We moved to Costa Rica to protect my daughters, aged 12 and 15 from this bullshit. Their private school in Colorado, Colorado Academy, had several girls convinced they were boys.
I totally support what you are doing. You are only a very small minority of people with the ability to do such a radical move. What's more, it will lead to people like yourself being the leaders of what is left after these feral monsters get done torching the world with their sickness of mind. It seems the two ends of the economic spectrum, those who can escape entirely such as you, and those far below me on the spectrum, too rooted in reality to be indocrinated, will be those left standing. Praise God. It now just all depends on how much damage the Wokies can do in the meantime.
Funny, I was looking around purple states for a non-woke high school and actually looked (on-line) at Colorado Academy. We left the hot bed of Manhattan and yep, this stuff is being introduced at child’s new (non-NYC) independent K-8 school.
Here's how it is working between the "health professionals," schools, legislators and your children in many states. We are from Colorado so here's the CO example:
1. Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment ("CDPHE") contracts with The University of Colorado Anschutz Medical Center (“Anschutz”) to survey kids about their mental health issues.
2. In 2021, Healthy Kids Colorado Survey was given to more than 106,000 students, in grades 6-12 attending 340 schools in 51 different counties in Colorado. www.coloradokids.org
3. Question #3 of the Survey asks kids to state their gender identity. Questions 4 and 5 ask questions specifically about transgenderism.
4. Questions are "aggregated and anonymized" by Anschutz to populate CDPHE's public data dashboard. In other words, CDPHE can't tell me which schools were surveyed. Schools have no duty to tell parents any information about kids social transitioning in school.
5. CRS 12-245-2035, codified in 2019, allows "youth who are 12 and over to have legal access to outpatient psychotherapy services that might otherwise be unavailable without the consent of or notification to the youth's parent or legal guardian."
6. HB 23-1003, currently about to become law, creates a Mental Health Assessment program, administered by CDPHE that specifies that "students 12 and over may consent to participate in a mental health questionnaire (presumably the same one as above), administered by a Qualified Provider who can direct additional treatment of the student without the parent's consent. Presumably all the referrals are for “specialists” at Anschutz.
11. Sex-reassignment surgery was valued at $1.9B for 2021 and “and is expected to expand at a compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 11.23% from 2022 to 2030.”
Where's the new school? Colorado Academy teaches gender ideology as early as Kindergarten. We are in the process of undoing all the ideological training. We paid a ton of money to have our kids' minds totally poisoned.
A friend of mine that pulled her kids out of private school said the funniest, albeit tragic, statement: "Well, you can get it for free or you can pay for it."
Have you taken the phone away? Or at the very least, put monitors on it? Ditto on their computers? Ensured they aren't on harmful Social media apps, like Tiktok?
If you're not using one, it doesn't matter what school your kid goes to, they will get indoctrinated.
I'd ensure they go nowhere near TikTok or Discord.
I worry about my younger daughter, 12 who is very impressionable. She won't get a phone until 8th grade or later, but she has access to her IPad and my phone and my husband's phone. She is sneaky.
She was checking out Deviant Art on my mom's phone. So, I had her watch TV in my bedroom so I could keep an eye on her and she started watching a bunch of anime. I would need a phD in computer engineering to keep up with her hacking skills.
This was back in 5th grade, two years ago and she had several non-binary/trans kids in her class (all biological females). Back then, we didn't realize the pernicious progression of this nonsense; we were piecing it together.
It seems to go something like this: pronouns glorified at school > Deviant art website > Discord > Anime > Tiktok> GSA (Gay Straight Alliance which is now Gender Sexuality Alliance -- although our school denied this even though they were well aware of the rebranding) > social transitioning > puberty blockers > "top surgery." Shriver discusses a lot of this. Have any parents seen additional pathways?
Yes, it's a dangerous world. I also have conversations, probably once a month about the perniciousness and the danger of the transgender ideology. And I contrast it with how the world was...oh, up until ten years ago.
And though they sometimes go around my methods of watching them (with the apps and such), and it's no fun punishing kids (they seem not to understand that we don't buy them things for the sole purpose of the joy we get from taking them away!), in the end, I feel a lot safer knowing that they're avoiding all the "crazy" out there.
Good for you! My husband and I knew that transexual "rights" were on the rise when our daughter ROGDed but never imagined it would jump out of the middle aged men category or be promoted in high school. Perhaps parents today do have one advantage in that they know they need to tell their kids that sex is binary - a too obvious fact for us to have thought of discussing in 2017. She chastised us for never telling her about the weird nonsense - like it was truth we kept from her.
I agree that safety controls are good. I also think that having kids use computers and televisions out in the open where you can see what they watch is best. Then, if something disturbing comes up you have a chance to discuss it. Pretty much all content on TV seems to be laced with GI now. You really cannot keep this entirely away from your daughter because it is the culture now. This is why I want to see GI debunked and a museum made to the atrocities that transpired. Something you can do is get your child busy with real things in the real world - especially in nature. Maybe she could get a small job dog walking? Or, is there a nearby farm where she might pitch-in? 4thwavenow.com came before PITT and the mother who ran that site sent her teen daughter to work at a horse farm & she desisted. Maybe a little preemptive dog walking would be good?
I've had my kids computers in the open and we use them all in the same room. Even my 21 year old, still living at home son still has his computer in the same place it was seven years ago.
Hi JakeD. You offer good advice. But... nothing will be enough until society understands that GI is junk science and a junk civil rights movement wrapped up into a cult.
Our feminine daughter was half way through high school with a flip phone when we learned she'd been groomed by other kids at school. We didn't even know that any girls or women went for transexuality but we were not on board with social media (without "trans" on our brains). And, our house Wifi went off at night. ROGD hit us. Abigail Shrier published her article in the WSJ and later her book which I eagerly awaited. Lisa Littman published a study. I couldn't believe that the NYT and everywhere else just published rah rah articles like those of "Jennifer" Boylan. And, no one cared about this issue in the last election. What good are "conservatives" who cannot conserve our daughters? Now, we have First Female 4 Star Admiral Richard Levine running policy and a Supreme Court Justice who does not know what a woman is.
Our former high school now invites "FTMs" (Cosmetically Masculinized Women who I prefer to call CMW) to assemblies to talk about their lived experiences - or something.
Families move, they try to cut off everything, but just like with Anorexia and Bomelia, it finds girls in every society that hears about it. The difference is that we never celebrated those. They didn't make fetished men feel validated. People were not making vast sums of money off of them. And, there was not this potential to use body parts to fulfill a sick fantasy. Have you seen this one? https://townhall.com/tipsheet/madelineleesman/2023/01/16/childrens-hospital-talks-about-uterus-transplants-n2618349 Have you noticed that we are not allowed to say that anything at all is sick? It isn't kind. We even have the normalization of pedophilia movement with MAPS. Ok, maybe an infinitesimal number of men had this thing called Gender Identity Disorder, but lets face that it is a mental disorder - even if some of them "treat" (damage) their bodies for it.
These days our young adult daughter is very busy doing some real things in the real world. She is loving again, physically unhurt, and I suspect mostly desisted. No one in the family ever went for a nut name or pronoun so she doesn't have to explain anything to us. But, I think it is embarrassing for young people to admit they made a goof - especially with peers...
These days I want justice. I want to see some "experts" lose their licenses. I want to see jail time. I'd be fine with bringing back the gallows for a few. Examples need to be made (legally). - LM
While I agree that society needs to change - that takes time, and kids are being impacted NOW. I am recommending things that can be done now, today, so that some protections can be made and the transgender attack fought back against.
Obviously, some of those wouldn't have worked in your situation, and I can only imagine how hard all that must have been that you've had to deal with. I'm also thankful that you and your daughter have come out the other side, safe and whole.
In the end, nothing beats attentive and involved parenting, but parents can't be there all the time, and whatever tools we can find to help in this rapidly changing world, help fill the gap.
Thank you JakeD. I appreciate your responses and we are in firm agreement.
