This was one of the more intriguing Honestly podcasts to listen to. On the one hand, Bari pushed Turchin hard to clarify his positions. On the other hand, some of those positions were a bit confusing (everyone's a revolutionary unless they are a (certain kind of) elite)!
Am I the only one that was hearing Hari Seldon in Isaac Asimov's Fou…
This was one of the more intriguing Honestly podcasts to listen to. On the one hand, Bari pushed Turchin hard to clarify his positions. On the other hand, some of those positions were a bit confusing (everyone's a revolutionary unless they are a (certain kind of) elite)!
Am I the only one that was hearing Hari Seldon in Isaac Asimov's Foundation series during this discussion? Pyschohistory essentially equals cliodynamics, at least at a surface level. As another science fiction hero might say: fascinating! :)
Whenever I see theories that are clearly backed by data, they are at least worth listening to. It feels like Turchin's Russian background is naturally driving much of his thinking - it feels like if he chose to take sides, he would be a proper socialist. So, that's sort of a problem but that doesn't invalidate the process, just the conclusions.
Anyway, if elites have all of the money and political power, one way to fix the politics is to somehow get the money out of politics. If you can't buy your president (looking at you, Zuck) or your prosecutors (Soros), then you'll have to rely on old-fashioned merit and hard work to convince people that you can lead them in a direction that is more prosperous for most if not all people.
This was one of the more intriguing Honestly podcasts to listen to. On the one hand, Bari pushed Turchin hard to clarify his positions. On the other hand, some of those positions were a bit confusing (everyone's a revolutionary unless they are a (certain kind of) elite)!
Am I the only one that was hearing Hari Seldon in Isaac Asimov's Foundation series during this discussion? Pyschohistory essentially equals cliodynamics, at least at a surface level. As another science fiction hero might say: fascinating! :)
Whenever I see theories that are clearly backed by data, they are at least worth listening to. It feels like Turchin's Russian background is naturally driving much of his thinking - it feels like if he chose to take sides, he would be a proper socialist. So, that's sort of a problem but that doesn't invalidate the process, just the conclusions.
Anyway, if elites have all of the money and political power, one way to fix the politics is to somehow get the money out of politics. If you can't buy your president (looking at you, Zuck) or your prosecutors (Soros), then you'll have to rely on old-fashioned merit and hard work to convince people that you can lead them in a direction that is more prosperous for most if not all people.