My friend's bio daughter has been on this track since she was 12; she'll be 18 in March. Parents only allow her to bind, nothing else. She will thank them a million times over in a few more years.
This has been going on a long, long time......and you know it.
Correction: adopted daughter; my friend is the adoptive parent.
If a psychologist would have actually met with her to find out what was really going on in the 6th grade rather than just affirm these feelings, she may have revealed that her biological mother (who she has an open adoption relationship with) went on to get married and has three sons. How do we know that deep in her subconscious she might think she would have been kept by her biological mother if she had been born a boy. We may never know now.
Maybe you just started discussing it last year, but it was being discussed well before that. Abigail Shrier's book, Irreversible Damage, was published in 2020, and obviously, all her concern about the issue and research came from years before that.
I guess your ideological blinders prevented you from reading further in Elizabeth's post, to wit: "and obviously, all her concern about the issue and research came from years before that."
Oh, yes....I'm sure SHE was concerned...but YOU weren't and neither were the majority of people until last year. So, give me break that this has been something on the major cultural radar until recently.
If it weren't for Matt Walsh and Christopher Rufo, 99% of people wouldn't even know about all the stuff they're told to be concerned about.
So, I guess YOUR ideological blinders prevent you from seeing basic reality.
Please ignore this guy and get to work. It is literally going to take all of us, working together. Here are some websites to get started. This guy is a complete distraction.
This "stuff" has been discussed for years. Good friends of ours have been watching helplessly as their nut-job daughter-in-law (a therapist no less!) has convinced her daughter (adopted) since she was 8 years old that she's a boy. Last year she moved into hormonal treatments, and I'm sure she will soon be pushing for surgery any day now that the girl (oops, boy!) is 13. All this started 5 years ago, not "last year". Children's Hospital of Philadelphia (CHOP) was even at that time performing surgeries, so you have no idea what you're talking about with your made-up timeline.
The lunacy has been going on a long time in many forms.
Look at you: you daily demonstrate an utterly illiberal inability to recognize the validity of dissenting views, and with your handle it seems likely you are exposing our children to your bad ideas somewhere.
Common sense is not complicated. What is complicated is rationalizing obvious stupidity.
I give the same amount of validity to opinions from others as they give to mine.
Yes, you are right. I scream at white "children" (undergrad & grad) about how they're all oppressors, then I take off 10 points from their final grade for reparations, demand everyone uses pronouns and mutilate their genitalia.
Yes....I used common sense, which how I figured out no one moved their entire family to Asia to get away from trans lunacy that just started being discussed mainstream in late 2021. Kinda like people discovered "illiberal" as a buzzword....which by the way doesn't mean "you don't give other opinions validity."
Now, does ANYONE on here have any data about how many kids are transitioning or interacting with these clinics? I would legitimately like to know.
Wait, so you're lying when later you say you already knew but you were just making sure everyone did his own research? Because you're Comprof, of course. Ever the vigilant professor? You fork-tongued bloviator. You do make a really good pinata, though.
I just moved my family to Costa Rica to protect them from trans-lunacy and the first other family I met here was from the east coast doing the same thing.
People spend too much time being baited by your comments. But, it's now time for us to show you the door. We've all got work to do. Adios, sir.
We were planning on living here for one year. After the midterm results, we're not so sure. It's an amazing country.
I spend all day fighting against nonsense legislation in the U.S. My dad was a WWII vet (I'm the youngest of 13) and I think I have a duty to fight for the values so many people died for. Trying to embrace Pura Vida, but it's hard when the U.S. is collapsing before my eyes.
And, learning Spanish is harder than I remember from school. :)
100 clinics did not appear overnight, this has been going on for a long time, it is only now that is coming to the surface . Brown U. prof’s data on “social contagion”
Whatever the number, it is too many. It is totally illogical and ridiculous to say that anyone is born in the wrong body. Maybe some who are mentally disturbed, but no normal person would ever say that. It has been exacerbated by social media and it has been so lucrative to the medical industrial complex and to big Pharma. I just hope we stop this insanity.