Maybe depending on circumstances and the degree to which this trans travesty grows and infiltrates all spaces, it will be impossible for some to protect their children. That's why I think hard about how it can be taken down. It's junk science and a junk "civil rights movement" in need of being exposed to the public. Then, I think we need to see a few - like Richard Levine - serve jail time for promoting the mutilation of children based on pseudoscience.
Agreed. And on the positive side, it seems like almost daily, we're seeing some of this being peeled back. In an odd way, we can thank Elon Musk - we might just owe our country to him at some point, since one of Twitter's chief content moderators was himself a Trans! Obviously, the purchase of Twitter, and the impact on the freedom of speech, and now things like the "Twitter Files" - all have impacted the level of discourse in this country.
And it seems like, while the tide hasn't turned, at least there's acknowledgement that there's actually a battle to be fought.
To think that American liberty might just have come down to Elon Musk. I think he fired most of the "content moderators".
Where I live most people don't seem to have heard of the Twitter Files or have any awareness of the Trans Travesty around them even though so many girls suffer. Still, I think that bubble will be popped as word spreads in other places - and I am hopeful that Chloe Cole wins big and that we get a President DeSantis.
Loving Mother- I am sorry for the pain your daughter and self have had to endure at the hands of the school and healthcare union that abused your child. The abuse is rampant and pervasive. The Catholic Church of the 1970's have nothing on the gender identity abuse being thrust on kids. Imagine if the Cardinal of Boston said- 'The priest was not a child rapist of the altar boy- he was just Minor Attracted Person acting out. We will now send him to NM to recover"
They should lose license first and prosecute for neglect for sure. However this candle was lit a long time ago with schools & healthcare workers being involved in mandated reporters and custody cases in family court. This is where the empowerment of the beast began. Anonymous reporting that is redacted unless a criminal act is proved by the reporter. Complete lack of accountability with power. Power in the hands of people who unlike police have no training to investigate, but special policing duties to report. Due to the compartmentalization of their reports someone can easily hide a prejudice or an agenda. Most people are responsible, but if you are a bad MSW- you can cause havoc, just like the MSW's are in this story. Add money, like in custody cases and family court, and you have a lethal combination for kids and families. A whole new brand of abuse was born and in this case physicians and clinicians are lining up to reap the dollars on the souls of the kids.
They are the largest parasitic ticks buried in. Everyone needs to keep in mind it is not just their own liability, but the larger institutions liability that they endangered. The larger institutions are vicious. These are the same people who shield serial killers at hospitals to protect the institutions. i.e. The Good Nurse on Netflix. They will not report deaths and disfigurements to protect liability. These people need to be made criminally liable for hiding things like this. Once you know or suspect something is harming or killing patients you should have a mandated reporting duty when they know there is a problem within their ecosystem like within the transgender nightmare. Also if you know you have a habitual reporter who is creating false abuse claims for custody issues or a hero complex, and yes this exists with Social Workers and Nurses, these people needed to be held criminally liable and have immediate licensure suspended and/or revoked.
I think that Federal "Female" Richard Levine (alias of Rachael) should go on criminal trail. But, I doubt it will happen as such people seem to be immune/live by different rules from the rest of us, once elevated to federal government.
I agree with every word and I'm so glad your daughter is safe.
Agree with you about the "experts." I actually think parents should start patronizing Doctors who actively disagree with the gender affirming recommendations of the AAP, in favor of gender-critical practitioners.
Yes. I think it might have to be a doctor in private practice. If the doctor belongs to a medical organization it is likely the organization insists they "affirm" - at least in the US - hopefully not in Costa Rica! In some states doctors can lose their licences for being "gender-critical"/non-believers.
It's horrifying, isn't it? I actually had to write everything down because it was so surreal that I would doubt my recollection for the rest of my life if I hadn't.
Yes. I was physically shaking to find they were calling my girl a crazy name and "he". And, they refused to stop, but patronized me instead. Classroom teachers know your kid so well and you the mother must not have paid attention to her growing up or something. The other thing the teachers have been trained to do is beam and smile about it while you feel you will crumble to the ground. If someone really did have a mental disorder called gender dysphoria (which I did not think for a min our daughter did) why would you start doing a happy dance about it? The whole thing has such a cult religious nature. Like - Jesus has been found to be talking through your child! Holy holy holy holy. You've got one.
Then, since you the mother are clearly upset you are offered counseling which is all about gaslighting the parent to go along with it. Parents are pressured to attend these "support" meetings which are really all about how GI is real and getting you to believe. I did not attend.
This one really is on the adults. Teens can be driven by peers to do weird stuff - but the adults in the room? I really do think a few "experts" need jail sentences.
I am so sorry to hear about your story. I completely agree with you. The school was "agreeing" with every thing I said and then not changing a thing. My 10 year-old was having nightmares because they showed her a movie suggesting that black people were CURRENTLY in the US being handcuffed and pushed off buildings for violating curfew laws. She asked to go somewhere on spring break where segregation was illegal. There were several girls in her 4th grade class social transitioning in school. I had never heard of puberty blockers until she told me in 5th grade (!) that her classmates were taking them. I'm 48 and have voted for Democrats for most of my life. The shit that the Democrats are up to right now is so poisonous that I will never vote for another Democrat as long as I live. The overreach is horrifying.
My husband and I promised to take the year off from the stress of all this stuff in Costa Rica. But, guess what?! The first people we met had a very similar experience as yours. They were just here to keep their kids safe.
Agree with you on all fronts. Please keep fighting the fight.
Thank you for sharing your story. Terrible. It's good your family can stay in Costa Rica. So smart to leave when your daughter was so young. I am not surprised you met another family fleeing the madness. I hope the ideology does not infiltrate the culture there. Our daughter is older than yours. I don't think I'd heard of "puberty blockers" even when we had the ROGD experience in high school. I'm worried about future generations, too.
Yes, I have voted for Ds and Rs - having been an Independent all my life. I don't think I will vote for a D again and I will not vote for any R unwilling to "fight a culture war". I wonder whether Tulsi Gabbard could run on the ticket with Ron DeSantis.
Thank you for the great link you provided recently.
Very bad. But, at least you know to tell your daughter that the pronoun thing is bad and your family isn't for it. And, she's young so she will listen to you.
I’ve considered leaving again. I can hardly believe I’m saying that. But In truth the remedy is to stand up and fight this. Truth wins it’s just taking more time than it should.
It is going to take every single one of us to stop this madness. As I type this, Colorado (D) legislators are trying to codify 12 year-olds access to mental health counseling (i.e., gender confusion and ideology) in schools, over the parents' objections. The school then refers the child to a gender-affirming specialist/counselor. Because it's gender affirming and not gender-critical or gender-questioning, it's a one-way ticket to puberty blockers and "top surgery" (the current euphemism for traumatic, elective radical mastectomies in minors.)
EXACTLY THIS. Many times with this madness (Ukraine comes to mind) we are unable to do much as oftentimes these politicians say they will bring change but then they don't. In this case though speaking out can change things. This took hold by means of social contagion, and it will be the only way out.
Kind of a boring letter, but skipping ahead to the parent testimonials will give you a very good sense of what is being done in expensive private schools. I have several pages full of horror stories told to me by parents.
Making me sick every day Mc and to think this gets Federal $$$$ we are in the twilight zone, it can’t last forever. Travistock in England has already closed down. We got to hammer away at this mad administration to stop this and stop it now!!
It was really hard pulling two very happy kids out of a school with their friends that they had known for years. My husband and I fought about it daily for about a year. But, believing the transgender craze to be a contagion based on Abigail Shiver's book, we figured we had to get out. He was so pissed that the school was turning our beautiful young students/girls into anxious wanna-be boys. Here's the letter that I wrote to the Board begging them to calm the hell down with gender ideology. The school was hiring gender ideology experts to teach kids about how many different genders there were to choose from. I told the Principal at a meeting that it was emotionally inappropriate for elementary and middle-school kids and he disagreed, saying it was appropriate as early as Kindergarten. I have so many horror stories. Still trying to sort it all out and live a calm life in Costa Rica.
