MD, American Jews MUST take progressive action in November, and STOP voting Democrat! The Democrat Party today is NOT the Party of our grandparents, or even our parents!
Today’s WOKE Left Progressive Democrats are more concerned with DEI, CRT, BLM, LGBTQ alphabet X, PRONOUNS, etc., and whether our military has comfortable uniforms for pre…
MD, American Jews MUST take progressive action in November, and STOP voting Democrat! The Democrat Party today is NOT the Party of our grandparents, or even our parents!
Today’s WOKE Left Progressive Democrats are more concerned with DEI, CRT, BLM, LGBTQ alphabet X, PRONOUNS, etc., and whether our military has comfortable uniforms for pregnant fighter pilots. In fact, their main focus seems to be training our soldiers how to be more concerned with WOKE ideology than a strong military defense force to be reckoned with on the world stage.
I totally and sadly agree. The Democratic party has been seized by the dreadful ideology of wokism behind which the islamists are hiding . They do not care about people. They only care about being able to see themselves as on the good side of history. And I wonder how many jews are aware of the terrible danger looming around us in the quiet project of islamization of our democratic society , killing our democratic freedom from within. Who can deriously believe that the mobs that took to the street worldwide and to the campuses as soon as octobrr 8 had spontaneously gathered there , with a tide of flags and the same slogans ?
I agree, but it takes guts and American Jews are a squishy bunch. They desperately want acceptance and they want to believe in utopian fantasies of total equality.. . They experienced the Nazis from a distance, and they never experienced the Soviet antisemitism, or the Muslim version. You must remember that 70% of Isralie Jews are not of european origin, and they have a much more conservative and cynical,attitude.. They come from North African, or the Arab countries or Ethiopia, or IRAN or the central Asian republics and Russia. This population, understands the traditional Muslim mentality and treatment towards any kind of descent or opposition. This is why they will fight to the death for their freedom to worship and to live in a liberal democratic. and tolerant society..
Israeli safardi jews understand the arabs much better than Ashkenazi jews (easter europe). During the years when Israel was essentially governed by Ashkenazi jews and socialists, they have had many generous illusions . This is not to say they did not accomplish an extraordinary step in the construction of the state of minuscule Israel amid a very hostile environment.
I hope you are right. However I had the impression that the majority of today’s american jews were born from parents having left Europe and the soviet union after the end of the wae
You are right about the western origin of American Jews. These mainly arrived in the 1800’s, from central and Western Europe, including Germany, Poland, Austro - Hungarian empire, Portugal and Spain, long before WW1. Thus , well before the British and French mandates over Palestine were established. Israelite Jews are mostly native to Israel or refugees from other places that used to be part of Ottoman, Russian, and Persian empires. These include the Greece, the Turkic speaking Central Asian republics, such as Uzbekistan, and Kazakhstan, and also North African Magreb countries, Morocco and Egypt. Plus, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and other states in Arabic speakingMiddle East. There are even significant numbers from Ethiopia and Yemen. Thus the Jews of Israel are quite distinct and diverse, at least compared to those of N America.
Yes. However in 1939 three quarters of the world jewish population was in Europe and the majority of these were in USSR. After the end of WW2, the jews who had survived the holocaust went to America and western Europe , especially to France like myself in 1948 as a political refugee with my parents.
But there were small jewish communities scattered in the Ottoman Empire. Many came from Spain and Portugal after 1492
Don’t forget, the Jews that were stuck in Europe after the first war were all killed off. Only a few ever made it to Israel. There descendants are still around but they have a low birth rate and are vastly outnumbered .
In 1939 Europe had indeed an important Jewish community. France had the smaller proporion of jews being deported. In Belgium, Netherlant and Germany they were decomated as in Central Europe , Greece and Yougoslavia.
No mean the Jews were trapped in europe after the first war. During 20’s and 30’s, visas for jews to legally leave eastern europe for N. America were very difficult to get, and immigration to ‘palesine’ was also blocked by british policy. Some, like Einstein and other famous or wealthy persons got out in time to avoid the slaughter. So American Jews mainly arrived before 1914, very few who were in europe at outbreak of hostilities ever made it to North America. After 1948, it was still very difficult to get out of refugee camps in europe, except if destination was Israel. The immigration law in America did not change till the mid sixties.
You are absolutely right. I now recall that in 1938 in Evian (France, near Geneva) , Roosevelt had gathered an international conference that was supposed to deal with the problem of refugees, in fact essentially the german Jews trying to flee Austria and Germany. They congratulated one another. But no country accepted any Jew refugee. Not one, including the United States who had called for the conference.