It didn't start in 2021. According to the article, the uptick started in 2015. I noticed it personally about ten years ago, and started warning my children.
Not only is there a skyrocketing number of clinics, in other countries they are already starting to be closed. I suppose you haven't heard of the Tavistock debacle or of how some Scandinavian countries are stopping this barbarism.
Reuters has some data from Komodo Research through 2021. Based on insurance claims so doesn't include anything paid for out of pocket, and because of phrases like medical treatment of one form or another to "help alleviate their distress," and "After suppressing puberty, a child may pursue hormone treatments to initiate a puberty that aligns with their gender identity" assume extreme pro-transition bias. Results are tragic & market share of surgical treatment expected to more than double from $1.9 billion in 2021 to $5 billion by 2030.
One of the more fun factoids: "The Komodo analysis of insurance claims found 56 genital surgeries among patients ages 13 to 17 with a prior gender dysphoria diagnosis from 2019 to 2021. Among teens, “top surgery” to remove breasts is more common. In the three years ending in 2021, at least 776 mastectomies were performed in the United States on patients ages 13 to 17 with a gender dysphoria diagnosis, according to Komodo’s data analysis of insurance claims. This tally does not include procedures that were paid for out of pocket." And I wonder what happens to incidence not specifically tied to a diagnosis, but that's just me.
THIS TRANSGENDER TREND IS SO PERNICIOUS FOR YOUNG WOMEN. Please ignore this guy and get to work. It is literally going to take all of us, working together.
Prisha is articulating how your gender is affirmed...as long as it's the one they want you to affirm, because as a detransitioner she has been completely abandoned & ghosted by the trans community. Where there used to be love-bombing & hormones on tap, now she was actually stood up (after paying a fee) by a Plume.com healthcare provider when she was trying to get hormones to facilitate the painful aspects of her detransition. This is one ugly time in human history. I hope it is looked back on with deep shame.
As for Comprof, yes he's an asshole. Thanks very much, but occasionally I some violence to work off, & I don't play rugby.
So you think it's some kind of medical "efficiency" that causes children to lose their genitals and their breasts & at the same time inflates the numbers? You are one sick, smug puppy.
Probably understated, given the sources, and doesn't include 2022, increase during which time was not linear. Now, are you saying you're happy with that outcome?? These kids between 13 & 17. You're happy that the bodies of these children, & likely their ability to have children, is permanently destroyed by parents who are using them as hood ornaments? (the kids, not the genitals, though I wouldn't be surprised if some progressive mother who beat the astounding odds of more people on the planet to 1 against having 2 trans kids would be waving those kids' Bobbitted penises from her antenna).
This was a few keystrokes' worth of searching--the info is easy to find; for everyone but you, apparently. I mean, if you want a full review of the literature you're going to have to pay me in more than bullshit or do it yourself.
Here's another factoid from the same article: "A total of 17,683 patients, ages 6 through 17, with a prior gender dysphoria diagnosis initiated either puberty blockers or hormones or both during the five-year period." Did you hear that? SIX through 17. If that's something that gets your approval you're way more malign than I thought, & that's saying a lot.
Comprof is likely a petulant millennial that doesn't know how to reason, only how to troll and pretend he/she/it is engaged in a valid, serious exchange of ideas. Better to ignore him/her/it.
Hilarious that you anchored your entire bad-faith position on the idea that this just started last year and now you are demanding data.
You, as a simpleton hack, are still in the “it’s not happening” phase. I will let you know when it is time to switch over to “it’s good that it’s happening”.
I don’t know. The Bible says they win and there’s an apocalypse. I’ve got that one plague with weird looking grasshoppers coming from a lab where they are trying to make insect food with gain of function for more protein and the insects escape and etc etc etc
The author said there were 100 such clinics. We already know that there are such clinics run by hospitals associated with major universities because they publicly announced it. Maybe someone would know if we didn't have an administration who has a comedic admiral in a dress. At least Klinger was only a corporal. And, fictional, to boot.
