The left’s reaction to the massacre in Israel has many progressive Jews in the West rethinking their past activism, political affiliations, and friendships.
““When you look at the political right you see a group that seems very comfortable with Jews in Israel and very uncomfortable with Jews at home. And when you look at the political left, you see a group that seems very comfortable with Jews at home and very uncomfortable with Jews in Israel,” Clark said. “
The actions of professors and students on college campuses says otherwise, the mass protests in western cities says otherwise, your own eyes and ears tell you otherwise and yet you still can’t see the left for what it is.
The “Progressive Left” glorifies murderers and terrorists from the safe bubbles in which they live. I am a Cuban American whose uncle was executed by the death squads led by Che Guevara for the crime of publishing a pro democracy editorial. While growing up in the USA I felt personally insulted every time I saw clueless American young people wearing Che t-shirts. I can only imagine the pain and sorrow every Jewish person must feel to see and hear their fellow Americans cheering for Hamas and even for Nazis after the countless centuries of persecution and genocide the Jews have endured. Cristina Moore
It is a real shame these progressive Jews had to wait until the woke mob came after them - until it affected them personally - for them to recognize the insidious mind virus for what it is. Alas, one way or another, they've learned. Hopefully the lesson sticks. If not, you're all free to vote alongside the blood-thirsty, Jew-hating, LGBQT brigade (along with their fiercest ally, Hamas).
My own cousin, who until 3 weeks ago was a bleeding heart liberal, told me he know "considers himself a conservative". Hopefully progressive Jews remember the lessons of the last three weeks otherwise, for another election cycle, they will be voting against their own interests (and in this case, safety).
Sure, some old-school lefties may be "rethinking" their past activism as they realize that their "allies" are supportive of genocidal maniacs. But they'll still vote for the left-wing candidate, and thus continue to enable these horrors, because the notions of maybe voting for a Republican, or that Donald Trump is the peace candidate, are inconceivable.
People are still parroting the ADL on the "white supremacist" far-right threat when we know a bigger threat lies within the walls of colleges, specially elite ones. Young minds are being taught to hate Israel, and Jews and they will go on to their jobs in academia, government, and corporations and spew their new found hatred there too.
One of the quoted 'progressive Jews' in this piece, Nate Clark, said, "“When you look at the political right you see a group that seems very comfortable with Jews in Israel and very uncomfortable with Jews at home."
I peg myself as a Constitutional conservative. Nate would certainly say that I am part of the 'political right.' Given this quote from Nate, though, I have to wonder what he means by 'political right,' and whether he ever actually interacts with anyone from that cohort. Frankly, I have no idea what planet he is on when he says that those mysterious others on the 'political right' are "very uncomfortable with Jews at home."
Suzy and friends. Not to put too much on y'all's plates at once, but at some point, also take a look back at the folks you thought racist, hateful or whatever in the past and see whether you may have missed something there as well. Maybe some of them have a principled stance that was just uncritically swept in the 'hate pile'. Maybe some of these folks had good reasons for disagreeing a hot button issue. That level of reflection may make your head spin.
When they drove a nice Pittsburgh girl like Bari Weiss out of the Times, that was enough canary in the coal mine for this white, historically liberal gay, some of whose family came on the Mayflower. If I could see the writing on the wall in June, 2020, I have to wonder at the confusion of some of the folks quoted here. October 7 provided an exceptionally high threshold for soul searching; there were many earlier, well-lit exit ramps.
I hope this is the start of a broader conversation, because I don't think y'all went far enough with your questions, nor in your conversations here. These people like Rose and others seem to still be very much in denial. They were ALWAYS in denial, but even after the last 23 days of watching all aspects of our culture that is controlled by the Woke Zealots (media, academia, entertainment, big tech, and the entire Democratic Party) they are still sadly in denial.
Rose marched with the same BLM who always hated Jewish people.
No, insane Woke people are NOT comfortable with Jews in America.
Stop using words like "ally" that applies to countries in a war, which is a coded Woke word that plays into their lies and world view about "victim vs oppressor."
I am hopeful that TFP is at the forefront of moving this important conversation forward, because it beyond time for American Jews to stop being an automatic voting block for the people in the Democratic Party that hate them, that hate Israel, and that don't believe either deserve to exist.
“I started to see these intelligent, educated people..." I'm not sure how intelligent or educated these people are if they don't know the long history of Israel or the Jewish people. If they instinctively follow the woke, progressive crowd where ideology is more important than decency and morality. They reflexively repeat "from the river to the sea" without thinking what that means to the Jews living between the river and the sea. Or maybe they do realize what it means and don't care. So perhaps they should be described as ignorant and malign not "intelligent and educated"
“When you look at the political right you see a group that seems very comfortable with Jews in Israel and very uncomfortable with Jews at home...."
My politically right wing friends are very comfortable with Jews, everywhere, and in blogs and discussions express their surprise and anger at the anti-semitism from Democrats and especially on college campuses. If they say anything remotely negative, it's their wonder why Jews would support liberal politicians when liberals keep turning on them.
If the Jewish Progressives at The Free Press see conservatives as "very uncomfortable with Jews at home", they might be projecting.
Go on a field trip and observe these MAGA conservatives in their natural environment. They might find some decent people who unconditionally support Israel and are comfortable with Jews.
Have you ever seen an Evangelical Christian on a TV show or movie who wasn't the baddie? Doesn't it seem weird that everyone is all bad - every one of them is gay-hating, dance-hating small minded uptight bigot?
