The problem with these lawsuits is that the UNIVERSITIES pay, not the Administrators who perpetuate the Jew-hatred. For many elite universities, this can be easily paid out from endowments or from state funding.
You have to hit the Administrators in their personal pockets.
In this astonishing and very disturbing report the part that totally "freaks me out" is that the MIT administrator claims that the accusation of the IDF harvesting organs is "an old and decontextualized but confirmed report," Confirmed? Confirmed?! This is supposedly an administrator in a top tier university? This administrator is supposed to objectively and fairly adjudicate claims of harassment and discrimination? This is far beyond Orwellian, it now in the realm of Kafka.
These colleges owe these kids a complete refund and financial compensation, on the order of several million, to compensate for the lost years and the cost of having to switch schools.
If they don't want Jewish students, fine. Make that clear on their application and stop taking public money and return all the money they took since October 7th. Then make the existing Jewish students whole by paying them.
It doesn't help that the NYT article about Kenneth Marcus listed only examples of campus antisemitism that were marginally or arguably not antisemitic such as complaints about roommates saying that Palestinians have rights. None of the strongly antisemitic events dilineated by Marcus in the above article were mentioned. This gave the false appearance that a cabal of wealthy Jewish alumni are pulling the strings. But I guess that was the whole point of the NYT article.
The NY Times is expert at phrasing its reportage in such a way that the reader is led to side with whatever side the NY Times supports. One of the most frequent tactics it uses is the cherry picking of facts. I beg your indulgence for a pointed joke.
A child falls into the lion enclosure at the Central Park Zoo. Just as a lion is about to attack and devour the child an Israeli tourist jumps over the fence, punches the lion in the snout and jumps back to safety with the child. The next day the Times headline reads, "Israeli attacks African immigrant and steals his lunch".
I want to be more supportive of this. But to me, this is similar to BLM where they are advocating only for their group, instead of demanding the same rights for everyone. While I realize they feel singles out, there are undoubtedly other groups of people also not fairly treated that may not have an Ethnic law group to advocate on their behalf.
TLDR; maybe we should just always push to treat everyone the same
I see it as an attempt to push to treat everyone the same. Currently, universities protect people who conform with the Progressive narrative and punish people who do not.
The current burst of antisemitism is a rare conjunction of people being attacked simultaneously on the basis of Progressive ideology (an attack Leftists support) AND for their race (which has been drummed into Americans as inherently wrong since the Civil Rights era).
Part of what puts Progressive antisemites in a bad position right now is that they have chosen to declare that Jews are "white." If universities are successfully financially punished for promoting and upholding antisemitic students and professors, precedent is going to make it easier for white students to sue universities for the anti-white rhetoric that is now the bread and butter of higher ed.
I understand their circumstances...trust me, you can't read FTP and not. I am just tired of narrowing things down to sub groups. The real issue is universities not treating ALL students equally. For various reasons. I don't want to work on one of those reasons. I want to go to the source and fix it for everyone. But, when you advocate for a specific group, you teach the admins that they only have to worry about people who have a big enough voice.
It just feels like a way to continue to keep us separate. For people to keep self identifying as a narrow group that doesn't necessarily even represent the person they are. To create advocacy groups focused on narrow victories for smaller groups of people, when their goal could easily simply encompass everyone.
I get where you're coming from, and I wish it could work that way. But with the Left so utterly obsessed with group identity at the moment, I'm not sure that such an approach would be at all effective.
I'm not sure how this approach is better. The left already don't see value in Jews. They are only backing off out of fear, not fairness or enlightenment. And because it is such a small group, they don't really have to change much at all anyway. They can still discriminate all they want, just not to that tiny subset of people. And even then, they will still try it when that think the lawyers can't get them.
You have to make them fear any and all discrimination, so they get out of that game entirely. This just plays into their hands. It may be a small number, but there will undoubted be students on these campuses who now feel like the Jewish students get preferred treatment because they have access to lawyers.
Hit these universities in the pocket book. And in their brand status. The Gen Z students may be fine going to one of these schools, but their parents may be less fine paying for it…when “this” is what they might get for their $.
Harvard and Penn have already shown that $ talks. Let’s keep it going. Good on these lawyers working on this.
DEI cannot be reformed. That it only hiding the threat and allowing it to grow and evolve. DEI is religious totalitarianism and it must be banished and ended completely for the sake of civil democratic society.
Interesting article but in the long run these lawsuits will do very little to ameliorate the situation as it refers to the 'Judenfrage'. Jew hatred has been with us for thousands of years, hard wired into the psyches of weak and envious people who see the achievements of others as an insult to their fragile self esteem.
It's hard to cure people of Jew hatred, but universities openly supporting Jew hatred is a dangerous trend. These lawsuits may make it expensive for them to do so. Hopefully, prohibitively expensive.
To ask if suing university who fail to do their basic duty and protect Jewish students to the same standards as others is like will actually change things is like asking if actually enforcing the law on shoplifters will change something.