"Anyone who raised doubts ran the risk of being called a transphobe. "
Name calling is the first line of defense a leftist uses. It is designed to stifle any debate and the reason they don't want debate is because they have no solid ground to stand on and if you push them for a reasonable response they change the subject and leave in a self righteous huff.
Like comprof, they have this smug, superior attitude that they are intellectually better than the unwashed masses. Comprof comes off as "I'm an educated (inarticulate) college professor (a claim I dispute). How dare you question me, you uneducated boob. Plus, I am a sensitive, caring liberal and you are a NAZI, uncaring, racist, uneducated, brutal dolt. How dare you question me!"
Bruce, do you think I have summed this up, nailed it?
THIS TRANSGENDER TREND IS SO PERNICIOUS FOR YOUNG WOMEN. Please ignore this guy and get to work. It is literally going to take all of us, working together.
Hey genius, go look it up yourself, it's all out there. No one here is obligated to give you the data you demand -- as if that will stop your juvenile commenting anyway.
You can find plenty of data on this in the cass report on the UK, as a starting point - the US practices are more liberal and less tracked but no reason to think they're wildly different.. if anything probably worse.
"anyone have data on how many kids under 18 have gone through transition surgery or interacting with these clinics?"
Isn't that why we have a government? But when the government is in the hands of lunatics supporting this lunacy, do you really expect them to investigate it? Let alone end the madness?
The same government that has people wearing face masks for 3 years without performing ONE RCT on their efficacy/risks? Their 30,000 employees (NIH & CDC) and $62 billion dollar budget obviously have more pressing concerns to study during a global pandemic. Like the sex habits of pigeons doing cocaine...
My daughter and her husband have asked that their kids’ personal information be limited. I never post pictures of them anywhere. I don’t use their names or specifics about their location.
The eldest grandchild is in elementary school. The youngest is a toddler. They left the US when the eldest was three.
Fishing has a lot of aspects: sometimes the most effective way for a lazy fisherman who doesn't feel like doing his homework is trolling. Rather than do the work of studying his game, the lazy fisherman just hangs some bait on his hook and drives his boat and see who bites. It's a very lazy way to fish but sometimes pretty effective. The only way to discourage such a fisherman is for fish not to bite.
I never said they moved solely because of the trans lunacy. I said that the trans lunacy coupled with the erosion of parental control over their progeny in multiple fora is one of the primary reasons they’ve decided to remain outside the country.
See: CA and WA.
So yes this subject absolutely is a major factor in their family calculus regarding whether and when to return.
If I had children that age, I would homeschool or move, if possible to a country where this is not happening. Who wants to see their children destroyed?
Seriously Comprof2.0, if your intent here is to convince anyone of anything other than that you are a fool, you are failing. In fact, you are drumming up more and more support for those you badger.
When did they move?
Before my eldest grandchild started elementary school.
What year?
TMI. Sorry.
Lol. TMI. Yeah....because they moved way before all this trans/kids trans reeassignment stuff all started being discussed last year.
My friend's bio daughter has been on this track since she was 12; she'll be 18 in March. Parents only allow her to bind, nothing else. She will thank them a million times over in a few more years.
This has been going on a long, long time......and you know it.
Correction: adopted daughter; my friend is the adoptive parent.
If a psychologist would have actually met with her to find out what was really going on in the 6th grade rather than just affirm these feelings, she may have revealed that her biological mother (who she has an open adoption relationship with) went on to get married and has three sons. How do we know that deep in her subconscious she might think she would have been kept by her biological mother if she had been born a boy. We may never know now.
Intelligent people are capable of foresight.
No wonder I never see anything coming :-)
That I do not believe.