MD, American Jews MUST take progressive action in November, and STOP voting Democrat! The Democrat Party today is NOT the Party of our grandparents, or even our parents!
Today’s WOKE Left Progressive Democrats are more concerned with DEI, CRT, BLM, LGBTQ alphabet X, PRONOUNS, etc., and whether our military has comfortable uniforms for pregnant fighter pilots. In fact, their main focus seems to be training our soldiers how to be more concerned with WOKE ideology than a strong military defense force to be reckoned with on the world stage.
I totally and sadly agree. The Democratic party has been seized by the dreadful ideology of wokism behind which the islamists are hiding . They do not care about people. They only care about being able to see themselves as on the good side of history. And I wonder how many jews are aware of the terrible danger looming around us in the quiet project of islamization of our democratic society , killing our democratic freedom from within. Who can deriously believe that the mobs that took to the street worldwide and to the campuses as soon as octobrr 8 had spontaneously gathered there , with a tide of flags and the same slogans ?
I agree, but it takes guts and American Jews are a squishy bunch. They desperately want acceptance and they want to believe in utopian fantasies of total equality.. . They experienced the Nazis from a distance, and they never experienced the Soviet antisemitism, or the Muslim version. You must remember that 70% of Isralie Jews are not of european origin, and they have a much more conservative and cynical,attitude.. They come from North African, or the Arab countries or Ethiopia, or IRAN or the central Asian republics and Russia. This population, understands the traditional Muslim mentality and treatment towards any kind of descent or opposition. This is why they will fight to the death for their freedom to worship and to live in a liberal democratic. and tolerant society..
Israeli safardi jews understand the arabs much better than Ashkenazi jews (easter europe). During the years when Israel was essentially governed by Ashkenazi jews and socialists, they have had many generous illusions . This is not to say they did not accomplish an extraordinary step in the construction of the state of minuscule Israel amid a very hostile environment.
I hope you are right. However I had the impression that the majority of today’s american jews were born from parents having left Europe and the soviet union after the end of the wae
You are right about the western origin of American Jews. These mainly arrived in the 1800’s, from central and Western Europe, including Germany, Poland, Austro - Hungarian empire, Portugal and Spain, long before WW1. Thus , well before the British and French mandates over Palestine were established. Israelite Jews are mostly native to Israel or refugees from other places that used to be part of Ottoman, Russian, and Persian empires. These include the Greece, the Turkic speaking Central Asian republics, such as Uzbekistan, and Kazakhstan, and also North African Magreb countries, Morocco and Egypt. Plus, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and other states in Arabic speakingMiddle East. There are even significant numbers from Ethiopia and Yemen. Thus the Jews of Israel are quite distinct and diverse, at least compared to those of N America.
Yes. However in 1939 three quarters of the world jewish population was in Europe and the majority of these were in USSR. After the end of WW2, the jews who had survived the holocaust went to America and western Europe , especially to France like myself in 1948 as a political refugee with my parents.
But there were small jewish communities scattered in the Ottoman Empire. Many came from Spain and Portugal after 1492
Don’t forget, the Jews that were stuck in Europe after the first war were all killed off. Only a few ever made it to Israel. There descendants are still around but they have a low birth rate and are vastly outnumbered .
In 1939 Europe had indeed an important Jewish community. France had the smaller proporion of jews being deported. In Belgium, Netherlant and Germany they were decomated as in Central Europe , Greece and Yougoslavia.
you mean after second world war I suppose.
No mean the Jews were trapped in europe after the first war. During 20’s and 30’s, visas for jews to legally leave eastern europe for N. America were very difficult to get, and immigration to ‘palesine’ was also blocked by british policy. Some, like Einstein and other famous or wealthy persons got out in time to avoid the slaughter. So American Jews mainly arrived before 1914, very few who were in europe at outbreak of hostilities ever made it to North America. After 1948, it was still very difficult to get out of refugee camps in europe, except if destination was Israel. The immigration law in America did not change till the mid sixties.
You are absolutely right. I now recall that in 1938 in Evian (France, near Geneva) , Roosevelt had gathered an international conference that was supposed to deal with the problem of refugees, in fact essentially the german Jews trying to flee Austria and Germany. They congratulated one another. But no country accepted any Jew refugee. Not one, including the United States who had called for the conference.