I don’t think anyone demonized those who created a vaccine. You clearly missed the point. The vaccine wouldn’t have been necessary in the first place if Dr Evil had not been lying and messing around with gain of function.
And spare me the AIDS nonsense. Do some research on his involvement in that.
I don’t think anyone demonized those who created a vaccine. You clearly missed the point. The vaccine wouldn’t have been necessary in the first place if Dr Evil had not been lying and messing around with gain of function.
And spare me the AIDS nonsense. Do some research on his involvement in that.
I have sympathy and compassion for the beagles this scum abused. I have nothing but contempt for the human garbage named Fauci.
"The vaccine wouldn’t have been necessary in the first place if Dr Evil had not been lying and messing around with gain of function." This is absolutely not an established fact. Please don't tell me to do research; if you knew how to do research you'd know not to take for fact things that don't haven't been proved. You'd know to pay attention to the vast majority of scientists instead of some Republicans on a select committee with an axe to grind, or some talking heads, or the handful of iconoclast scientists who insist they know better than 90% of their colleagues. Science isn't black and white. You have to be able to understand nuance and shades of gray to fathom it. That makes a lot of people squirmy.
Are you a scientist, by the way? Why do you think you have the knowledge to school experts in the field? My husband's family, all fervent Trump supporters (and all of whom I love), routinely questioned my husband and cast doubt on his research. They'd send him youtube videos of some random dude making ridiculous conspiracy and anti-science claims and be like "but what do you say about *this?*" Like it was a gotcha. Just... for heavens sake.
"I don’t think anyone demonized those who created a vaccine." Absolutely they have:
"I hope you die’: how the COVID pandemic unleashed attacks on scientists
Also, to be clear, I wasn't intending to say it's definitely not from the Wuhan lab. Just that it's not clear: "One of many articles written on this subject. Without surprise now 4 years (2024) from the pandemic onset, it is doubtful we’ll know for sure without more disclosure from the Chinese government." (from a Johns Hopkins article behind a paywall) The answer to the question is the unsatisfying, "We don't know."
I don’t think you were snotty. And I’m very sad that people treated your husband poorly. That’s unacceptable- because work like his is critical not just for covid but for the potential for other diseases. What we learned is vitally important and so was his role.
Thank you for saying that. I really appreciate it. I don't think the country ever recognized how hard these people worked - from every level in public health, science, community organizations, medicine. It was insane. Total mobilization. Anyway, I appreciate your kindness.
I don’t think anyone demonized those who created a vaccine. You clearly missed the point. The vaccine wouldn’t have been necessary in the first place if Dr Evil had not been lying and messing around with gain of function.
And spare me the AIDS nonsense. Do some research on his involvement in that.
I have sympathy and compassion for the beagles this scum abused. I have nothing but contempt for the human garbage named Fauci.
"The vaccine wouldn’t have been necessary in the first place if Dr Evil had not been lying and messing around with gain of function." This is absolutely not an established fact. Please don't tell me to do research; if you knew how to do research you'd know not to take for fact things that don't haven't been proved. You'd know to pay attention to the vast majority of scientists instead of some Republicans on a select committee with an axe to grind, or some talking heads, or the handful of iconoclast scientists who insist they know better than 90% of their colleagues. Science isn't black and white. You have to be able to understand nuance and shades of gray to fathom it. That makes a lot of people squirmy.
Are you a scientist, by the way? Why do you think you have the knowledge to school experts in the field? My husband's family, all fervent Trump supporters (and all of whom I love), routinely questioned my husband and cast doubt on his research. They'd send him youtube videos of some random dude making ridiculous conspiracy and anti-science claims and be like "but what do you say about *this?*" Like it was a gotcha. Just... for heavens sake.
"I don’t think anyone demonized those who created a vaccine." Absolutely they have:
"I hope you die’: how the COVID pandemic unleashed attacks on scientists
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02741-x
Oh - that's behind a paywall. Here
https://media.nature.com/original/magazine-assets/d41586-021-02741-x/19756934
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2806018
"Of 359 respondents, 228 (64%) reported harassment related to comments made about the COVID-19 pandemic..."
P.S. I'm sorry that was snotty.
Also, to be clear, I wasn't intending to say it's definitely not from the Wuhan lab. Just that it's not clear: "One of many articles written on this subject. Without surprise now 4 years (2024) from the pandemic onset, it is doubtful we’ll know for sure without more disclosure from the Chinese government." (from a Johns Hopkins article behind a paywall) The answer to the question is the unsatisfying, "We don't know."
I don’t think you were snotty. And I’m very sad that people treated your husband poorly. That’s unacceptable- because work like his is critical not just for covid but for the potential for other diseases. What we learned is vitally important and so was his role.
Thank you for saying that. I really appreciate it. I don't think the country ever recognized how hard these people worked - from every level in public health, science, community organizations, medicine. It was insane. Total mobilization. Anyway, I appreciate your kindness.