It is worth it, there a lot of people out there that know this is all wrong, we just have to find our own way forward collectively, we can vote this nonsense out of power and we must!!!
I don't see good trends in many areas in the US, be it DIE (yes I reversed two letters because it's more consistent with the outcome of putting demographic status over merit), ESG (a push based on bad science), surrendering self determination to international organizations (loss of self determination), "education", "science", and censorship. I looked at relocating, but the insanity is still spreading and other places have their own issues. If I had school age children, I would educate at home, or pool resources with like-minded people to develop a (monitored) tutor system. Opting out of many areas seems to be the only option left.
Even the best private schools in the country have been infiltrated, along with the religious school. This Critical Pedagogy stuff began being taught in the Education Colleges in the '90s. It's soaked through the entire pedagogy of thought in education. Wanna have your head explode? Go research 'whole word theory"...They've stopped teaching phonics as an act of 'restorative justice'. They are okay with failing to serve all but the 'under-privileged' - who they fail as well of course. Kids are learning phonics outside of school now, smart parents make sure they do. They don't really 'learn' anything anymore the way my generation thinks about learning. Rather, they are given things 'to know' and ways to navigate knowing. Imbued with hard core Marcusian Crit Theory madness.
At least relocate to the most conservative state that is practical for you to move to. "Circle the wagons" with people who share your values.
The lies of the woke tyrants cannot be made more clear than this brave author made clear. And the woke's lies pervade every aspect of our lives.
Will Bari Weiss and the other partially red-pilled "liberals" finally support leaders who understand this and have the courage to fight with those of us who see no alternative but to fight in every sane and practical way to save our once great nation. Will they support Ron DeSantis, Sen Josh Hawley? Or will they equivocate?
No. Progressives here and elsewhere will not deviate from the ingrained voting patterns that lead to such disasters. Otherwise, it would've happened long ago. Suicidal self-hatred is the very core of their raison d'ètre. I have no doubt whatsoever that the author of this piece will never support any candidate that is not explicitly vetted by the Democratic Party, and their record of catastrophic social policies.
These pieces always remind of the old B-movie trope "Stop me before I kill again!" LOL
My friend's bio daughter has been on this track since she was 12; she'll be 18 in March. Parents only allow her to bind, nothing else. She will thank them a million times over in a few more years.
This has been going on a long, long time......and you know it.
Correction: adopted daughter; my friend is the adoptive parent.
If a psychologist would have actually met with her to find out what was really going on in the 6th grade rather than just affirm these feelings, she may have revealed that her biological mother (who she has an open adoption relationship with) went on to get married and has three sons. How do we know that deep in her subconscious she might think she would have been kept by her biological mother if she had been born a boy. We may never know now.
Maybe you just started discussing it last year, but it was being discussed well before that. Abigail Shrier's book, Irreversible Damage, was published in 2020, and obviously, all her concern about the issue and research came from years before that.
I guess your ideological blinders prevented you from reading further in Elizabeth's post, to wit: "and obviously, all her concern about the issue and research came from years before that."
Oh, yes....I'm sure SHE was concerned...but YOU weren't and neither were the majority of people until last year. So, give me break that this has been something on the major cultural radar until recently.
If it weren't for Matt Walsh and Christopher Rufo, 99% of people wouldn't even know about all the stuff they're told to be concerned about.
So, I guess YOUR ideological blinders prevent you from seeing basic reality.
Please ignore this guy and get to work. It is literally going to take all of us, working together. Here are some websites to get started. This guy is a complete distraction.
This "stuff" has been discussed for years. Good friends of ours have been watching helplessly as their nut-job daughter-in-law (a therapist no less!) has convinced her daughter (adopted) since she was 8 years old that she's a boy. Last year she moved into hormonal treatments, and I'm sure she will soon be pushing for surgery any day now that the girl (oops, boy!) is 13. All this started 5 years ago, not "last year". Children's Hospital of Philadelphia (CHOP) was even at that time performing surgeries, so you have no idea what you're talking about with your made-up timeline.
The lunacy has been going on a long time in many forms.
Look at you: you daily demonstrate an utterly illiberal inability to recognize the validity of dissenting views, and with your handle it seems likely you are exposing our children to your bad ideas somewhere.
Common sense is not complicated. What is complicated is rationalizing obvious stupidity.
I give the same amount of validity to opinions from others as they give to mine.
Yes, you are right. I scream at white "children" (undergrad & grad) about how they're all oppressors, then I take off 10 points from their final grade for reparations, demand everyone uses pronouns and mutilate their genitalia.
Yes....I used common sense, which how I figured out no one moved their entire family to Asia to get away from trans lunacy that just started being discussed mainstream in late 2021. Kinda like people discovered "illiberal" as a buzzword....which by the way doesn't mean "you don't give other opinions validity."
Now, does ANYONE on here have any data about how many kids are transitioning or interacting with these clinics? I would legitimately like to know.
Wait, so you're lying when later you say you already knew but you were just making sure everyone did his own research? Because you're Comprof, of course. Ever the vigilant professor? You fork-tongued bloviator. You do make a really good pinata, though.
I just moved my family to Costa Rica to protect them from trans-lunacy and the first other family I met here was from the east coast doing the same thing.
People spend too much time being baited by your comments. But, it's now time for us to show you the door. We've all got work to do. Adios, sir.
We were planning on living here for one year. After the midterm results, we're not so sure. It's an amazing country.
I spend all day fighting against nonsense legislation in the U.S. My dad was a WWII vet (I'm the youngest of 13) and I think I have a duty to fight for the values so many people died for. Trying to embrace Pura Vida, but it's hard when the U.S. is collapsing before my eyes.
And, learning Spanish is harder than I remember from school. :)
100 clinics did not appear overnight, this has been going on for a long time, it is only now that is coming to the surface . Brown U. prof’s data on “social contagion”
Whatever the number, it is too many. It is totally illogical and ridiculous to say that anyone is born in the wrong body. Maybe some who are mentally disturbed, but no normal person would ever say that. It has been exacerbated by social media and it has been so lucrative to the medical industrial complex and to big Pharma. I just hope we stop this insanity.
It didn't start in 2021. According to the article, the uptick started in 2015. I noticed it personally about ten years ago, and started warning my children.
Not only is there a skyrocketing number of clinics, in other countries they are already starting to be closed. I suppose you haven't heard of the Tavistock debacle or of how some Scandinavian countries are stopping this barbarism.
Reuters has some data from Komodo Research through 2021. Based on insurance claims so doesn't include anything paid for out of pocket, and because of phrases like medical treatment of one form or another to "help alleviate their distress," and "After suppressing puberty, a child may pursue hormone treatments to initiate a puberty that aligns with their gender identity" assume extreme pro-transition bias. Results are tragic & market share of surgical treatment expected to more than double from $1.9 billion in 2021 to $5 billion by 2030.
One of the more fun factoids: "The Komodo analysis of insurance claims found 56 genital surgeries among patients ages 13 to 17 with a prior gender dysphoria diagnosis from 2019 to 2021. Among teens, “top surgery” to remove breasts is more common. In the three years ending in 2021, at least 776 mastectomies were performed in the United States on patients ages 13 to 17 with a gender dysphoria diagnosis, according to Komodo’s data analysis of insurance claims. This tally does not include procedures that were paid for out of pocket." And I wonder what happens to incidence not specifically tied to a diagnosis, but that's just me.
THIS TRANSGENDER TREND IS SO PERNICIOUS FOR YOUNG WOMEN. Please ignore this guy and get to work. It is literally going to take all of us, working together.
So you think it's some kind of medical "efficiency" that causes children to lose their genitals and their breasts & at the same time inflates the numbers? You are one sick, smug puppy.
Probably understated, given the sources, and doesn't include 2022, increase during which time was not linear. Now, are you saying you're happy with that outcome?? These kids between 13 & 17. You're happy that the bodies of these children, & likely their ability to have children, is permanently destroyed by parents who are using them as hood ornaments? (the kids, not the genitals, though I wouldn't be surprised if some progressive mother who beat the astounding odds of more people on the planet to 1 against having 2 trans kids would be waving those kids' Bobbitted penises from her antenna).
