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Brilliantly Oblivious's avatar

If only the poor people of Gaza yearned for peace with Israel. They do not. They yearn for dead Jews.

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Ray Andrews's avatar

So say the Jews who are bombing them. But if you ask an actual Gazan, even now, most of them wish for an end to living in the world's biggest open air prison. They just want to be normal people living in a normal country. Most people are like that, you know -- most people just want to be normal people, they have to be *driven* mad. And yes, they have been driven mad and yes they yearn for dead Jews -- but it doesn't have to be that way. I'd probably be a mad dog if I had lived my whole life under occupation too and I'd probably want to kill every last member of the people occupying me.

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hv's avatar

Also this is a crazy comment from beginning to end. It is like you just heard of these places yesterday and you just stopped by to let us know how little you understand. Please stop.

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Ray Andrews's avatar

Nope, I won't. The reason all this interests me is, firstly I'm half Jewish and secondly because my dad was there at the time of the formation of Israel -- he saw first hand what went down, and that formed my view of the thing.

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hv's avatar

You wonтАЩt stop letting us know how shallow your views are? Shocker. The reason this interests you is because you are half Jewish? ItтАЩs even more embarrassing you know so little about your own cultural heritage. But because you think you can relate this latest pogrom to yourself, however tenuously, now youтАЩre going to read a few articles, just enough to engage in some of the moral relativism the author laments? Great.

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Casey Jones's avatar

How is one half Jewish? Isn't that kinda like half pregnant?

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Ray Andrews's avatar

Is it? My dad is Jewish, my mom is gentile.

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Casey Jones's avatar

What I suspected. Not of great importance to the immediate discussion, however, the question, "What is a Jew?" will engender lively discussion even amongst some -- if not many -- Jews. But it's rather large in the ongoing unpleasantness.

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Ray Andrews's avatar

There are not a few Jews who believe as I do that Holy Land cannot be stolen and that Jews, of all people, should know that treating another people as lesser is wrong. That one is Jewish is no more a guarantee that one is a Zionist that being German in 1940 is a guarantee that one is a Nazi. But the irony is that I AM a Zionist, but I think that it should be done legally, not by theft. I honestly believe it would be cheaper in the long run.

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Ray Andrews's avatar

Think about it: can anyone begin to guess how much money -- nevermind lives -- has been spent on the wars? Suppose we could rewind history and come up with enough money that the Arab lands we wanted were legally purchased? Someone should do the math, I'd bet it would be less than 10% of the money since spent on wars. The thing of it is I *still* believe that, even now, legal purchase would be cheaper than the horrors to come -- cuz the wars are going to go on and on and on as every new generation of dispossessed Palestinians take up the cause. Right?

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