Aw! Thanks, Lynne :-)
Maybe you just started discussing it last year, but it was being discussed well before that. Abigail Shrier's book, Irreversible Damage, was published in 2020, and obviously, all her concern about the issue and research came from years before that.
2020? Man....that's a long time ago.
I guess your ideological blinders prevented you from reading further in Elizabeth's post, to wit: "and obviously, all her concern about the issue and research came from years before that."
Oh, yes....I'm sure SHE was concerned...but YOU weren't and neither were the majority of people until last year. So, give me break that this has been something on the major cultural radar until recently.
If it weren't for Matt Walsh and Christopher Rufo, 99% of people wouldn't even know about all the stuff they're told to be concerned about.
So, I guess YOUR ideological blinders prevent you from seeing basic reality.
Please ignore this guy and get to work. It is literally going to take all of us, working together. Here are some websites to get started. This guy is a complete distraction.
https://feministstruggle.org/tag/erin-friday/
https://ourduty.group/2022/10/08/we-need-to-stop-transing-kids-now/
It is a book very well worth reading. And I’m sure since that time there have been many more children who have been abused in this way.
This "stuff" has been discussed for years. Good friends of ours have been watching helplessly as their nut-job daughter-in-law (a therapist no less!) has convinced her daughter (adopted) since she was 8 years old that she's a boy. Last year she moved into hormonal treatments, and I'm sure she will soon be pushing for surgery any day now that the girl (oops, boy!) is 13. All this started 5 years ago, not "last year". Children's Hospital of Philadelphia (CHOP) was even at that time performing surgeries, so you have no idea what you're talking about with your made-up timeline.
The lunacy has been going on a long time in many forms.
Look at you: you daily demonstrate an utterly illiberal inability to recognize the validity of dissenting views, and with your handle it seems likely you are exposing our children to your bad ideas somewhere.
Common sense is not complicated. What is complicated is rationalizing obvious stupidity.
Your post has summed up this troll perfectly Thanks Barry!
Lol. Me asking how many kids have undergone gender reassignment surgery is trolling. Everyone has a psychiatric meltdown.
You people are pathetic.
Buh bye.
But the issue if the article was trans kids, etc
I give the same amount of validity to opinions from others as they give to mine.
Yes, you are right. I scream at white "children" (undergrad & grad) about how they're all oppressors, then I take off 10 points from their final grade for reparations, demand everyone uses pronouns and mutilate their genitalia.
Yes....I used common sense, which how I figured out no one moved their entire family to Asia to get away from trans lunacy that just started being discussed mainstream in late 2021. Kinda like people discovered "illiberal" as a buzzword....which by the way doesn't mean "you don't give other opinions validity."
Now, does ANYONE on here have any data about how many kids are transitioning or interacting with these clinics? I would legitimately like to know.
Wait, so you're lying when later you say you already knew but you were just making sure everyone did his own research? Because you're Comprof, of course. Ever the vigilant professor? You fork-tongued bloviator. You do make a really good pinata, though.
Thanks for your comment. For those of us who need to stop this MADNESS NOW, check out these sites:
https://feministstruggle.org/tag/erin-friday/
https://ourduty.group/2022/10/08/we-need-to-stop-transing-kids-now/
There's so much work to do. Ignore this guy.
Read this....think it helps answer your question.
https://quillette.com/2023/02/10/social-contagion-and-transgender-identities/
I just moved my family to Costa Rica to protect them from trans-lunacy and the first other family I met here was from the east coast doing the same thing.
People spend too much time being baited by your comments. But, it's now time for us to show you the door. We've all got work to do. Adios, sir.
So now you're a Tico?
The surfing is great there. Can't wait to go back.
We were planning on living here for one year. After the midterm results, we're not so sure. It's an amazing country.
I spend all day fighting against nonsense legislation in the U.S. My dad was a WWII vet (I'm the youngest of 13) and I think I have a duty to fight for the values so many people died for. Trying to embrace Pura Vida, but it's hard when the U.S. is collapsing before my eyes.