This was a few keystrokes' worth of searching--the info is easy to find; for everyone but you, apparently. I mean, if you want a full review of the literature you're going to have to pay me in more than bullshit or do it yourself.
Here's another factoid from the same article: "A total of 17,683 patients, ages 6 through 17, with a prior gender dysphoria diagnosis initiated either puberty blockers or hormones or both during the five-year period." Did you hear that? SIX through 17. If that's something that gets your approval you're way more malign than I thought, & that's saying a lot.
Hilarious that you anchored your entire bad-faith position on the idea that this just started last year and now you are demanding data.
You, as a simpleton hack, are still in the “it’s not happening” phase. I will let you know when it is time to switch over to “it’s good that it’s happening”.
I don’t know. The Bible says they win and there’s an apocalypse. I’ve got that one plague with weird looking grasshoppers coming from a lab where they are trying to make insect food with gain of function for more protein and the insects escape and etc etc etc
The author said there were 100 such clinics. We already know that there are such clinics run by hospitals associated with major universities because they publicly announced it. Maybe someone would know if we didn't have an administration who has a comedic admiral in a dress. At least Klinger was only a corporal. And, fictional, to boot.
"Anyone who raised doubts ran the risk of being called a transphobe. "
Name calling is the first line of defense a leftist uses. It is designed to stifle any debate and the reason they don't want debate is because they have no solid ground to stand on and if you push them for a reasonable response they change the subject and leave in a self righteous huff.
Like comprof, they have this smug, superior attitude that they are intellectually better than the unwashed masses. Comprof comes off as "I'm an educated (inarticulate) college professor (a claim I dispute). How dare you question me, you uneducated boob. Plus, I am a sensitive, caring liberal and you are a NAZI, uncaring, racist, uneducated, brutal dolt. How dare you question me!"
Bruce, do you think I have summed this up, nailed it?
THIS TRANSGENDER TREND IS SO PERNICIOUS FOR YOUNG WOMEN. Please ignore this guy and get to work. It is literally going to take all of us, working together.
Hey genius, go look it up yourself, it's all out there. No one here is obligated to give you the data you demand -- as if that will stop your juvenile commenting anyway.
You can find plenty of data on this in the cass report on the UK, as a starting point - the US practices are more liberal and less tracked but no reason to think they're wildly different.. if anything probably worse.
"anyone have data on how many kids under 18 have gone through transition surgery or interacting with these clinics?"
Isn't that why we have a government? But when the government is in the hands of lunatics supporting this lunacy, do you really expect them to investigate it? Let alone end the madness?
My daughter and her husband have asked that their kids’ personal information be limited. I never post pictures of them anywhere. I don’t use their names or specifics about their location.
The eldest grandchild is in elementary school. The youngest is a toddler. They left the US when the eldest was three.
Fishing has a lot of aspects: sometimes the most effective way for a lazy fisherman who doesn't feel like doing his homework is trolling. Rather than do the work of studying his game, the lazy fisherman just hangs some bait on his hook and drives his boat and see who bites. It's a very lazy way to fish but sometimes pretty effective. The only way to discourage such a fisherman is for fish not to bite.
I never said they moved solely because of the trans lunacy. I said that the trans lunacy coupled with the erosion of parental control over their progeny in multiple fora is one of the primary reasons they’ve decided to remain outside the country.
See: CA and WA.
So yes this subject absolutely is a major factor in their family calculus regarding whether and when to return.
If I had children that age, I would homeschool or move, if possible to a country where this is not happening. Who wants to see their children destroyed?
Seriously Comprof2.0, if your intent here is to convince anyone of anything other than that you are a fool, you are failing. In fact, you are drumming up more and more support for those you badger.
Maybe my grandchildren will move back to the US before they graduate high school.
My daughter and SIL are currently raising them in Asia to keep them away from this lunacy.
We moved to Costa Rica to protect my daughters, aged 12 and 15 from this bullshit. Their private school in Colorado, Colorado Academy, had several girls convinced they were boys.
I totally support what you are doing. You are only a very small minority of people with the ability to do such a radical move. What's more, it will lead to people like yourself being the leaders of what is left after these feral monsters get done torching the world with their sickness of mind. It seems the two ends of the economic spectrum, those who can escape entirely such as you, and those far below me on the spectrum, too rooted in reality to be indocrinated, will be those left standing. Praise God. It now just all depends on how much damage the Wokies can do in the meantime.
Insane!
Funny, I was looking around purple states for a non-woke high school and actually looked (on-line) at Colorado Academy. We left the hot bed of Manhattan and yep, this stuff is being introduced at child’s new (non-NYC) independent K-8 school.
It’s frightening!
Here's how it is working between the "health professionals," schools, legislators and your children in many states. We are from Colorado so here's the CO example:
1. Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment ("CDPHE") contracts with The University of Colorado Anschutz Medical Center (“Anschutz”) to survey kids about their mental health issues.
2. In 2021, Healthy Kids Colorado Survey was given to more than 106,000 students, in grades 6-12 attending 340 schools in 51 different counties in Colorado. www.coloradokids.org
3. Question #3 of the Survey asks kids to state their gender identity. Questions 4 and 5 ask questions specifically about transgenderism.
4. Questions are "aggregated and anonymized" by Anschutz to populate CDPHE's public data dashboard. In other words, CDPHE can't tell me which schools were surveyed. Schools have no duty to tell parents any information about kids social transitioning in school.
5. CRS 12-245-2035, codified in 2019, allows "youth who are 12 and over to have legal access to outpatient psychotherapy services that might otherwise be unavailable without the consent of or notification to the youth's parent or legal guardian."
https://casetext.com/statute/colorado-revised-statutes/title-12-professions-and-occupations/health-care-professions-and-occupations/article-245-mental-health/part-2-general-provisions/section-12-245-2035-minors-consent-for-outpatient-psychotherapy-services-immunity-definition
6. HB 23-1003, currently about to become law, creates a Mental Health Assessment program, administered by CDPHE that specifies that "students 12 and over may consent to participate in a mental health questionnaire (presumably the same one as above), administered by a Qualified Provider who can direct additional treatment of the student without the parent's consent. Presumably all the referrals are for “specialists” at Anschutz.
https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb23-1003
7. Under the American Academy of Pediatrics (“AAP”), gender-affirming care for adolescents is medically necessary and appropriate. The AAP isn’t saying that it might be medically necessary and appropriate. AAP providers do not need to make a finding of medical necessity. https://www.aap.org/en/news-room/aap-voices/why-we-stand-up-for-transgender-children-and-teens/
8. Anshutz has a huge educational program aimed at "convey[ing] the core concepts of gender-affirming care to prescribing primary care providers interested in improving care for transgender and gender non-binary patients." https://medschool.cuanschutz.edu/docs/librariesprovider323/default-document-library/transgender-health---core-concepts-for-primary-care.pdf?sfvrsn=b5e4f2ba_2
9. Anschutz will happily provide any and all gender-affirming related services as part of its Transgender Program.
https://www.uchealth.org/services/diabetes-endocrinology-care/uchealth-integrated-transgender-program/
10. Anshutz has 29 different providers that can help your minor with his/her "transgender journey."
https://www.uchealth.org/provider/
11. Sex-reassignment surgery was valued at $1.9B for 2021 and “and is expected to expand at a compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 11.23% from 2022 to 2030.”
https://www.grandviewresearch.com/industry-analysis/us-sex-reassignment-surgery-market
Sorry for the long post!
OMG. Thank you for the detailed post.
"Anshutz" even sounds like "Auschwitz".
Both involve eugenics movements.
"Echoes of Eugenics: What the Doctors Trial at Nuremberg Means for Us in the US" https://pitt.substack.com/p/echoes-of-eugenics-what-the-doctors
Where's the new school? Colorado Academy teaches gender ideology as early as Kindergarten. We are in the process of undoing all the ideological training. We paid a ton of money to have our kids' minds totally poisoned.
