So, if you are not from an Ivy League school, is it worth applying for the fellowship? Seems like there are a lot of good college journalists from state schools.
These all sound like terrific kids. That said, they do exactly nothing to add diverse voices to The Free Press, as in voices outside of the wealthy urban elitist bubble. I know it will sound like a stretch to some of you Free Press folks, but there are a LOT of bright, capable kids at state universities and even community colleges. The difference is not talent or intelligence, but finances and pedigrees.
What do you mean by “diverse” voices? You may know that these individuals attend colleges that are considered by many to be “elite” but what else do you know about them? Is different skin color required to be considered a diverse voice. You don’t even know the socio-economic status of these individuals. Stay in this forum, you may learn a thing or two!
You clearly know nothing about me if you went straight to skin color and assumed I haven't been in this forum since the beginning. You're right. I don't know their financial backgrounds. I'll give you that. But as for diverse, not Ivy League would be a good start. When The Free Press hires a bright, talented kid from the University of New Mexico, then I'll take their efforts to diversify seriously. At this point, they are self-selecting.
I certainly don’t know anything about you-my point being that you don’t know much about those selected other than their college. That you are in this forum tells me something good about you. Anyway, the word “diversity” strikes a discordant chord with me. I want, “the best and the brightest”, rich or poor, Harvard or New Mexico. I write as a graduate of the City College of New York (1960), a U.S. Marine of low income immigrants. I trust The Free Press in making their selections and hope the word, “diversity” doesn’t enter into their calculations.
This is wonderful but with all the criticism the free press has had of the elite universities, I’m surprised that’s where all your fellows are from. Hoping you will include some non ivies next time around.
How wonderful for these young people to have this great journalistic experience! When I was young in the late 1950s I wanted to be a reporter. However, I was not allowed to go to journalism school by my father and was sent to college to study English literature and become a teacher or a librarian instead. It was not until I was retired and in my late 50s that I became a freelance reporter for a big city newspaper and saw two of my investigative stories hit the front page. Please think of extending your fellowships to older people who may have been unable to follow that career path earlier in life but may be willing to apprentice with The Free Press later in life.
I feel confident someone at theFP is reading these comments, I'm hopeful the caution they are advising, even if done so rudely, is heeded. It's a difficult thing to build what Bari has... not that difficult to lose your direction, especially with success
I was thrilled to read about the young people in journalism that The Free Press is mentoring into authentic free speech journalism. However, I was quite disappointed as I read their bios to see that the same institutions that are so often called out for being hot beds of elite and anti-free speech are the only institutions these young people come from. Brown, Stanford, Princeton and Columbia. I was hoping for a more diverse group of rising journalists from smaller less known institutions, actually expecting it. We as parents have specifically stayed far away from the elite institutions for our child as we desire less ideology and more independent thought. I would have thought The Free Press might desire to seek out young journalists from a broader base as well.
“Overnight, I was working with people who left their jobs at places like The New York Times and NPR and Vanity Fair”
As a politically unaffiliated reader who still has a NYT subscription (not for long) and used to listen to NPR, I find these former affiliations not thrilling at all. I understand that people working now at TFP have left their former “distinguished” employers when the lies and absurdities became too obvious, but they still have an obvious bias to the left . I do not expect or want them to become conservatives (which I am not), but sometimes their bias interferes with reporting of actual facts, undercuting the value of their journalism. Recent example in the latest TGIF: a major misrepresentation of the case of Amber Nicole Thurman, who died after 20 hours of not being helped by doctors. It took a post in the comments to find out what the real story was. Opinions are opinions, but misrepresenting facts is not acceptable. I hope young journalists at TFP have learned something from that.
I think the single biggest F.U. of the DEI movement is the idea that 'diversity' needs to focus on factors like skin color and gender preference.
That's how NPR ended up with a 'diverse' newsroom that included 87 Democrats and exactly 0 Republicans.
I get the sense this group, from an ideological standpoint, may be pretty diverse, actually. But the complete focus on 'elite coastal schools' is a real disappointment. People in flyover states have talent and opinions too - and my experience is they have way more commonsense.
My congratulations to the young writers, but FP publishing this article is tantamount to expecting subscribers to pay for looking at pictures of a stranger's grandchildren.
Wonderful! Good luck to all!
Julia is a rockstar and I would say that Paul Stanley’s face, as well as Billy Idol’s. I’m sure the other students are as well. 😀
So, if you are not from an Ivy League school, is it worth applying for the fellowship? Seems like there are a lot of good college journalists from state schools.
