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The Chinese started a company and people used it. They didn't get people hooked, the people who used it did. If we don't want our kids to get hooked on social media sites, don't let them use them. You are their parent, not their buddy, you are there to guide them, not let them roam around free. TikTok is an tool of indoctrination, just as is the education system, teach your kids how to gain epistemic knowledge based on the definition of knowledge = justifiable true belief, and TikTok will hold little allurer for them.

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"centrist democrats " LOL

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A close associate is an adolescent psychiatrist and has named this new psychiatric syndrome Tiktokosis.

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Geoffrey you're a bit late on this. Vloggers were documenting the differences in content Chinese got vs. Americans back in 2020-21 and Trump was going to ban and he lost. But he was awful so it's ok.

Nothing will be done here at all as the Bidens are marching in lockstep and the propaganda will continue because it works for China. And that's fine, right?

A great place to go see how far back this was being discussed is YouTube and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3AeHmX13bA

( YT: Laowhy86 / serpentza / the China Show ) - two guys that fell in love with China and then fled after their vlogging attracted PLA attention...

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Thank you thank you thank you 👏

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But NOT a new clunker.

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Like the opioid crisis, the Tic Tok crisis starts with Government Officials more worried about money and influence than doing what is in the public's good. The Congress is an absolute disgrace. Do your jobs.

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The best action a government could take to end the opioid crisis is to take the multibillion dollar trade out of the hands of criminals by replacing Prohibition with legal regulated addiction maintenance by medical professionals, while decoupling prescriptions from profiteering by forbidding drug company rewards to physicians and a regime of due diligence about the clientele (it's easy to diagnose legitimately opioid-dependent people; they go into withdrawal when given Narcan) and strict controls to prevent diversion. The diversion of Oxycontin and other opioid pills, the original source of the problem, could have been largely shut down if all of the states had been connected to a central Federal database in order to track over-prescriptions, doctor shopping, and the disparity of regulation between states, some of which were paying almost no attention at all to the massive increases in the quantity of opioid prescriptions.

There's been a steep decline in the first use of opioids by teenagers. But we still have a huge population of addicts with long-term habits. We need to shift their demand off of the streets and into medical settings where their condition can be stabilized. The simple fact of an opioid addiction is the least of the problems for people forced by legal prohibition and criminalization to feed their habit from a street supply. Addicts probably account for 80% of quantity demand for the illicit opioid market. Just as 20% of alcohol users buy 80% of the alcohol, as it happens.

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What did you add Mascot with your reply? Read my comment

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I'm just offering suggestions for how Congress might most effectively "do its job" in responding to the current opioid crisis. Your own post was vague about offering specific recommendations in that regard.

Passing a law to ban Tik-Tok or revoke its license may or may not actually work effectively to get rid of Tik-Tok, I don't know. Will it become a Customs issue, for travellers entering the country with the app on their phones? That should give you some idea of my level of ignorance on the whole Tik-Tok controversy.

For that matter, I have no idea of what it is that's so extra special about Tik-Tok that can't be done just as effectively by transmitting and receiving the same material via, say, Youtube. Just like I can't figure out what it is that makes Facebook such a massively hip advance over Friendster or MySpace.

As for Twitter, that's never looked like anything but a giant step backwards, as a news source or forum for political discussion. I can see its worth in some respects, but not that one. The amount of value that so many people seem to be attaching to politics-related content on Twitter baffles me.

However, while I'm confident of my utter absence of interest in Twitter as a source of either news information or political discussion, I freely admit that I don't know Tik-Tok from Youtube or Instagram. Maybe someone out there can bring me up to speed on that. Just a brief outline of the crucial differences that make Tik-Tok unique, I can take it from there.

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Preconceptions? Fool? That's a cute reply. But those publications are not even close to being credible. There are so many other sources that continually refute their leftist point of view. No point in having a discussion with you. Move along.

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If The New Yorker as "not credible" to the point where everything it says should be taken for granted as worthless, then how do you account for this story? https://www.newyorker.com/news/a-reporter-at-large/china-xinjiang-prison-state-uighur-detention-camps-prisoner-testimony

I just added that link to my previous comment downthread prior to your post, which is apparently intended as a reply to it (and which is showing up on my page at the top of New Comments, for some reason.)

I challenge you to find me another news account that offers a more comprehensive account of the totalitarian controls imposed in Xinjiang by the CCP. (Or maybe you'd prefer to link to a story "continually refuting" it, lol...there's no telling what your real game is, eh? You might be a bot or a shill, tasked to warn people off of The New Yorker because they run stories like that one.)

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Why don't Americans simply spend more time informing their opinions by reading serious nonfiction books and other long-form print sources? As a personal decision, I mean.

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Ok - sold: I just deleted TikTok from my cell phone.

It felt like crushing a snake.

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You're right ... it's much better to let American companies hoover all this information about everyone in the world without any accountability ... and often with Chinese financing.

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I know that what you say is true. Their models are also based on elaborate amenities for students, another cause of rising college costs. My point is that the colleges are selling out to a sworn enemy.

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My daughter told me the other day the she cannot believe how social media has shortened her attention span. She has since deleted all her social media apps, and picked up reading again. I couldn't be happier.

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TikTok is a national security threat...Oops! Too late now.

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The author misses the point. It's not about politicians using or being ON TikTok themselves. Instead the power of TikTok comes from the immense indoctrinating power of repetitive, vapid, corrosive and subversive ideas (that's what kids like) being funneled into impressionable and sheep-like minds 24/7.

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Disturbing.. Not surprising.

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