Same here - our daughter's mind was poisoned at an Independent high school in another state. We paid a ton for it as well.
A friend of mine that pulled her kids out of private school said the funniest, albeit tragic, statement: "Well, you can get it for free or you can pay for it."
Have you taken the phone away? Or at the very least, put monitors on it? Ditto on their computers? Ensured they aren't on harmful Social media apps, like Tiktok?
If you're not using one, it doesn't matter what school your kid goes to, they will get indoctrinated.
I'd ensure they go nowhere near TikTok or Discord.
Here's a link to some parental control apps: https://www.tomsguide.com/us/best-parental-control-apps,review-2258.html
I use this: https://www.mcafee.com/en-us/parental-controls/mcafee-safe-family.html
Shuts the phones down at bedtime, and lets me know what they're using, and also has a phone tracker, so I know where they are as well.
JakeD:
This is so helpful. Thank you for the links.
I worry about my younger daughter, 12 who is very impressionable. She won't get a phone until 8th grade or later, but she has access to her IPad and my phone and my husband's phone. She is sneaky.
She was checking out Deviant Art on my mom's phone. So, I had her watch TV in my bedroom so I could keep an eye on her and she started watching a bunch of anime. I would need a phD in computer engineering to keep up with her hacking skills.
This was back in 5th grade, two years ago and she had several non-binary/trans kids in her class (all biological females). Back then, we didn't realize the pernicious progression of this nonsense; we were piecing it together.
It seems to go something like this: pronouns glorified at school > Deviant art website > Discord > Anime > Tiktok> GSA (Gay Straight Alliance which is now Gender Sexuality Alliance -- although our school denied this even though they were well aware of the rebranding) > social transitioning > puberty blockers > "top surgery." Shriver discusses a lot of this. Have any parents seen additional pathways?
Yes, it's a dangerous world. I also have conversations, probably once a month about the perniciousness and the danger of the transgender ideology. And I contrast it with how the world was...oh, up until ten years ago.
And though they sometimes go around my methods of watching them (with the apps and such), and it's no fun punishing kids (they seem not to understand that we don't buy them things for the sole purpose of the joy we get from taking them away!), in the end, I feel a lot safer knowing that they're avoiding all the "crazy" out there.
I liked this comment on today's PITT substack which is a letter to the NYT:
"Follow the money. The billionaire pritzker family makes money from trans drugs. Name, shame, and punish all the doctors who harm children: https://yuribezmenov.substack.com/p/how-to-do-no-harm-part-2"
Good for you! My husband and I knew that transexual "rights" were on the rise when our daughter ROGDed but never imagined it would jump out of the middle aged men category or be promoted in high school. Perhaps parents today do have one advantage in that they know they need to tell their kids that sex is binary - a too obvious fact for us to have thought of discussing in 2017. She chastised us for never telling her about the weird nonsense - like it was truth we kept from her.
I agree that safety controls are good. I also think that having kids use computers and televisions out in the open where you can see what they watch is best. Then, if something disturbing comes up you have a chance to discuss it. Pretty much all content on TV seems to be laced with GI now. You really cannot keep this entirely away from your daughter because it is the culture now. This is why I want to see GI debunked and a museum made to the atrocities that transpired. Something you can do is get your child busy with real things in the real world - especially in nature. Maybe she could get a small job dog walking? Or, is there a nearby farm where she might pitch-in? 4thwavenow.com came before PITT and the mother who ran that site sent her teen daughter to work at a horse farm & she desisted. Maybe a little preemptive dog walking would be good?
I've had my kids computers in the open and we use them all in the same room. Even my 21 year old, still living at home son still has his computer in the same place it was seven years ago.
Hi JakeD. You offer good advice. But... nothing will be enough until society understands that GI is junk science and a junk civil rights movement wrapped up into a cult.
Our feminine daughter was half way through high school with a flip phone when we learned she'd been groomed by other kids at school. We didn't even know that any girls or women went for transexuality but we were not on board with social media (without "trans" on our brains). And, our house Wifi went off at night. ROGD hit us. Abigail Shrier published her article in the WSJ and later her book which I eagerly awaited. Lisa Littman published a study. I couldn't believe that the NYT and everywhere else just published rah rah articles like those of "Jennifer" Boylan. And, no one cared about this issue in the last election. What good are "conservatives" who cannot conserve our daughters? Now, we have First Female 4 Star Admiral Richard Levine running policy and a Supreme Court Justice who does not know what a woman is.
Our former high school now invites "FTMs" (Cosmetically Masculinized Women who I prefer to call CMW) to assemblies to talk about their lived experiences - or something.
Families move, they try to cut off everything, but just like with Anorexia and Bomelia, it finds girls in every society that hears about it. The difference is that we never celebrated those. They didn't make fetished men feel validated. People were not making vast sums of money off of them. And, there was not this potential to use body parts to fulfill a sick fantasy. Have you seen this one? https://townhall.com/tipsheet/madelineleesman/2023/01/16/childrens-hospital-talks-about-uterus-transplants-n2618349 Have you noticed that we are not allowed to say that anything at all is sick? It isn't kind. We even have the normalization of pedophilia movement with MAPS. Ok, maybe an infinitesimal number of men had this thing called Gender Identity Disorder, but lets face that it is a mental disorder - even if some of them "treat" (damage) their bodies for it.
These days our young adult daughter is very busy doing some real things in the real world. She is loving again, physically unhurt, and I suspect mostly desisted. No one in the family ever went for a nut name or pronoun so she doesn't have to explain anything to us. But, I think it is embarrassing for young people to admit they made a goof - especially with peers...
These days I want justice. I want to see some "experts" lose their licenses. I want to see jail time. I'd be fine with bringing back the gallows for a few. Examples need to be made (legally). - LM
Sorry for the delay in response.
While I agree that society needs to change - that takes time, and kids are being impacted NOW. I am recommending things that can be done now, today, so that some protections can be made and the transgender attack fought back against.
Obviously, some of those wouldn't have worked in your situation, and I can only imagine how hard all that must have been that you've had to deal with. I'm also thankful that you and your daughter have come out the other side, safe and whole.
In the end, nothing beats attentive and involved parenting, but parents can't be there all the time, and whatever tools we can find to help in this rapidly changing world, help fill the gap.
Thank you JakeD. I appreciate your responses and we are in firm agreement.
Maybe depending on circumstances and the degree to which this trans travesty grows and infiltrates all spaces, it will be impossible for some to protect their children. That's why I think hard about how it can be taken down. It's junk science and a junk "civil rights movement" in need of being exposed to the public. Then, I think we need to see a few - like Richard Levine - serve jail time for promoting the mutilation of children based on pseudoscience.
Agreed. And on the positive side, it seems like almost daily, we're seeing some of this being peeled back. In an odd way, we can thank Elon Musk - we might just owe our country to him at some point, since one of Twitter's chief content moderators was himself a Trans! Obviously, the purchase of Twitter, and the impact on the freedom of speech, and now things like the "Twitter Files" - all have impacted the level of discourse in this country.
And it seems like, while the tide hasn't turned, at least there's acknowledgement that there's actually a battle to be fought.
Thank you for this hopeful post.
To think that American liberty might just have come down to Elon Musk. I think he fired most of the "content moderators".
Where I live most people don't seem to have heard of the Twitter Files or have any awareness of the Trans Travesty around them even though so many girls suffer. Still, I think that bubble will be popped as word spreads in other places - and I am hopeful that Chloe Cole wins big and that we get a President DeSantis.
