Hard-lined Islamic countries just don't make any sense to me whatsoever. Yes, I'm an atheist, so I'm not a fan of any religion in particular. But, with Islam, don't ya just wake up everyday - look around and think - really? Just what in the hell is this getting us? Maybe 50-100 years ago ... but now ... when you can easily see the flouri…
Hard-lined Islamic countries just don't make any sense to me whatsoever. Yes, I'm an atheist, so I'm not a fan of any religion in particular. But, with Islam, don't ya just wake up everyday - look around and think - really? Just what in the hell is this getting us? Maybe 50-100 years ago ... but now ... when you can easily see the flourishing of other Western nations (relatively speaking), does the 'religion' aspect of Islam not just get a little tiring?
To an Islamist, the success of the West is an affront to the divine order prescribed in the Koran. According to the Koran, Islam should rule worldwide. And to that Islamist, the Koran is the direct word of Allah. For devout Muslims, it is a cause to rally around, to work to undermine the West and eventually replace it with an Islamic state.
You're making the classic 'we all want the same things' mistake that is common among Westerners who have been brought up with concepts like 'universal human rights'. Islamists are playing a very long game and are far more ruthless than the leftists they have co-opted. Those two factions brought about the Iranian revolution 45 years ago. Within 5 years the leftists had all been executed, exiled, or imprisoned by the Khomeini regime.
You're kind of missing the nuance behind what I said though. I completely understand the 'we all want the same things' mistake, but there underlines my point. Islamists *aren't* getting what they want, not by a long shot, and they're much further away from "replacing the West" in any significant capacity than they've ever been in the history of their religion. Yes - they still believe they're following the "divine order prescribed in the Koran (the direct word of Allah)". Yet, with all that cosmic 'power' behind their faith, they're still largely the backwoods of the world. Even the most adamant religious zealot (one would think) would look around after a while and start to question if this whole "Islam" thing is really what it's cracked up to be. Although, I think this same thing about my Christian friends, too.
Aw. I guess you weren't hung by your feet upside down and beaten for not doing well enough in your religious education at a madrassas. You didn't see relatives get together and kill a sibling or cousin for expressing wrong ideas. (Islam specifies that an apostate must be killed asap for their own good - it's compassion Islam style.)
Hard-lined Islamic countries just don't make any sense to me whatsoever. Yes, I'm an atheist, so I'm not a fan of any religion in particular. But, with Islam, don't ya just wake up everyday - look around and think - really? Just what in the hell is this getting us? Maybe 50-100 years ago ... but now ... when you can easily see the flourishing of other Western nations (relatively speaking), does the 'religion' aspect of Islam not just get a little tiring?
To an Islamist, the success of the West is an affront to the divine order prescribed in the Koran. According to the Koran, Islam should rule worldwide. And to that Islamist, the Koran is the direct word of Allah. For devout Muslims, it is a cause to rally around, to work to undermine the West and eventually replace it with an Islamic state.
You're making the classic 'we all want the same things' mistake that is common among Westerners who have been brought up with concepts like 'universal human rights'. Islamists are playing a very long game and are far more ruthless than the leftists they have co-opted. Those two factions brought about the Iranian revolution 45 years ago. Within 5 years the leftists had all been executed, exiled, or imprisoned by the Khomeini regime.
You're kind of missing the nuance behind what I said though. I completely understand the 'we all want the same things' mistake, but there underlines my point. Islamists *aren't* getting what they want, not by a long shot, and they're much further away from "replacing the West" in any significant capacity than they've ever been in the history of their religion. Yes - they still believe they're following the "divine order prescribed in the Koran (the direct word of Allah)". Yet, with all that cosmic 'power' behind their faith, they're still largely the backwoods of the world. Even the most adamant religious zealot (one would think) would look around after a while and start to question if this whole "Islam" thing is really what it's cracked up to be. Although, I think this same thing about my Christian friends, too.
Aw. I guess you weren't hung by your feet upside down and beaten for not doing well enough in your religious education at a madrassas. You didn't see relatives get together and kill a sibling or cousin for expressing wrong ideas. (Islam specifies that an apostate must be killed asap for their own good - it's compassion Islam style.)