Yes, DEI was a hypothesis that was forced everywhere while free speech was squelched. The DI movement from the late 90s was hijacked and an E was added and then the definition was reintroduced as equal outcome instead of equal opportunity. We have lived the consequences. It is nice to see that people are working and sacrificing their efforts to confront these destructive practices. May the progress continue.
It should read European looking Cubans and Lebanese and Syrians and some Iraqis and Kurds too.....Argentines? Are they also now poc. It's insane. this hate isn't new...it was stirring when I was a kid at unveristy....so now it explode out of the undercurrent of student life and is making life at university for any free thinking kid a trial and a challenge.
Jewish Chronicle has an article on shouting obscenties at Holocaust survivors at Berkely...so the rot is very deep and the university administrators are craven and cowardly and deeply in fear of student groups which are hate groups and racial supremecists.....under the cover of being anti racists.... so with intersectionality, the black student union, the Latino et al are all now united in "solidarity with "Palestine" and yes the Jews are privileged and oppressors and worse of all in the "white" category which immediately condemns....all the fair skin European Cubans Lebanese Syrian for example are all now POC and the "Ashkenazi Jews" are all white Europeans and the Jews from the so called "Arab world" a 20th century construct have all had Arabness retroactively assigned to them so of course they need no racist Jewish student but must unite with their fellow Arabs of dark skin no matter how white....to fight European colonial settlerism Zionism. and so on.
This is an excellent start, especially with Marcus’s long-term goal of eliminating DEI departments that focus on splitting groups into oppressors and the oppressed. But the fact is, this privately-formed organization is doing the work that our Department of Justice should be handling. Instead, our DOJ is too busy harassing parents at school board meetings and pro-life protesters in their homes.
I'm for free speech but colleges that don't allow racial slurs against other groups shouldn't allow them against Jews. If a college wouldn't permit students to carry signs or chant "Kill all the blacks," they shouldn't allow protesters to proclaim "Kill all the Jews." This doesn't mean shutting down debate about the war in Gaza, but plainly antisemetic messages aren't debate.
If a college would expel any student for a racist comment (no matter how far back in the student's past--which is something that has actually happened), they need to expel any student who makes an antisemitic comment. If a college would fire a professor for merely saying the "wrong thing" about the preparation of black students for college, they need to fire professors who promote antisemitic propaganda.
It is not a question of free speech. It is a question of blatant university biases and the actions that those universities take as a result. A student who thinks Israel is a genocidal, colonial, illegitimate state is literally safer on most college campuses than a student who thinks our southern border should not be open.
The problem with these lawsuits is that the UNIVERSITIES pay, not the Administrators who perpetuate the Jew-hatred. For many elite universities, this can be easily paid out from endowments or from state funding.
You have to hit the Administrators in their personal pockets.
In this astonishing and very disturbing report the part that totally "freaks me out" is that the MIT administrator claims that the accusation of the IDF harvesting organs is "an old and decontextualized but confirmed report," Confirmed? Confirmed?! This is supposedly an administrator in a top tier university? This administrator is supposed to objectively and fairly adjudicate claims of harassment and discrimination? This is far beyond Orwellian, it now in the realm of Kafka.
If this doesn't get any traction under Title VI, the fix is in.
These colleges owe these kids a complete refund and financial compensation, on the order of several million, to compensate for the lost years and the cost of having to switch schools.
If they don't want Jewish students, fine. Make that clear on their application and stop taking public money and return all the money they took since October 7th. Then make the existing Jewish students whole by paying them.
It doesn't help that the NYT article about Kenneth Marcus listed only examples of campus antisemitism that were marginally or arguably not antisemitic such as complaints about roommates saying that Palestinians have rights. None of the strongly antisemitic events dilineated by Marcus in the above article were mentioned. This gave the false appearance that a cabal of wealthy Jewish alumni are pulling the strings. But I guess that was the whole point of the NYT article.
The NY Times is expert at phrasing its reportage in such a way that the reader is led to side with whatever side the NY Times supports. One of the most frequent tactics it uses is the cherry picking of facts. I beg your indulgence for a pointed joke.
A child falls into the lion enclosure at the Central Park Zoo. Just as a lion is about to attack and devour the child an Israeli tourist jumps over the fence, punches the lion in the snout and jumps back to safety with the child. The next day the Times headline reads, "Israeli attacks African immigrant and steals his lunch".
So true!
I want to be more supportive of this. But to me, this is similar to BLM where they are advocating only for their group, instead of demanding the same rights for everyone. While I realize they feel singles out, there are undoubtedly other groups of people also not fairly treated that may not have an Ethnic law group to advocate on their behalf.
TLDR; maybe we should just always push to treat everyone the same
I see it as an attempt to push to treat everyone the same. Currently, universities protect people who conform with the Progressive narrative and punish people who do not.
The current burst of antisemitism is a rare conjunction of people being attacked simultaneously on the basis of Progressive ideology (an attack Leftists support) AND for their race (which has been drummed into Americans as inherently wrong since the Civil Rights era).
Part of what puts Progressive antisemites in a bad position right now is that they have chosen to declare that Jews are "white." If universities are successfully financially punished for promoting and upholding antisemitic students and professors, precedent is going to make it easier for white students to sue universities for the anti-white rhetoric that is now the bread and butter of higher ed.