Loving Mother- I am sorry for the pain your daughter and self have had to endure at the hands of the school and healthcare union that abused your child. The abuse is rampant and pervasive. The Catholic Church of the 1970's have nothing on the gender identity abuse being thrust on kids. Imagine if the Cardinal of Boston said- 'The priest was not a child rapist of the altar boy- he was just Minor Attracted Person acting out. We will now send him to NM to recover"
They should lose license first and prosecute for neglect for sure. However this candle was lit a long time ago with schools & healthcare workers being involved in mandated reporters and custody cases in family court. This is where the empowerment of the beast began. Anonymous reporting that is redacted unless a criminal act is proved by the reporter. Complete lack of accountability with power. Power in the hands of people who unlike police have no training to investigate, but special policing duties to report. Due to the compartmentalization of their reports someone can easily hide a prejudice or an agenda. Most people are responsible, but if you are a bad MSW- you can cause havoc, just like the MSW's are in this story. Add money, like in custody cases and family court, and you have a lethal combination for kids and families. A whole new brand of abuse was born and in this case physicians and clinicians are lining up to reap the dollars on the souls of the kids.
Thank you, Matt C.
I agree. A large number need to lose their licenses. A smaller number - especially those who make policy - need to go to jail. But, will they?
They are the largest parasitic ticks buried in. Everyone needs to keep in mind it is not just their own liability, but the larger institutions liability that they endangered. The larger institutions are vicious. These are the same people who shield serial killers at hospitals to protect the institutions. i.e. The Good Nurse on Netflix. They will not report deaths and disfigurements to protect liability. These people need to be made criminally liable for hiding things like this. Once you know or suspect something is harming or killing patients you should have a mandated reporting duty when they know there is a problem within their ecosystem like within the transgender nightmare. Also if you know you have a habitual reporter who is creating false abuse claims for custody issues or a hero complex, and yes this exists with Social Workers and Nurses, these people needed to be held criminally liable and have immediate licensure suspended and/or revoked.
I think that Federal "Female" Richard Levine (alias of Rachael) should go on criminal trail. But, I doubt it will happen as such people seem to be immune/live by different rules from the rest of us, once elevated to federal government.
I take one, and only one, exception to your comment: Rachel Levine is NOT female. :)
Right. He's a man named Richard who started going by the alias "Rachael" a few years ago.
I think that for people like him we need to start saying the truth - that he has an "alias" - not a spirit name or whatever.
I agree with every word and I'm so glad your daughter is safe.
Agree with you about the "experts." I actually think parents should start patronizing Doctors who actively disagree with the gender affirming recommendations of the AAP, in favor of gender-critical practitioners.
Thank you. I think she is...
Yes. I think it might have to be a doctor in private practice. If the doctor belongs to a medical organization it is likely the organization insists they "affirm" - at least in the US - hopefully not in Costa Rica! In some states doctors can lose their licences for being "gender-critical"/non-believers.
It's horrifying, isn't it? I actually had to write everything down because it was so surreal that I would doubt my recollection for the rest of my life if I hadn't.
Yes. I was physically shaking to find they were calling my girl a crazy name and "he". And, they refused to stop, but patronized me instead. Classroom teachers know your kid so well and you the mother must not have paid attention to her growing up or something. The other thing the teachers have been trained to do is beam and smile about it while you feel you will crumble to the ground. If someone really did have a mental disorder called gender dysphoria (which I did not think for a min our daughter did) why would you start doing a happy dance about it? The whole thing has such a cult religious nature. Like - Jesus has been found to be talking through your child! Holy holy holy holy. You've got one.
Then, since you the mother are clearly upset you are offered counseling which is all about gaslighting the parent to go along with it. Parents are pressured to attend these "support" meetings which are really all about how GI is real and getting you to believe. I did not attend.
This one really is on the adults. Teens can be driven by peers to do weird stuff - but the adults in the room? I really do think a few "experts" need jail sentences.
I am so sorry to hear about your story. I completely agree with you. The school was "agreeing" with every thing I said and then not changing a thing. My 10 year-old was having nightmares because they showed her a movie suggesting that black people were CURRENTLY in the US being handcuffed and pushed off buildings for violating curfew laws. She asked to go somewhere on spring break where segregation was illegal. There were several girls in her 4th grade class social transitioning in school. I had never heard of puberty blockers until she told me in 5th grade (!) that her classmates were taking them. I'm 48 and have voted for Democrats for most of my life. The shit that the Democrats are up to right now is so poisonous that I will never vote for another Democrat as long as I live. The overreach is horrifying.
My husband and I promised to take the year off from the stress of all this stuff in Costa Rica. But, guess what?! The first people we met had a very similar experience as yours. They were just here to keep their kids safe.
Agree with you on all fronts. Please keep fighting the fight.
Thank you for sharing your story. Terrible. It's good your family can stay in Costa Rica. So smart to leave when your daughter was so young. I am not surprised you met another family fleeing the madness. I hope the ideology does not infiltrate the culture there. Our daughter is older than yours. I don't think I'd heard of "puberty blockers" even when we had the ROGD experience in high school. I'm worried about future generations, too.
Yes, I have voted for Ds and Rs - having been an Independent all my life. I don't think I will vote for a D again and I will not vote for any R unwilling to "fight a culture war". I wonder whether Tulsi Gabbard could run on the ticket with Ron DeSantis.
Thank you for the great link you provided recently.
The American teachers at our (very normal international) school in Costa Rica are bringing it here. They are starting by talking about pronouns.
Very bad. But, at least you know to tell your daughter that the pronoun thing is bad and your family isn't for it. And, she's young so she will listen to you.
I’ve considered leaving again. I can hardly believe I’m saying that. But In truth the remedy is to stand up and fight this. Truth wins it’s just taking more time than it should.
Wish I knew how to fight this ! Especially living in a blue state!
Please, please, please check out these websites for information on who to send letters to:
https://feministstruggle.org/tag/erin-friday/
https://ourduty.group/2022/10/08/we-need-to-stop-transing-kids-now/
It is going to take every single one of us to stop this madness. As I type this, Colorado (D) legislators are trying to codify 12 year-olds access to mental health counseling (i.e., gender confusion and ideology) in schools, over the parents' objections. The school then refers the child to a gender-affirming specialist/counselor. Because it's gender affirming and not gender-critical or gender-questioning, it's a one-way ticket to puberty blockers and "top surgery" (the current euphemism for traumatic, elective radical mastectomies in minors.)
Speak the truth out loud.
EXACTLY THIS. Many times with this madness (Ukraine comes to mind) we are unable to do much as oftentimes these politicians say they will bring change but then they don't. In this case though speaking out can change things. This took hold by means of social contagion, and it will be the only way out.
We have to commit to the fight if Truth has to win!!
Grappling with what this looks like every day.
It looks like this: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gBQBxsdUznKcmP9R5whj0VNkJTEPqGHtloU7i6khEJQ/edit?usp=sharing
Kind of a boring letter, but skipping ahead to the parent testimonials will give you a very good sense of what is being done in expensive private schools. I have several pages full of horror stories told to me by parents.
Making me sick every day Mc and to think this gets Federal $$$$ we are in the twilight zone, it can’t last forever. Travistock in England has already closed down. We got to hammer away at this mad administration to stop this and stop it now!!
That’s quite a sacrifice, but I’m sure it’s worth it!
It was really hard pulling two very happy kids out of a school with their friends that they had known for years. My husband and I fought about it daily for about a year. But, believing the transgender craze to be a contagion based on Abigail Shiver's book, we figured we had to get out. He was so pissed that the school was turning our beautiful young students/girls into anxious wanna-be boys. Here's the letter that I wrote to the Board begging them to calm the hell down with gender ideology. The school was hiring gender ideology experts to teach kids about how many different genders there were to choose from. I told the Principal at a meeting that it was emotionally inappropriate for elementary and middle-school kids and he disagreed, saying it was appropriate as early as Kindergarten. I have so many horror stories. Still trying to sort it all out and live a calm life in Costa Rica.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gBQBxsdUznKcmP9R5whj0VNkJTEPqGHtloU7i6khEJQ/edit?usp=sharing
I applaud your and your husbands decision please God wherever you are you manage to grow your beautiful children into adulthood in peace take care!
Thank you for your sweet comment.
It is worth it, there a lot of people out there that know this is all wrong, we just have to find our own way forward collectively, we can vote this nonsense out of power and we must!!!