And, learning Spanish is harder than I remember from school. :)
100 clinics did not appear overnight, this has been going on for a long time, it is only now that is coming to the surface . Brown U. prof’s data on “social contagion”
Fascinating. Really.
You basicslly repeating what I'm saying. No one was talking about this or CRT until Matt Walsh and Chris Rufo started talking about it last year.
Perhaps you have only been following this since late 2021. Also someone with young children would have seen the signs of it earlier.
Whatever the number, it is too many. It is totally illogical and ridiculous to say that anyone is born in the wrong body. Maybe some who are mentally disturbed, but no normal person would ever say that. It has been exacerbated by social media and it has been so lucrative to the medical industrial complex and to big Pharma. I just hope we stop this insanity.
It didn't start in 2021. According to the article, the uptick started in 2015. I noticed it personally about ten years ago, and started warning my children.
Trans lunacy may not have been the only trigger. It could be the larger culture and the education system it has created.
Not "may not," it "wasn't" - which was my point.
Yes, it is an epidemic.
Not only is there a skyrocketing number of clinics, in other countries they are already starting to be closed. I suppose you haven't heard of the Tavistock debacle or of how some Scandinavian countries are stopping this barbarism.
Reuters has some data from Komodo Research through 2021. Based on insurance claims so doesn't include anything paid for out of pocket, and because of phrases like medical treatment of one form or another to "help alleviate their distress," and "After suppressing puberty, a child may pursue hormone treatments to initiate a puberty that aligns with their gender identity" assume extreme pro-transition bias. Results are tragic & market share of surgical treatment expected to more than double from $1.9 billion in 2021 to $5 billion by 2030.
One of the more fun factoids: "The Komodo analysis of insurance claims found 56 genital surgeries among patients ages 13 to 17 with a prior gender dysphoria diagnosis from 2019 to 2021. Among teens, “top surgery” to remove breasts is more common. In the three years ending in 2021, at least 776 mastectomies were performed in the United States on patients ages 13 to 17 with a gender dysphoria diagnosis, according to Komodo’s data analysis of insurance claims. This tally does not include procedures that were paid for out of pocket." And I wonder what happens to incidence not specifically tied to a diagnosis, but that's just me.
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-transyouth-data/
https://www.grandviewresearch.com/industry-analysis/us-sex-reassignment-surgery-market
That may be the most confusing and unintelligible collection of words I have ever read.
Maybe take it up with reuters & grandview? I can't address your ability to comprehend.
Good. So, 56 genital surgeries and 776 masectomies, some of which cases probably overlap/had both done.
See....that wasn't so hard, was it?
Thanks again for your comment.
THIS TRANSGENDER TREND IS SO PERNICIOUS FOR YOUNG WOMEN. Please ignore this guy and get to work. It is literally going to take all of us, working together.
https://feministstruggle.org/tag/erin-friday/
https://ourduty.group/2022/10/08/we-need-to-stop-transing-kids-now/
Came upon a group the other day giving voice to detransitioning kids: youtube.com/@IndependentWomensForum, in particular the episodes of "Identity Crisis." Chloe Cole of course (who I hear is bringing a lawsuit against Kaiser) and another young woman, Prisha Mosley. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Utncd9-VxPg&ab_channel=PrishaMosley
That's her first upload & utterly heart-rending.
Prisha is articulating how your gender is affirmed...as long as it's the one they want you to affirm, because as a detransitioner she has been completely abandoned & ghosted by the trans community. Where there used to be love-bombing & hormones on tap, now she was actually stood up (after paying a fee) by a Plume.com healthcare provider when she was trying to get hormones to facilitate the painful aspects of her detransition. This is one ugly time in human history. I hope it is looked back on with deep shame.
As for Comprof, yes he's an asshole. Thanks very much, but occasionally I some violence to work off, & I don't play rugby.
So you think it's some kind of medical "efficiency" that causes children to lose their genitals and their breasts & at the same time inflates the numbers? You are one sick, smug puppy.
