The VA gov stumped on 15 weeks for this midterm and got nowhere. The official Democrat Party platform is abortion with no restrictions. Hard to call that anything but baby killing.
The VA gov stumped on 15 weeks for this midterm and got nowhere. The official Democrat Party platform is abortion with no restrictions. Hard to call that anything but baby killing.
It's because people don't trust the GOP with the issue at all. Look at what happened in Florida with DeSantis, he signed a 15 week limit with exceptions, and then immediately after his re-election, quietly signed the 6 week limit with much narrower exceptions. Sorry, but Republicans have very little trust and credibility on this issue, particularly when the majority in the Party leadership as well as its base are still talking about outright bans as the goal, and perhaps it's clarifying to read a lot of the comments on this board where people feel pretty comfortable about letting loose on their "opinions" about "loose women" and the obligations some feel they have to the "state" to produce babies in order to keep things clarified about the goals and intent behind these bans.
Consider this to be like the gun control issue on the Right: gun owners and the Right don't trust Democrats with the issue, that targeted bans won't lead to outright bans and attempted repeals at the 2A. And since many Democrats and liberals are pretty open to 2A repeal and/or severe narrow interpretations that would forbid most non-hunting rifle ownership in the nation, it's not without basis. And yet, when polled, many support the ostensibly reasonable regulations that have been proposed, but not when they are championed by only Democrats. Similarly, the "15 week limit and then escalating restrictions for medical necessities" has majority polling support as well, but not when it's proposed by Republicans, and particularly not when it's proposed by Republicans who are on record as desiring of more totalizing bans (as Youngkin has been previously - and stated he would eagerly sign if he had a Republican majority in VA to pass them).
For either issue to get credibility with either base of supporters, it can't be driven solely by partisan interests, and the maximalizing rhetoric that everyone can still hear in the background of the "reasoned solutions" discredits the "reasonable solutions" as just being the slippery slope to the maximalist goal. Really - for any sort of sliding scale of restrictions to pass, they will likely have to be championed by Democrats to pass the smell test for most of the people voting against Republican attempts to limit/restrict and authored in a way that removes, as much as possible, any controlling agency from political authorities or the state and placed as much as possible within the medical practicing community to "self police" the practice - which, as you might know, was the state of things under Roe : /
The VA gov stumped on 15 weeks for this midterm and got nowhere. The official Democrat Party platform is abortion with no restrictions. Hard to call that anything but baby killing.
It's because people don't trust the GOP with the issue at all. Look at what happened in Florida with DeSantis, he signed a 15 week limit with exceptions, and then immediately after his re-election, quietly signed the 6 week limit with much narrower exceptions. Sorry, but Republicans have very little trust and credibility on this issue, particularly when the majority in the Party leadership as well as its base are still talking about outright bans as the goal, and perhaps it's clarifying to read a lot of the comments on this board where people feel pretty comfortable about letting loose on their "opinions" about "loose women" and the obligations some feel they have to the "state" to produce babies in order to keep things clarified about the goals and intent behind these bans.
Consider this to be like the gun control issue on the Right: gun owners and the Right don't trust Democrats with the issue, that targeted bans won't lead to outright bans and attempted repeals at the 2A. And since many Democrats and liberals are pretty open to 2A repeal and/or severe narrow interpretations that would forbid most non-hunting rifle ownership in the nation, it's not without basis. And yet, when polled, many support the ostensibly reasonable regulations that have been proposed, but not when they are championed by only Democrats. Similarly, the "15 week limit and then escalating restrictions for medical necessities" has majority polling support as well, but not when it's proposed by Republicans, and particularly not when it's proposed by Republicans who are on record as desiring of more totalizing bans (as Youngkin has been previously - and stated he would eagerly sign if he had a Republican majority in VA to pass them).
For either issue to get credibility with either base of supporters, it can't be driven solely by partisan interests, and the maximalizing rhetoric that everyone can still hear in the background of the "reasoned solutions" discredits the "reasonable solutions" as just being the slippery slope to the maximalist goal. Really - for any sort of sliding scale of restrictions to pass, they will likely have to be championed by Democrats to pass the smell test for most of the people voting against Republican attempts to limit/restrict and authored in a way that removes, as much as possible, any controlling agency from political authorities or the state and placed as much as possible within the medical practicing community to "self police" the practice - which, as you might know, was the state of things under Roe : /