I don't see good trends in many areas in the US, be it DIE (yes I reversed two letters because it's more consistent with the outcome of putting demographic status over merit), ESG (a push based on bad science), surrendering self determination to international organizations (loss of self determination), "education", "science", and censorship. I looked at relocating, but the insanity is still spreading and other places have their own issues. If I had school age children, I would educate at home, or pool resources with like-minded people to develop a (monitored) tutor system. Opting out of many areas seems to be the only option left.
I told
My daughter that I would pay for private schools no way my grandkids are being indoctrinated while I’m still living
Even the best private schools in the country have been infiltrated, along with the religious school. This Critical Pedagogy stuff began being taught in the Education Colleges in the '90s. It's soaked through the entire pedagogy of thought in education. Wanna have your head explode? Go research 'whole word theory"...They've stopped teaching phonics as an act of 'restorative justice'. They are okay with failing to serve all but the 'under-privileged' - who they fail as well of course. Kids are learning phonics outside of school now, smart parents make sure they do. They don't really 'learn' anything anymore the way my generation thinks about learning. Rather, they are given things 'to know' and ways to navigate knowing. Imbued with hard core Marcusian Crit Theory madness.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but this stuff is everywhere.
At least relocate to the most conservative state that is practical for you to move to. "Circle the wagons" with people who share your values.
The lies of the woke tyrants cannot be made more clear than this brave author made clear. And the woke's lies pervade every aspect of our lives.
Will Bari Weiss and the other partially red-pilled "liberals" finally support leaders who understand this and have the courage to fight with those of us who see no alternative but to fight in every sane and practical way to save our once great nation. Will they support Ron DeSantis, Sen Josh Hawley? Or will they equivocate?
No. Progressives here and elsewhere will not deviate from the ingrained voting patterns that lead to such disasters. Otherwise, it would've happened long ago. Suicidal self-hatred is the very core of their raison d'ètre. I have no doubt whatsoever that the author of this piece will never support any candidate that is not explicitly vetted by the Democratic Party, and their record of catastrophic social policies.
These pieces always remind of the old B-movie trope "Stop me before I kill again!" LOL
D.I.E. (commissariat)
DIE is the right term! It’s the authoritarian way to make people comply...much like the Chinese Cultural Revolution!
BOOM! You got that right. The CCP is NOT doing this to their population, however. Wonder why?
When did they move?
Before my eldest grandchild started elementary school.
What year?
TMI. Sorry.
Lol. TMI. Yeah....because they moved way before all this trans/kids trans reeassignment stuff all started being discussed last year.
My friend's bio daughter has been on this track since she was 12; she'll be 18 in March. Parents only allow her to bind, nothing else. She will thank them a million times over in a few more years.
This has been going on a long, long time......and you know it.
Correction: adopted daughter; my friend is the adoptive parent.
If a psychologist would have actually met with her to find out what was really going on in the 6th grade rather than just affirm these feelings, she may have revealed that her biological mother (who she has an open adoption relationship with) went on to get married and has three sons. How do we know that deep in her subconscious she might think she would have been kept by her biological mother if she had been born a boy. We may never know now.
Intelligent people are capable of foresight.
No wonder I never see anything coming :-)
That I do not believe.
Aw! Thanks, Lynne :-)
Maybe you just started discussing it last year, but it was being discussed well before that. Abigail Shrier's book, Irreversible Damage, was published in 2020, and obviously, all her concern about the issue and research came from years before that.
2020? Man....that's a long time ago.
I guess your ideological blinders prevented you from reading further in Elizabeth's post, to wit: "and obviously, all her concern about the issue and research came from years before that."
Oh, yes....I'm sure SHE was concerned...but YOU weren't and neither were the majority of people until last year. So, give me break that this has been something on the major cultural radar until recently.
If it weren't for Matt Walsh and Christopher Rufo, 99% of people wouldn't even know about all the stuff they're told to be concerned about.
So, I guess YOUR ideological blinders prevent you from seeing basic reality.
Please ignore this guy and get to work. It is literally going to take all of us, working together. Here are some websites to get started. This guy is a complete distraction.
https://feministstruggle.org/tag/erin-friday/
https://ourduty.group/2022/10/08/we-need-to-stop-transing-kids-now/
It is a book very well worth reading. And I’m sure since that time there have been many more children who have been abused in this way.
This "stuff" has been discussed for years. Good friends of ours have been watching helplessly as their nut-job daughter-in-law (a therapist no less!) has convinced her daughter (adopted) since she was 8 years old that she's a boy. Last year she moved into hormonal treatments, and I'm sure she will soon be pushing for surgery any day now that the girl (oops, boy!) is 13. All this started 5 years ago, not "last year". Children's Hospital of Philadelphia (CHOP) was even at that time performing surgeries, so you have no idea what you're talking about with your made-up timeline.
The lunacy has been going on a long time in many forms.
Look at you: you daily demonstrate an utterly illiberal inability to recognize the validity of dissenting views, and with your handle it seems likely you are exposing our children to your bad ideas somewhere.
Common sense is not complicated. What is complicated is rationalizing obvious stupidity.
Your post has summed up this troll perfectly Thanks Barry!
Lol. Me asking how many kids have undergone gender reassignment surgery is trolling. Everyone has a psychiatric meltdown.
You people are pathetic.
Buh bye.
But the issue if the article was trans kids, etc
I give the same amount of validity to opinions from others as they give to mine.
Yes, you are right. I scream at white "children" (undergrad & grad) about how they're all oppressors, then I take off 10 points from their final grade for reparations, demand everyone uses pronouns and mutilate their genitalia.
Yes....I used common sense, which how I figured out no one moved their entire family to Asia to get away from trans lunacy that just started being discussed mainstream in late 2021. Kinda like people discovered "illiberal" as a buzzword....which by the way doesn't mean "you don't give other opinions validity."
Now, does ANYONE on here have any data about how many kids are transitioning or interacting with these clinics? I would legitimately like to know.
Wait, so you're lying when later you say you already knew but you were just making sure everyone did his own research? Because you're Comprof, of course. Ever the vigilant professor? You fork-tongued bloviator. You do make a really good pinata, though.
Thanks for your comment. For those of us who need to stop this MADNESS NOW, check out these sites:
https://feministstruggle.org/tag/erin-friday/
https://ourduty.group/2022/10/08/we-need-to-stop-transing-kids-now/
There's so much work to do. Ignore this guy.
Read this....think it helps answer your question.
https://quillette.com/2023/02/10/social-contagion-and-transgender-identities/
I just moved my family to Costa Rica to protect them from trans-lunacy and the first other family I met here was from the east coast doing the same thing.
People spend too much time being baited by your comments. But, it's now time for us to show you the door. We've all got work to do. Adios, sir.
So now you're a Tico?
The surfing is great there. Can't wait to go back.
We were planning on living here for one year. After the midterm results, we're not so sure. It's an amazing country.
I spend all day fighting against nonsense legislation in the U.S. My dad was a WWII vet (I'm the youngest of 13) and I think I have a duty to fight for the values so many people died for. Trying to embrace Pura Vida, but it's hard when the U.S. is collapsing before my eyes.
And, learning Spanish is harder than I remember from school. :)
100 clinics did not appear overnight, this has been going on for a long time, it is only now that is coming to the surface . Brown U. prof’s data on “social contagion”
Fascinating. Really.
You basicslly repeating what I'm saying. No one was talking about this or CRT until Matt Walsh and Chris Rufo started talking about it last year.
Perhaps you have only been following this since late 2021. Also someone with young children would have seen the signs of it earlier.
Whatever the number, it is too many. It is totally illogical and ridiculous to say that anyone is born in the wrong body. Maybe some who are mentally disturbed, but no normal person would ever say that. It has been exacerbated by social media and it has been so lucrative to the medical industrial complex and to big Pharma. I just hope we stop this insanity.
It didn't start in 2021. According to the article, the uptick started in 2015. I noticed it personally about ten years ago, and started warning my children.
Trans lunacy may not have been the only trigger. It could be the larger culture and the education system it has created.
Not "may not," it "wasn't" - which was my point.
