure middle-class lifestyle; Tyler Cowen was too busy arguing about side-points and even included 'trans rights' in the American dream. Granted, I found it funny that the negative side at one point argued about all of the social ills plaguing America e.g. fatherlessness etc. considering liberal (and libertarian) policies and worldviews are the greatest creators of such social ills.

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