I understand their circumstances...trust me, you can't read FTP and not. I am just tired of narrowing things down to sub groups. The real issue is universities not treating ALL students equally. For various reasons. I don't want to work on one of those reasons. I want to go to the source and fix it for everyone. But, when you advocate for a specific group, you teach the admins that they only have to worry about people who have a big enough voice.
It just feels like a way to continue to keep us separate. For people to keep self identifying as a narrow group that doesn't necessarily even represent the person they are. To create advocacy groups focused on narrow victories for smaller groups of people, when their goal could easily simply encompass everyone.
I get where you're coming from, and I wish it could work that way. But with the Left so utterly obsessed with group identity at the moment, I'm not sure that such an approach would be at all effective.
I'm not sure how this approach is better. The left already don't see value in Jews. They are only backing off out of fear, not fairness or enlightenment. And because it is such a small group, they don't really have to change much at all anyway. They can still discriminate all they want, just not to that tiny subset of people. And even then, they will still try it when that think the lawyers can't get them.
You have to make them fear any and all discrimination, so they get out of that game entirely. This just plays into their hands. It may be a small number, but there will undoubted be students on these campuses who now feel like the Jewish students get preferred treatment because they have access to lawyers.
Hit these universities in the pocket book. And in their brand status. The Gen Z students may be fine going to one of these schools, but their parents may be less fine paying for it…when “this” is what they might get for their $.
Harvard and Penn have already shown that $ talks. Let’s keep it going. Good on these lawyers working on this.
Hit the ADMINISTRATORS in the pocketbook. Make them feel the pain. Either they pain fines or lose their jobs.
If a university is violating Title VI, can its federal funding be threatened? That would be the strongest way to deal with the problem.
DEI cannot be reformed. That it only hiding the threat and allowing it to grow and evolve. DEI is religious totalitarianism and it must be banished and ended completely for the sake of civil democratic society.
Interesting article but in the long run these lawsuits will do very little to ameliorate the situation as it refers to the 'Judenfrage'. Jew hatred has been with us for thousands of years, hard wired into the psyches of weak and envious people who see the achievements of others as an insult to their fragile self esteem.
It's hard to cure people of Jew hatred, but universities openly supporting Jew hatred is a dangerous trend. These lawsuits may make it expensive for them to do so. Hopefully, prohibitively expensive.
To ask if suing university who fail to do their basic duty and protect Jewish students to the same standards as others is like will actually change things is like asking if actually enforcing the law on shoplifters will change something.
Yes, DEI was a hypothesis that was forced everywhere while free speech was squelched. The DI movement from the late 90s was hijacked and an E was added and then the definition was reintroduced as equal outcome instead of equal opportunity. We have lived the consequences. It is nice to see that people are working and sacrificing their efforts to confront these destructive practices. May the progress continue.
It should read European looking Cubans and Lebanese and Syrians and some Iraqis and Kurds too.....Argentines? Are they also now poc. It's insane. this hate isn't new...it was stirring when I was a kid at unveristy....so now it explode out of the undercurrent of student life and is making life at university for any free thinking kid a trial and a challenge.
Jewish Chronicle has an article on shouting obscenties at Holocaust survivors at Berkely...so the rot is very deep and the university administrators are craven and cowardly and deeply in fear of student groups which are hate groups and racial supremecists.....under the cover of being anti racists.... so with intersectionality, the black student union, the Latino et al are all now united in "solidarity with "Palestine" and yes the Jews are privileged and oppressors and worse of all in the "white" category which immediately condemns....all the fair skin European Cubans Lebanese Syrian for example are all now POC and the "Ashkenazi Jews" are all white Europeans and the Jews from the so called "Arab world" a 20th century construct have all had Arabness retroactively assigned to them so of course they need no racist Jewish student but must unite with their fellow Arabs of dark skin no matter how white....to fight European colonial settlerism Zionism. and so on.
This is an excellent start, especially with Marcus’s long-term goal of eliminating DEI departments that focus on splitting groups into oppressors and the oppressed. But the fact is, this privately-formed organization is doing the work that our Department of Justice should be handling. Instead, our DOJ is too busy harassing parents at school board meetings and pro-life protesters in their homes.
I'm for free speech but colleges that don't allow racial slurs against other groups shouldn't allow them against Jews. If a college wouldn't permit students to carry signs or chant "Kill all the blacks," they shouldn't allow protesters to proclaim "Kill all the Jews." This doesn't mean shutting down debate about the war in Gaza, but plainly antisemetic messages aren't debate.
If a college would expel any student for a racist comment (no matter how far back in the student's past--which is something that has actually happened), they need to expel any student who makes an antisemitic comment. If a college would fire a professor for merely saying the "wrong thing" about the preparation of black students for college, they need to fire professors who promote antisemitic propaganda.
It is not a question of free speech. It is a question of blatant university biases and the actions that those universities take as a result. A student who thinks Israel is a genocidal, colonial, illegitimate state is literally safer on most college campuses than a student who thinks our southern border should not be open.