When did I say anything about "medical efficiency?" You're one dumb puppy.
Just wanted data on how many gender reassignment surgeries have been done. Seems to be 800.
Probably understated, given the sources, and doesn't include 2022, increase during which time was not linear. Now, are you saying you're happy with that outcome?? These kids between 13 & 17. You're happy that the bodies of these children, & likely their ability to have children, is permanently destroyed by parents who are using them as hood ornaments? (the kids, not the genitals, though I wouldn't be surprised if some progressive mother who beat the astounding odds of more people on the planet to 1 against having 2 trans kids would be waving those kids' Bobbitted penises from her antenna).
This was a few keystrokes' worth of searching--the info is easy to find; for everyone but you, apparently. I mean, if you want a full review of the literature you're going to have to pay me in more than bullshit or do it yourself.
Here's another factoid from the same article: "A total of 17,683 patients, ages 6 through 17, with a prior gender dysphoria diagnosis initiated either puberty blockers or hormones or both during the five-year period." Did you hear that? SIX through 17. If that's something that gets your approval you're way more malign than I thought, & that's saying a lot.
Yeah, I heard that.
Wasn't talking about that though, was I?
Was talking/asking about surgeries, of which there have been aprox. 800
So, no Snarling Fifi. More than capable of looking it up. But wanted YOU to do it.
So easy why not have just done it yourself?
Comprof is likely a petulant millennial that doesn't know how to reason, only how to troll and pretend he/she/it is engaged in a valid, serious exchange of ideas. Better to ignore him/her/it.
Because I already knew there have been approx. 800 gender reassignment surgeries done.
Hilarious that you anchored your entire bad-faith position on the idea that this just started last year and now you are demanding data.
You, as a simpleton hack, are still in the “it’s not happening” phase. I will let you know when it is time to switch over to “it’s good that it’s happening”.
Don’t engage Kevin!
The Good News is that if "Comprof" represents "the other side," than our side--the side of justice and righteousness--will prevail.
If they can't call you a "transphobe," they got nothin.'
I don’t know. The Bible says they win and there’s an apocalypse. I’ve got that one plague with weird looking grasshoppers coming from a lab where they are trying to make insect food with gain of function for more protein and the insects escape and etc etc etc
😂😂😵💫😵💫
The author said there were 100 such clinics. We already know that there are such clinics run by hospitals associated with major universities because they publicly announced it. Maybe someone would know if we didn't have an administration who has a comedic admiral in a dress. At least Klinger was only a corporal. And, fictional, to boot.
Check out this link for financial information about the sex reassignment industry. It lists some of the big players.
https://www.grandviewresearch.com/industry-analysis/us-sex-reassignment-surgery-market
Wow, thank you! - LM
Here's one from PITT that charts the child gender clinics in the US:
https://pitt.substack.com/p/why-is-this-happening-and-who-can
Yeah, back in the day, "Corporal Klinger" was a joke...now he(?) is running our health care system...guess the joke is on the rest of us now.
"Anyone who raised doubts ran the risk of being called a transphobe. "
Name calling is the first line of defense a leftist uses. It is designed to stifle any debate and the reason they don't want debate is because they have no solid ground to stand on and if you push them for a reasonable response they change the subject and leave in a self righteous huff.
Like comprof, they have this smug, superior attitude that they are intellectually better than the unwashed masses. Comprof comes off as "I'm an educated (inarticulate) college professor (a claim I dispute). How dare you question me, you uneducated boob. Plus, I am a sensitive, caring liberal and you are a NAZI, uncaring, racist, uneducated, brutal dolt. How dare you question me!"
Bruce, do you think I have summed this up, nailed it?
Polecat, you well know that if the Left can't namecall, it can't say anything at all.
How true.
Come on, this guy thinks a snarky remark and "LOL" is a valid answer to all questions. He thinks anal extrapolation is a researched, valid answer.
