Rights are a fact of nature for homo sapiens. They do not come from God or other men (or women). Rights do not come from government. Human nature is the basis of rights. The fact that we survive by means of our mind, our rational faculty, is the basis of rights. There is no other basis of rights: not God, country, king or society.
Rights are a fact of nature for homo sapiens. They do not come from God or other men (or women). Rights do not come from government. Human nature is the basis of rights. The fact that we survive by means of our mind, our rational faculty, is the basis of rights. There is no other basis of rights: not God, country, king or society.
Individualization, that is, becoming an individual entity, is the start of rights for homo sapiens. Modern technology enables humans to incubate premature babies. The baby in an incubator has rights. The fetus in the mother, feeding from the mother's bloodstream has no rights.
If anti-abortion people were smarter instead of dogmatic, they would encourage scientists to develop early incubation, so a woman with a 6-week-old fetus could give her fetus to a woman who desperately wants a child to raise. That 6-week-old fetus would have rights in the incubator and the woman (or couple), would be fully responsible. Eventually, people may want to have babies for profit, as they do in Europe (secretly) right now, transferring to a host mother's uterus.
If you can imagine that humans have rights by the nature of being human and having a mind capable of reason, that is unlike any other creature on this planet, then agreement between us is possible.
The fetus becomes an entity (a primary existent) when it is outside the woman's womb. Before that, it is a potential human. The woman is an actual human. You say you want to help both, but if the woman has a different priority, you say the woman is subordinate to the fetus, and probably to her romantic partner or husband, because the fetus is human. That's not good enough.
Pleased be aware, if you want to help any woman to carry a fetus to term, I won't stop you. I'll applaud you. You deserve applause, and sometimes, I may even help you. But if you say one word about it being my duty to stop a woman from having an abortion that she wants, that she finds a doctor who will do it, and she can pay for or find others willing to pay, I won't stop her. I may even help her, especially if I know her and her situation.
You say this is a generation gap issue. How old are you that you claim it is a generation gap? I say it is a principle of humanity for about 100,000 years.
At some time 2+ million years ago, there was a new "great ape" in the world. Instead of 24 pairs of chromosomes like gorillas and bonobos, this new creature had 23. Chromosome two and six were combined. Approximately 100,000 years ago, homo sapiens were making cultural relics (mostly funeral burial sites with tools, jewelry, etc.). No animals do that. Even Neanderthals didn't do that.
I did not miss your bunch of questions from prior posts. I thought you knew what I was talking about. Your questions are inappropriate because you keep saying you want to help both the woman and the child, but if the woman doesn't want to carry the child to term, you have your rules that put the child first. In my book, this is called a contradiction between speech and action.
There is no use addressing any of the many side issues you raise. Taking responsibility is not a guarantee of success, it's not even a guarantee that you will learn from your mistakes. However, taking someone else's responsibility away from them, is preventing them from learning and guarantees they will continue their abhorrent behavior.
You ask, "Who gets to decide who gets rights then?" Here's my answer: NOT YOU. I have my rights. The pregnant woman has her rights. You have your rights. 10 million people agreeing with you that the pregnant woman has no rights while she is pregnant, are 10 million people in the wrong.
Rights are a fact of nature for homo sapiens. They do not come from God or other men (or women). Rights do not come from government. Human nature is the basis of rights. The fact that we survive by means of our mind, our rational faculty, is the basis of rights. There is no other basis of rights: not God, country, king or society.
Individualization, that is, becoming an individual entity, is the start of rights for homo sapiens. Modern technology enables humans to incubate premature babies. The baby in an incubator has rights. The fetus in the mother, feeding from the mother's bloodstream has no rights.
If anti-abortion people were smarter instead of dogmatic, they would encourage scientists to develop early incubation, so a woman with a 6-week-old fetus could give her fetus to a woman who desperately wants a child to raise. That 6-week-old fetus would have rights in the incubator and the woman (or couple), would be fully responsible. Eventually, people may want to have babies for profit, as they do in Europe (secretly) right now, transferring to a host mother's uterus.
If you can imagine that humans have rights by the nature of being human and having a mind capable of reason, that is unlike any other creature on this planet, then agreement between us is possible.
The fetus becomes an entity (a primary existent) when it is outside the woman's womb. Before that, it is a potential human. The woman is an actual human. You say you want to help both, but if the woman has a different priority, you say the woman is subordinate to the fetus, and probably to her romantic partner or husband, because the fetus is human. That's not good enough.
Pleased be aware, if you want to help any woman to carry a fetus to term, I won't stop you. I'll applaud you. You deserve applause, and sometimes, I may even help you. But if you say one word about it being my duty to stop a woman from having an abortion that she wants, that she finds a doctor who will do it, and she can pay for or find others willing to pay, I won't stop her. I may even help her, especially if I know her and her situation.
You say this is a generation gap issue. How old are you that you claim it is a generation gap? I say it is a principle of humanity for about 100,000 years.
At some time 2+ million years ago, there was a new "great ape" in the world. Instead of 24 pairs of chromosomes like gorillas and bonobos, this new creature had 23. Chromosome two and six were combined. Approximately 100,000 years ago, homo sapiens were making cultural relics (mostly funeral burial sites with tools, jewelry, etc.). No animals do that. Even Neanderthals didn't do that.
I did not miss your bunch of questions from prior posts. I thought you knew what I was talking about. Your questions are inappropriate because you keep saying you want to help both the woman and the child, but if the woman doesn't want to carry the child to term, you have your rules that put the child first. In my book, this is called a contradiction between speech and action.
There is no use addressing any of the many side issues you raise. Taking responsibility is not a guarantee of success, it's not even a guarantee that you will learn from your mistakes. However, taking someone else's responsibility away from them, is preventing them from learning and guarantees they will continue their abhorrent behavior.
You ask, "Who gets to decide who gets rights then?" Here's my answer: NOT YOU. I have my rights. The pregnant woman has her rights. You have your rights. 10 million people agreeing with you that the pregnant woman has no rights while she is pregnant, are 10 million people in the wrong.