I never said they moved solely because of the trans lunacy. I said that the trans lunacy coupled with the erosion of parental control over their progeny in multiple fora is one of the primary reasons they’ve decided to remain outside the country.
See: CA and WA.
So yes this subject absolutely is a major factor in their family calculus regarding whether and when to return.
If I had children that age, I would homeschool or move, if possible to a country where this is not happening. Who wants to see their children destroyed?
Seriously Comprof2.0, if your intent here is to convince anyone of anything other than that you are a fool, you are failing. In fact, you are drumming up more and more support for those you badger.
"The Komodo analysis of insurance claims found 56 genital surgeries among patients ages 13 to 17 with a prior gender dysphoria diagnosis from 2019 to 2021. Among teens, “top surgery” to remove breasts is more common. In the three years ending in 2021, at least 776 mastectomies were performed in the United States on patients ages 13 to 17 with a gender dysphoria diagnosis, according to Komodo’s data analysis of insurance claims. This tally does not include procedures that were paid for out of pocket."
"At least 14,726 minors started hormone treatment with a prior gender dysphoria diagnosis from 2017 through 2021"
I think it would be rather difficult to find that number. There are hundreds of these so-called gender affirming clinics in this country and in the UK, Scotland, etc. I doubt that they want to figures no anyway.
I don't consider the question foolish, I consider you foolish for badgering people endlessly with potshot stupidities. As for your question, what's interesting is that you do not seem to see that the difficulty in getting exact numbers to answer that question is itself so totally condemning of this gender surgery disgrace. It is not on the people here to give you those numbers. It is the profit-hungry parasites doing the surgery who should answer fully and honestly all questions about it. Do you ask them and badger them? Maybe you should.
Why would anyone who has any interest in the welfare of children support their mutation?
A young woman who loses her breasts to this lunacy can never know the joy of feeding her infant! And yet , one of the insane doctors ( whose license should have been revoked) said something to the effect of” if you want to get your breasts back, you can”!!
These are truly evil people who do this to young girls or young boys. Obviously those youngsters have mental problems that need to be addressed, but not was surgical or hormonal.” Treatments”!
She did not say that the family moved to Asia to escape such lunacy. She said "My daughter and SIL are currently raising [their children] in Asia to keep them away from this lunacy." I assumed this to mean that her daughter and SIL had been living in Asia for some time (most likely because one or both of them had a job there) and that this lunacy (and, I would think, all the CRT and other lunacy in today's US schools) was a reason that they had decided not to return to the US at this time. That seems perfectly reasonable to me. My husband's job took us to several countries. Most expat kids did quite well in US or international schools.
As I would have thought obvious, the problems are systemic lunacy, stupidity, and disingenuousness, and the rush to destroy children in the name of protecting them is just the latest symptom.
And once the data is clear much of this was a mistake and irreversibly harmful, what will those currently pushing it do? THEY WILL LIE ABOUT IT, then find some new reason to attack psychologically healthy people in the name of an issue thry created with lies, half truths, willful distortions, and coordinated social violence that makes it potentially costly to oppose them, no matter how stupid the claims being made.
There is certainly room in the middle, but nit where abusive lunatics are concerned.
Yep. Confirms the move had nothing to do with the issue/s of the article.
I never said they moved solely because of the trans lunacy. I said that the trans lunacy coupled with the erosion of parental control over their progeny in multiple fora is one of the primary reasons they’ve decided to remain outside the country.
See: CA and WA.
So yes this subject absolutely is a major factor in their family calculus regarding whether and when to return.
Marie - ignore the troll. There is absolutely nothing sincere about trying to drill into your family’s situation.
If I had children that age, I would homeschool or move, if possible to a country where this is not happening. Who wants to see their children destroyed?
Go back and read your initial comment.
Seriously Comprof2.0, if your intent here is to convince anyone of anything other than that you are a fool, you are failing. In fact, you are drumming up more and more support for those you badger.
All I'm asking is if anyone has any numbers on how many kids have undergone transition surgery or are currently in the process of doing so
Not surprising at all that you would consider that question to be foolish.
