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Bari- you ask a very important question, softly, quietly, - I'll paraphrase here from what I remember but - you ask her something that is baffling us all, why when our Western Society lives so well, has so much opportunity, more combined then many of the civilizations before us, is there so much despondence, depression and desire to protest the values that give opportunities to the most amount of people possible...A desire to tear down, instead of keep deepening the culture and building on what we have.

Then I was standing in the bathroom, where I do all my best thinking, and this song came to mind, I think it sums up what is happening here in our Western Cultures and can help us to understand why this is so important to the brilliant Kemi:

"Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got til' its gone. They paved paradise and put up a parking lot, mmm bop bop bop."

Its simplistic yes, but I believe its possible, that human beings are wildly flawed in that safety quickly becomes stagnation if there is no purpose. And some purpose even if misguided feels better then no purpose. I fear that is what you are seeing in the Western Cultures on some levels. People always need something to fight for. It's part of human nature, or something to resist against. And this song rings true that maybe many people don't realize how bad it could actually be, and that our free society although imperfect is something worth fighting for at all cost. Thank you for this amazing interview. Let's keep our Free Paradise.

One more thing, having experienced that kind of Orwellian culture where everyone is brushed with one stroke, and gaslighting through phrases and words becomes the norm, like calling people "brother" or "sister" when they aren't even your friend -it is very easily recognizable when you see it happening around you, the condescending tone of "knowing better" or the subtle put down, of pretending people are unintelligent and uneducated is sickening and deplorable and has no place in our American society. .

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