Nude baby bathing illegal: I think it is more of a "please don't feed our pedofiles" thing
These all sound like terrific kids. That said, they do exactly nothing to add diverse voices to The Free Press, as in voices outside of the wealthy urban elitist bubble. I know it will sound like a stretch to some of you Free Press folks, but there are a LOT of bright, capable kids at state universities and even community colleges. The difference is not talent or intelligence, but finances and pedigrees.
What do you mean by “diverse” voices? You may know that these individuals attend colleges that are considered by many to be “elite” but what else do you know about them? Is different skin color required to be considered a diverse voice. You don’t even know the socio-economic status of these individuals. Stay in this forum, you may learn a thing or two!
You clearly know nothing about me if you went straight to skin color and assumed I haven't been in this forum since the beginning. You're right. I don't know their financial backgrounds. I'll give you that. But as for diverse, not Ivy League would be a good start. When The Free Press hires a bright, talented kid from the University of New Mexico, then I'll take their efforts to diversify seriously. At this point, they are self-selecting.
I certainly don’t know anything about you-my point being that you don’t know much about those selected other than their college. That you are in this forum tells me something good about you. Anyway, the word “diversity” strikes a discordant chord with me. I want, “the best and the brightest”, rich or poor, Harvard or New Mexico. I write as a graduate of the City College of New York (1960), a U.S. Marine of low income immigrants. I trust The Free Press in making their selections and hope the word, “diversity” doesn’t enter into their calculations.
This is wonderful but with all the criticism the free press has had of the elite universities, I’m surprised that’s where all your fellows are from. Hoping you will include some non ivies next time around.
This article is restoring my faith in journalism.
Wonderful stories, do you ever recruit at non Ivy schools?
Thanks for renewing this former teacher’s faith in the coming generation of leaders. You represent our best hope for the future.
How wonderful for these young people to have this great journalistic experience! When I was young in the late 1950s I wanted to be a reporter. However, I was not allowed to go to journalism school by my father and was sent to college to study English literature and become a teacher or a librarian instead. It was not until I was retired and in my late 50s that I became a freelance reporter for a big city newspaper and saw two of my investigative stories hit the front page. Please think of extending your fellowships to older people who may have been unable to follow that career path earlier in life but may be willing to apprentice with The Free Press later in life.
I feel confident someone at theFP is reading these comments, I'm hopeful the caution they are advising, even if done so rudely, is heeded. It's a difficult thing to build what Bari has... not that difficult to lose your direction, especially with success
I was thrilled to read about the young people in journalism that The Free Press is mentoring into authentic free speech journalism. However, I was quite disappointed as I read their bios to see that the same institutions that are so often called out for being hot beds of elite and anti-free speech are the only institutions these young people come from. Brown, Stanford, Princeton and Columbia. I was hoping for a more diverse group of rising journalists from smaller less known institutions, actually expecting it. We as parents have specifically stayed far away from the elite institutions for our child as we desire less ideology and more independent thought. I would have thought The Free Press might desire to seek out young journalists from a broader base as well.
This is what I came here to say. Every single intern is from an ivy league school.
I’m a sub scriber and was not able to move past page 4 of the survey. I have no idea whether I will be counted.
“Overnight, I was working with people who left their jobs at places like The New York Times and NPR and Vanity Fair”
As a politically unaffiliated reader who still has a NYT subscription (not for long) and used to listen to NPR, I find these former affiliations not thrilling at all. I understand that people working now at TFP have left their former “distinguished” employers when the lies and absurdities became too obvious, but they still have an obvious bias to the left . I do not expect or want them to become conservatives (which I am not), but sometimes their bias interferes with reporting of actual facts, undercuting the value of their journalism. Recent example in the latest TGIF: a major misrepresentation of the case of Amber Nicole Thurman, who died after 20 hours of not being helped by doctors. It took a post in the comments to find out what the real story was. Opinions are opinions, but misrepresenting facts is not acceptable. I hope young journalists at TFP have learned something from that.
I think the single biggest F.U. of the DEI movement is the idea that 'diversity' needs to focus on factors like skin color and gender preference.
That's how NPR ended up with a 'diverse' newsroom that included 87 Democrats and exactly 0 Republicans.
I get the sense this group, from an ideological standpoint, may be pretty diverse, actually. But the complete focus on 'elite coastal schools' is a real disappointment. People in flyover states have talent and opinions too - and my experience is they have way more commonsense.
My congratulations to the young writers, but FP publishing this article is tantamount to expecting subscribers to pay for looking at pictures of a stranger's grandchildren.