Have no desire to convince anyone of anything, as no one here is that important.
Numbers here: https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-transyouth-data/
"The Komodo analysis of insurance claims found 56 genital surgeries among patients ages 13 to 17 with a prior gender dysphoria diagnosis from 2019 to 2021. Among teens, “top surgery” to remove breasts is more common. In the three years ending in 2021, at least 776 mastectomies were performed in the United States on patients ages 13 to 17 with a gender dysphoria diagnosis, according to Komodo’s data analysis of insurance claims. This tally does not include procedures that were paid for out of pocket."
"At least 14,726 minors started hormone treatment with a prior gender dysphoria diagnosis from 2017 through 2021"
Ok, so about 800 transition surgeries. That seems to be number, because there's going to be some overlap there. 14,726 on hormone treatment.
Unfortunately, Reuters is the media. So, those numbers really can't be trusted.
I think it would be rather difficult to find that number. There are hundreds of these so-called gender affirming clinics in this country and in the UK, Scotland, etc. I doubt that they want to figures no anyway.
I don't consider the question foolish, I consider you foolish for badgering people endlessly with potshot stupidities. As for your question, what's interesting is that you do not seem to see that the difficulty in getting exact numbers to answer that question is itself so totally condemning of this gender surgery disgrace. It is not on the people here to give you those numbers. It is the profit-hungry parasites doing the surgery who should answer fully and honestly all questions about it. Do you ask them and badger them? Maybe you should.
Comprof trolls here regularly and only propagates bad faith arguments. Benign neglect is the only rational response.
and yet . . . I later ignored my own advice. Damn!
Haha!
Why would anyone who has any interest in the welfare of children support their mutation?
A young woman who loses her breasts to this lunacy can never know the joy of feeding her infant! And yet , one of the insane doctors ( whose license should have been revoked) said something to the effect of” if you want to get your breasts back, you can”!!
These are truly evil people who do this to young girls or young boys. Obviously those youngsters have mental problems that need to be addressed, but not was surgical or hormonal.” Treatments”!
I’m giggling here a bit contemplating the seeming reality that you HONESTLY believe you are being clever and perhaps even adding something.
You need to get out more, and have face to face conversations with intelligent people, rather than work ao hard to misunderstand obvious points.
The comment was clear. Responding to an article re: trans kids. Your colleague commented that is why her family moved to Asia, to escape such lunacy.
Am out everyday, interacting with a wide variety of intelligent, well-read, thoughtful people.
I balance that out by interacting with people here.
Now....can someone find some numbers re: trans kids?
If they do you're going to say that you already knew & the person who gets the info for you just "wanted to." Make up your mind.
Lol.
Yes. I did already know that the number of kids who have undergone gender reassignment was statistically pretty non-existent.
It's 775. Not 10,000 as you probably thought it was.
See...if I had said it was 775 you would have hurled invective, claimed it was false, a "leftist" lie...blah....blah...blah...
So my mind has been made up from the beginning.
She did not say that the family moved to Asia to escape such lunacy. She said "My daughter and SIL are currently raising [their children] in Asia to keep them away from this lunacy." I assumed this to mean that her daughter and SIL had been living in Asia for some time (most likely because one or both of them had a job there) and that this lunacy (and, I would think, all the CRT and other lunacy in today's US schools) was a reason that they had decided not to return to the US at this time. That seems perfectly reasonable to me. My husband's job took us to several countries. Most expat kids did quite well in US or international schools.
As I would have thought obvious, the problems are systemic lunacy, stupidity, and disingenuousness, and the rush to destroy children in the name of protecting them is just the latest symptom.
And once the data is clear much of this was a mistake and irreversibly harmful, what will those currently pushing it do? THEY WILL LIE ABOUT IT, then find some new reason to attack psychologically healthy people in the name of an issue thry created with lies, half truths, willful distortions, and coordinated social violence that makes it potentially costly to oppose them, no matter how stupid the claims being made.
There is certainly room in the middle, but nit where abusive lunatics are concerned.