Yes, it is an epidemic.
Not only is there a skyrocketing number of clinics, in other countries they are already starting to be closed. I suppose you haven't heard of the Tavistock debacle or of how some Scandinavian countries are stopping this barbarism.
Reuters has some data from Komodo Research through 2021. Based on insurance claims so doesn't include anything paid for out of pocket, and because of phrases like medical treatment of one form or another to "help alleviate their distress," and "After suppressing puberty, a child may pursue hormone treatments to initiate a puberty that aligns with their gender identity" assume extreme pro-transition bias. Results are tragic & market share of surgical treatment expected to more than double from $1.9 billion in 2021 to $5 billion by 2030.
One of the more fun factoids: "The Komodo analysis of insurance claims found 56 genital surgeries among patients ages 13 to 17 with a prior gender dysphoria diagnosis from 2019 to 2021. Among teens, “top surgery” to remove breasts is more common. In the three years ending in 2021, at least 776 mastectomies were performed in the United States on patients ages 13 to 17 with a gender dysphoria diagnosis, according to Komodo’s data analysis of insurance claims. This tally does not include procedures that were paid for out of pocket." And I wonder what happens to incidence not specifically tied to a diagnosis, but that's just me.
https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-transyouth-data/
https://www.grandviewresearch.com/industry-analysis/us-sex-reassignment-surgery-market
That may be the most confusing and unintelligible collection of words I have ever read.
Maybe take it up with reuters & grandview? I can't address your ability to comprehend.
Good. So, 56 genital surgeries and 776 masectomies, some of which cases probably overlap/had both done.
See....that wasn't so hard, was it?
Thanks again for your comment.
THIS TRANSGENDER TREND IS SO PERNICIOUS FOR YOUNG WOMEN. Please ignore this guy and get to work. It is literally going to take all of us, working together.
https://feministstruggle.org/tag/erin-friday/
https://ourduty.group/2022/10/08/we-need-to-stop-transing-kids-now/
So you think it's some kind of medical "efficiency" that causes children to lose their genitals and their breasts & at the same time inflates the numbers? You are one sick, smug puppy.
Probably understated, given the sources, and doesn't include 2022, increase during which time was not linear. Now, are you saying you're happy with that outcome?? These kids between 13 & 17. You're happy that the bodies of these children, & likely their ability to have children, is permanently destroyed by parents who are using them as hood ornaments? (the kids, not the genitals, though I wouldn't be surprised if some progressive mother who beat the astounding odds of more people on the planet to 1 against having 2 trans kids would be waving those kids' Bobbitted penises from her antenna).
This was a few keystrokes' worth of searching--the info is easy to find; for everyone but you, apparently. I mean, if you want a full review of the literature you're going to have to pay me in more than bullshit or do it yourself.
Here's another factoid from the same article: "A total of 17,683 patients, ages 6 through 17, with a prior gender dysphoria diagnosis initiated either puberty blockers or hormones or both during the five-year period." Did you hear that? SIX through 17. If that's something that gets your approval you're way more malign than I thought, & that's saying a lot.
So easy why not have just done it yourself?
Hilarious that you anchored your entire bad-faith position on the idea that this just started last year and now you are demanding data.
You, as a simpleton hack, are still in the “it’s not happening” phase. I will let you know when it is time to switch over to “it’s good that it’s happening”.
Don’t engage Kevin!
The Good News is that if "Comprof" represents "the other side," than our side--the side of justice and righteousness--will prevail.
If they can't call you a "transphobe," they got nothin.'
I don’t know. The Bible says they win and there’s an apocalypse. I’ve got that one plague with weird looking grasshoppers coming from a lab where they are trying to make insect food with gain of function for more protein and the insects escape and etc etc etc
😂😂😵💫😵💫
The author said there were 100 such clinics. We already know that there are such clinics run by hospitals associated with major universities because they publicly announced it. Maybe someone would know if we didn't have an administration who has a comedic admiral in a dress. At least Klinger was only a corporal. And, fictional, to boot.
Check out this link for financial information about the sex reassignment industry. It lists some of the big players.
https://www.grandviewresearch.com/industry-analysis/us-sex-reassignment-surgery-market
Wow, thank you! - LM
Here's one from PITT that charts the child gender clinics in the US:
https://pitt.substack.com/p/why-is-this-happening-and-who-can
Yeah, back in the day, "Corporal Klinger" was a joke...now he(?) is running our health care system...guess the joke is on the rest of us now.
"Anyone who raised doubts ran the risk of being called a transphobe. "
Name calling is the first line of defense a leftist uses. It is designed to stifle any debate and the reason they don't want debate is because they have no solid ground to stand on and if you push them for a reasonable response they change the subject and leave in a self righteous huff.
Like comprof, they have this smug, superior attitude that they are intellectually better than the unwashed masses. Comprof comes off as "I'm an educated (inarticulate) college professor (a claim I dispute). How dare you question me, you uneducated boob. Plus, I am a sensitive, caring liberal and you are a NAZI, uncaring, racist, uneducated, brutal dolt. How dare you question me!"
Bruce, do you think I have summed this up, nailed it?
Polecat, you well know that if the Left can't namecall, it can't say anything at all.
Come on, this guy thinks a snarky remark and "LOL" is a valid answer to all questions. He thinks anal extrapolation is a researched, valid answer.
I already know how many clinics, but that wasn't the question was it?
There's probably at least 100 auto repair shops, too.
Does anyone have data on how many kids under 18 have gone through transition surgery or interacting with these clinics?
Yeah...don't think someone wearing a dress is inhibiting the collection of this data.
Thanks again for your comment.
THIS TRANSGENDER TREND IS SO PERNICIOUS FOR YOUNG WOMEN. Please ignore this guy and get to work. It is literally going to take all of us, working together.
https://feministstruggle.org/tag/erin-friday/
https://ourduty.group/2022/10/08/we-need-to-stop-transing-kids-now/
Hey genius, go look it up yourself, it's all out there. No one here is obligated to give you the data you demand -- as if that will stop your juvenile commenting anyway.
You can find plenty of data on this in the cass report on the UK, as a starting point - the US practices are more liberal and less tracked but no reason to think they're wildly different.. if anything probably worse.
See above.
"anyone have data on how many kids under 18 have gone through transition surgery or interacting with these clinics?"
Isn't that why we have a government? But when the government is in the hands of lunatics supporting this lunacy, do you really expect them to investigate it? Let alone end the madness?
My daughter and her husband have asked that their kids’ personal information be limited. I never post pictures of them anywhere. I don’t use their names or specifics about their location.
The eldest grandchild is in elementary school. The youngest is a toddler. They left the US when the eldest was three.
That enough for you?
Fishing has a lot of aspects: sometimes the most effective way for a lazy fisherman who doesn't feel like doing his homework is trolling. Rather than do the work of studying his game, the lazy fisherman just hangs some bait on his hook and drives his boat and see who bites. It's a very lazy way to fish but sometimes pretty effective. The only way to discourage such a fisherman is for fish not to bite.
Yep. Confirms the move had nothing to do with the issue/s of the article.
I never said they moved solely because of the trans lunacy. I said that the trans lunacy coupled with the erosion of parental control over their progeny in multiple fora is one of the primary reasons they’ve decided to remain outside the country.
See: CA and WA.
So yes this subject absolutely is a major factor in their family calculus regarding whether and when to return.
Marie - ignore the troll. There is absolutely nothing sincere about trying to drill into your family’s situation.
If I had children that age, I would homeschool or move, if possible to a country where this is not happening. Who wants to see their children destroyed?
Go back and read your initial comment.
Seriously Comprof2.0, if your intent here is to convince anyone of anything other than that you are a fool, you are failing. In fact, you are drumming up more and more support for those you badger.
I’m giggling here a bit contemplating the seeming reality that you HONESTLY believe you are being clever and perhaps even adding something.
You need to get out more, and have face to face conversations with intelligent people, rather than work ao hard to misunderstand obvious points.
You don’t owe It (I don’t want to assume pronouns) anything.