I have no sympathy for BC's policies (and to be utterly honest, little for addiction as a disease: there seems to be no fruitful treatment through regarding addiction that way, and more from regarding it as a moral failing to be resisted) and read this news with horror. Then I briefly considered which would be better: my minor children r…
I have no sympathy for BC's policies (and to be utterly honest, little for addiction as a disease: there seems to be no fruitful treatment through regarding addiction that way, and more from regarding it as a moral failing to be resisted) and read this news with horror. Then I briefly considered which would be better: my minor children receiving safer supply drugs or dying? Likely the former, but only if it was followed up with my preference for treating addiction as a moral choice, as otherwise one keeps on giving 'safe' drugs until they die.
I spent forty years as a practicing physician, and I never saw any benefit from treating addiction as a disease. Not once, not at all. It isn't a disease; it is a choice, and a poor one. AA gets this right, however you might criticise them. And I'm grateful I have no child who has felt the need to dull their sensibility through drugs.
Curious what your medical specialty is/was and whether you’ve read much about the benefits of burprenorphone (Subutex, Suboxone, Sublocade) for treatment of OUD. Well I supposed you don’t consider OUD legit so....
Tasha has responded more eloquently to your comment that addiction is a moral failing than I have any desire to. All I can say is, to anyone who has had family or loved ones suffering from addiction, the overwhelming ignorance of your statement is immediately apparent. It's an ignorance you should be grateful for, something you'll never be grateful enough for, because if you had a true sense of the suffering not just the addict goes through but also their entire family, you wouldn't be talking like this. I never knew the meaning of "wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy" until my family member suffered for years from a drug addiction.
I'm also glad your children didn't ever feel the need to dull their existence with drug abuse - truly, its a wonderful thing you should always be grateful for - and I will forever envy people like you who can view this issue so glibly.
Yes, it's much more than just a physical addiction. Those suffering almost invariably had difficult childhoods or deep-seated mental health issues. It doesn't mean the addiction isn't their responsibility, but it does mean it's something to be treated, broadly speaking, like you would any other ailment.
Or you could just dismiss all addicts as morally inferior. Asshole.
Way to go on the attack, Tasha & Pemulis. Our good doctor said he had no sympathy for BC policies. But you totally and completely ignored that, and went after his co-position on drug use in general. Why is that you were triggered to do that, but not share your thoughts on the article itself, which Mr. Moss is talking about (BC physicians having ability to prescribe fentanyl to minors without informing parents).
Glad you were never my doctor. I have seen people get sober through AA which does not treat addiction as a moral failing but a disease - albeit a strange one that only spiritual fulfillment rather than medicine can allay. Yes, there are bad people addicted to drugs and using just loosens the few bonds left on their behavior. And part of the reason they exhibit the poor judgement that results in trying drugs is that they did not have great moral fiber to begin with. Many others are just people. People who addiction creeps up on. They start with drinking in high school or drugs in college or a prescription after surgery. Or after a painful loss in life such as divorce, death, unemployment. Or they use to numb terrible traumas from their past such as being molested or growing up with violence. (no I don’t subscribe to the current craze that everyone is is walking around riddled with deep seated trauma). And modern life with its lack of connection or purpose or even physical vigor is creating ripe conditions for people to try to fill the void. They are not bad. They are sick and nowadays in a society that is often sick as well. People can get sober.
I have no sympathy for BC's policies (and to be utterly honest, little for addiction as a disease: there seems to be no fruitful treatment through regarding addiction that way, and more from regarding it as a moral failing to be resisted) and read this news with horror. Then I briefly considered which would be better: my minor children receiving safer supply drugs or dying? Likely the former, but only if it was followed up with my preference for treating addiction as a moral choice, as otherwise one keeps on giving 'safe' drugs until they die.
I spent forty years as a practicing physician, and I never saw any benefit from treating addiction as a disease. Not once, not at all. It isn't a disease; it is a choice, and a poor one. AA gets this right, however you might criticise them. And I'm grateful I have no child who has felt the need to dull their sensibility through drugs.
Curious what your medical specialty is/was and whether you’ve read much about the benefits of burprenorphone (Subutex, Suboxone, Sublocade) for treatment of OUD. Well I supposed you don’t consider OUD legit so....
Tasha has responded more eloquently to your comment that addiction is a moral failing than I have any desire to. All I can say is, to anyone who has had family or loved ones suffering from addiction, the overwhelming ignorance of your statement is immediately apparent. It's an ignorance you should be grateful for, something you'll never be grateful enough for, because if you had a true sense of the suffering not just the addict goes through but also their entire family, you wouldn't be talking like this. I never knew the meaning of "wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy" until my family member suffered for years from a drug addiction.
I'm also glad your children didn't ever feel the need to dull their existence with drug abuse - truly, its a wonderful thing you should always be grateful for - and I will forever envy people like you who can view this issue so glibly.
Yes, it's much more than just a physical addiction. Those suffering almost invariably had difficult childhoods or deep-seated mental health issues. It doesn't mean the addiction isn't their responsibility, but it does mean it's something to be treated, broadly speaking, like you would any other ailment.
Or you could just dismiss all addicts as morally inferior. Asshole.
Way to go on the attack, Tasha & Pemulis. Our good doctor said he had no sympathy for BC policies. But you totally and completely ignored that, and went after his co-position on drug use in general. Why is that you were triggered to do that, but not share your thoughts on the article itself, which Mr. Moss is talking about (BC physicians having ability to prescribe fentanyl to minors without informing parents).
I doubt you even read the article.
Glad you were never my doctor. I have seen people get sober through AA which does not treat addiction as a moral failing but a disease - albeit a strange one that only spiritual fulfillment rather than medicine can allay. Yes, there are bad people addicted to drugs and using just loosens the few bonds left on their behavior. And part of the reason they exhibit the poor judgement that results in trying drugs is that they did not have great moral fiber to begin with. Many others are just people. People who addiction creeps up on. They start with drinking in high school or drugs in college or a prescription after surgery. Or after a painful loss in life such as divorce, death, unemployment. Or they use to numb terrible traumas from their past such as being molested or growing up with violence. (no I don’t subscribe to the current craze that everyone is is walking around riddled with deep seated trauma). And modern life with its lack of connection or purpose or even physical vigor is creating ripe conditions for people to try to fill the void. They are not bad. They are sick and nowadays in a society that is often sick as well. People can get sober.