When we planned the conversation you’re going to hear today—a live conversation with Douglas Murray—we thought it would be a searching conversation that we’d release on the anniversary of October 7th, looking back at a year of war from a slightly quieter moment.
There are arguments that aren’t had here, including the things that Israel should be criticised for, but the central point that we (the civilised world) are at war with barbarian thugs is the most important.
Spoilt westerners playing radical dress up games have to be among the most loathsome individuals with the exception of the genocidal regimes they support.
That’s where Murray is at his best, pointing these things out.
@bari Remember, those same people posting black squares are the same people that hate Israel because they hate the West in general. Those are also the same people that gave me CVS with everything locked behind plastic, Home Depot’s with armed guards and attack dogs to manage the illegal immigrants in the parking lot, and the fentanyl abuse and death all over America. It doesn’t help that we see the EU as an enemy to the US.
I very much appreciate these conversations which I have been watching on YouTube, and I am wondering whether people may attend one of them and, if so, how to purchase a ticket? I only see a way to purchase tickets to the debates. I would love to see the FP studio and be present during such a conversation.
I loved the “I’m an ultra orthodox non-jew” joke. It made me realize for some reason I know a lot more about orthodox jews then reformist ones. In my mind Reformists are the Jews that just don’t follow all the rules lol Probably a very inaccurate view.
“Yasser Arafat is the SECOND greatest threat to the Jewish people today…. The first is Henry Kissinger.” - my rabbi in the aftermath of the 1973 Yom Kippur war.
Such a brilliant, important message to Liberals and people on the Left who believe they love peace: escalation of hostilities is not the opposite of peace, it is the road to peace. Ceasefires are the road to ongoing hostilities. When people don the mantle of oppressed victimhood to carry out barbaric acts, the correct response is to call out their barbarity and fight against it, and not to excuse it as either the acceptable actions of victims or, worse yet, the heroic actions of freedom fighters taking part in justifiable resistance.
Douglas has been an unquestionable ally of Israel and, as a fellow gentile, I absolute appreciate his clear-eyed coverage of the conflict since October 7th. If we in the west can’t stand with the people who share our values, what good are these values to begin with?
I went to hear Mr. Murray speak at The Beacon Theater in NYC last week. Besides the fact that he is a brilliant orator, he has a clarity of vision about Israel, the US, Iran and the Middle East that is too often misunderstood.
His point is that Israel is simply the front lines of the war Iran and its proxies war are fighting to eliminate all we hold dear— democracy, freedom of speech, freedom to live as one pleases, freedom of religion and freedom to protest. The burka is one very clear example of the way Iran wants the world to live. If you are a female, would you like to be covered head to toe with just a small slit to see from? If you want to, then please do. But if you don’t want to and live in Iran (or many other extreme Islamic regimes) and Iran wins this war, you will be forced to cover yourself. Or if you are gay or any other lifestyle outside the man/woman lifestyle, you will be killed.
Murray says that the US and other western nations should be selling Israel all the arms it needs to win this war. Because if G-d forbid they lose it, Iran and its proxies will be expanding to Europe and the US and we will be in a hot war with Iran.
There are significant portions of many European cities that have already been turned into Muslim enclaves where the police hardly dare to enter. This has been accomplished without firing a shot.
There are arguments that aren’t had here, including the things that Israel should be criticised for, but the central point that we (the civilised world) are at war with barbarian thugs is the most important.
Spoilt westerners playing radical dress up games have to be among the most loathsome individuals with the exception of the genocidal regimes they support.
That’s where Murray is at his best, pointing these things out.
@bari Remember, those same people posting black squares are the same people that hate Israel because they hate the West in general. Those are also the same people that gave me CVS with everything locked behind plastic, Home Depot’s with armed guards and attack dogs to manage the illegal immigrants in the parking lot, and the fentanyl abuse and death all over America. It doesn’t help that we see the EU as an enemy to the US.
If Bari wants to understand the anti-Uniparty position on Ukraine she should host Jeffrey Sachs in a future episode of Honestly.
I very much appreciate these conversations which I have been watching on YouTube, and I am wondering whether people may attend one of them and, if so, how to purchase a ticket? I only see a way to purchase tickets to the debates. I would love to see the FP studio and be present during such a conversation.
I loved the “I’m an ultra orthodox non-jew” joke. It made me realize for some reason I know a lot more about orthodox jews then reformist ones. In my mind Reformists are the Jews that just don’t follow all the rules lol Probably a very inaccurate view.
Hard to take issue with anything Douglas said.
Excellent, thank you!
“Yasser Arafat is the SECOND greatest threat to the Jewish people today…. The first is Henry Kissinger.” - my rabbi in the aftermath of the 1973 Yom Kippur war.
Israel is never allowed to win a war.
So beautiful. To end on such a message of hope, the triumph of young Israelis. It brought a tear to my eye.
What an absolutely clear and well articulated perspective.
Great interview. I think the insertion of Trump/Vance and Ukraine diminished it slightly.
Simply put: This is the clearly best journalistic piece that I have ever experienced.
Such a brilliant, important message to Liberals and people on the Left who believe they love peace: escalation of hostilities is not the opposite of peace, it is the road to peace. Ceasefires are the road to ongoing hostilities. When people don the mantle of oppressed victimhood to carry out barbaric acts, the correct response is to call out their barbarity and fight against it, and not to excuse it as either the acceptable actions of victims or, worse yet, the heroic actions of freedom fighters taking part in justifiable resistance.
Fantastic discussion as always. Mr. Murray brought tears to my eyes I'm sending this to. everyone I know.
Douglas has been an unquestionable ally of Israel and, as a fellow gentile, I absolute appreciate his clear-eyed coverage of the conflict since October 7th. If we in the west can’t stand with the people who share our values, what good are these values to begin with?
I went to hear Mr. Murray speak at The Beacon Theater in NYC last week. Besides the fact that he is a brilliant orator, he has a clarity of vision about Israel, the US, Iran and the Middle East that is too often misunderstood.
His point is that Israel is simply the front lines of the war Iran and its proxies war are fighting to eliminate all we hold dear— democracy, freedom of speech, freedom to live as one pleases, freedom of religion and freedom to protest. The burka is one very clear example of the way Iran wants the world to live. If you are a female, would you like to be covered head to toe with just a small slit to see from? If you want to, then please do. But if you don’t want to and live in Iran (or many other extreme Islamic regimes) and Iran wins this war, you will be forced to cover yourself. Or if you are gay or any other lifestyle outside the man/woman lifestyle, you will be killed.
Murray says that the US and other western nations should be selling Israel all the arms it needs to win this war. Because if G-d forbid they lose it, Iran and its proxies will be expanding to Europe and the US and we will be in a hot war with Iran.
...you fear that Iran is going to conquer Europe?
I think i missed something
Look at what’s going on in nearly every European country, from Sweden to France, Belgium, and Germany. That should wake you up!
There are significant portions of many European cities that have already been turned into Muslim enclaves where the police hardly dare to enter. This has been accomplished without firing a shot.