I already know how many clinics, but that wasn't the question was it?
There's probably at least 100 auto repair shops, too.
Does anyone have data on how many kids under 18 have gone through transition surgery or interacting with these clinics?
Yeah...don't think someone wearing a dress is inhibiting the collection of this data.
Thanks again for your comment.
THIS TRANSGENDER TREND IS SO PERNICIOUS FOR YOUNG WOMEN. Please ignore this guy and get to work. It is literally going to take all of us, working together.
https://feministstruggle.org/tag/erin-friday/
https://ourduty.group/2022/10/08/we-need-to-stop-transing-kids-now/
Hey genius, go look it up yourself, it's all out there. No one here is obligated to give you the data you demand -- as if that will stop your juvenile commenting anyway.
Lol. Already knew the answer, Linda.
775 gender reassignment surgeries.
However, I knew it woud be Igood for people like YOU to look that information up, though. Which is what a "genius" does.
Why is everyone on here having a meltdown about one, simple question?!
You can find plenty of data on this in the cass report on the UK, as a starting point - the US practices are more liberal and less tracked but no reason to think they're wildly different.. if anything probably worse.
See above.
"anyone have data on how many kids under 18 have gone through transition surgery or interacting with these clinics?"
Isn't that why we have a government? But when the government is in the hands of lunatics supporting this lunacy, do you really expect them to investigate it? Let alone end the madness?
The same government that has people wearing face masks for 3 years without performing ONE RCT on their efficacy/risks? Their 30,000 employees (NIH & CDC) and $62 billion dollar budget obviously have more pressing concerns to study during a global pandemic. Like the sex habits of pigeons doing cocaine...
Well, Bruce....seems like one of your colleagues found the non-existent information.
My daughter and her husband have asked that their kids’ personal information be limited. I never post pictures of them anywhere. I don’t use their names or specifics about their location.
The eldest grandchild is in elementary school. The youngest is a toddler. They left the US when the eldest was three.
That enough for you?
Fishing has a lot of aspects: sometimes the most effective way for a lazy fisherman who doesn't feel like doing his homework is trolling. Rather than do the work of studying his game, the lazy fisherman just hangs some bait on his hook and drives his boat and see who bites. It's a very lazy way to fish but sometimes pretty effective. The only way to discourage such a fisherman is for fish not to bite.
Yep. Confirms the move had nothing to do with the issue/s of the article.
I never said they moved solely because of the trans lunacy. I said that the trans lunacy coupled with the erosion of parental control over their progeny in multiple fora is one of the primary reasons they’ve decided to remain outside the country.
See: CA and WA.
So yes this subject absolutely is a major factor in their family calculus regarding whether and when to return.
Marie - ignore the troll. There is absolutely nothing sincere about trying to drill into your family’s situation.
If I had children that age, I would homeschool or move, if possible to a country where this is not happening. Who wants to see their children destroyed?
Go back and read your initial comment.
Seriously Comprof2.0, if your intent here is to convince anyone of anything other than that you are a fool, you are failing. In fact, you are drumming up more and more support for those you badger.
All I'm asking is if anyone has any numbers on how many kids have undergone transition surgery or are currently in the process of doing so
Not surprising at all that you would consider that question to be foolish.
Have no desire to convince anyone of anything, as no one here is that important.
Comprof trolls here regularly and only propagates bad faith arguments. Benign neglect is the only rational response.
I’m giggling here a bit contemplating the seeming reality that you HONESTLY believe you are being clever and perhaps even adding something.
You need to get out more, and have face to face conversations with intelligent people, rather than work ao hard to misunderstand obvious points.
The comment was clear. Responding to an article re: trans kids. Your colleague commented that is why her family moved to Asia, to escape such lunacy.
Am out everyday, interacting with a wide variety of intelligent, well-read, thoughtful people.
I balance that out by interacting with people here.
Now....can someone find some numbers re: trans kids?
You don’t owe It (I don’t want to assume pronouns) anything.