I promise you the professors at Liberty U are more open-minded than the ones at Berkley because they actually confront what it means to be a Fundamentalist in a modern society.
Are all working class MAGA "deplorable'? Really? How about the the burly man who confronted the poser vandal in NYC who didn't know or care if his friend was a Jew?
"Evangelical Christians and social conservatives" would NEVER excuse or ignore those who would bake a living, breathing, tiny little baby alive in an oven while it's mother is gang-raped and forced to hear her child's agonizing cries and mewls as it was being cooked alive. I had heard interviews of those who had seen the immediate aftermath in Israel who said that Hamas had done things so wicked that they couldn't even give voice to them. When I read this accounting on X today I froze. I am still quaking on the inside from the knowing of this horror. I don't have words for my rage and emotions. I am not Jewish. I don't understand this global hatred of Jews. If the good and decent people of this world do not take a stand and defend and protect Jewish people, humanity is truly going to be lost.
““When you look at the political right you see a group that seems very comfortable with Jews in Israel and very uncomfortable with Jews at home. And when you look at the political left, you see a group that seems very comfortable with Jews at home and very uncomfortable with Jews in Israel,” Clark said. “
The actions of professors and students on college campuses says otherwise, the mass protests in western cities says otherwise, your own eyes and ears tell you otherwise and yet you still can’t see the left for what it is.
imagine the shock of realizing that the people you've been calling Nazis all these years actually turn out to be the good guys.
The “Progressive Left” glorifies murderers and terrorists from the safe bubbles in which they live. I am a Cuban American whose uncle was executed by the death squads led by Che Guevara for the crime of publishing a pro democracy editorial. While growing up in the USA I felt personally insulted every time I saw clueless American young people wearing Che t-shirts. I can only imagine the pain and sorrow every Jewish person must feel to see and hear their fellow Americans cheering for Hamas and even for Nazis after the countless centuries of persecution and genocide the Jews have endured. Cristina Moore
Disclaimer: * I am Jewish *
It is a real shame these progressive Jews had to wait until the woke mob came after them - until it affected them personally - for them to recognize the insidious mind virus for what it is. Alas, one way or another, they've learned. Hopefully the lesson sticks. If not, you're all free to vote alongside the blood-thirsty, Jew-hating, LGBQT brigade (along with their fiercest ally, Hamas).
My own cousin, who until 3 weeks ago was a bleeding heart liberal, told me he know "considers himself a conservative". Hopefully progressive Jews remember the lessons of the last three weeks otherwise, for another election cycle, they will be voting against their own interests (and in this case, safety).
Sure, some old-school lefties may be "rethinking" their past activism as they realize that their "allies" are supportive of genocidal maniacs. But they'll still vote for the left-wing candidate, and thus continue to enable these horrors, because the notions of maybe voting for a Republican, or that Donald Trump is the peace candidate, are inconceivable.
People are still parroting the ADL on the "white supremacist" far-right threat when we know a bigger threat lies within the walls of colleges, specially elite ones. Young minds are being taught to hate Israel, and Jews and they will go on to their jobs in academia, government, and corporations and spew their new found hatred there too.
One of the quoted 'progressive Jews' in this piece, Nate Clark, said, "“When you look at the political right you see a group that seems very comfortable with Jews in Israel and very uncomfortable with Jews at home."
I peg myself as a Constitutional conservative. Nate would certainly say that I am part of the 'political right.' Given this quote from Nate, though, I have to wonder what he means by 'political right,' and whether he ever actually interacts with anyone from that cohort. Frankly, I have no idea what planet he is on when he says that those mysterious others on the 'political right' are "very uncomfortable with Jews at home."
Suzy and friends. Not to put too much on y'all's plates at once, but at some point, also take a look back at the folks you thought racist, hateful or whatever in the past and see whether you may have missed something there as well. Maybe some of them have a principled stance that was just uncritically swept in the 'hate pile'. Maybe some of these folks had good reasons for disagreeing a hot button issue. That level of reflection may make your head spin.
When they drove a nice Pittsburgh girl like Bari Weiss out of the Times, that was enough canary in the coal mine for this white, historically liberal gay, some of whose family came on the Mayflower. If I could see the writing on the wall in June, 2020, I have to wonder at the confusion of some of the folks quoted here. October 7 provided an exceptionally high threshold for soul searching; there were many earlier, well-lit exit ramps.
As one of the growing number of right-leaning posters here, all I can say is "We tried to tell you, but you wouldn't listen."
I hope this is the start of a broader conversation, because I don't think y'all went far enough with your questions, nor in your conversations here. These people like Rose and others seem to still be very much in denial. They were ALWAYS in denial, but even after the last 23 days of watching all aspects of our culture that is controlled by the Woke Zealots (media, academia, entertainment, big tech, and the entire Democratic Party) they are still sadly in denial.
Rose marched with the same BLM who always hated Jewish people.
No, insane Woke people are NOT comfortable with Jews in America.
Stop using words like "ally" that applies to countries in a war, which is a coded Woke word that plays into their lies and world view about "victim vs oppressor."
I am hopeful that TFP is at the forefront of moving this important conversation forward, because it beyond time for American Jews to stop being an automatic voting block for the people in the Democratic Party that hate them, that hate Israel, and that don't believe either deserve to exist.
“I started to see these intelligent, educated people..." I'm not sure how intelligent or educated these people are if they don't know the long history of Israel or the Jewish people. If they instinctively follow the woke, progressive crowd where ideology is more important than decency and morality. They reflexively repeat "from the river to the sea" without thinking what that means to the Jews living between the river and the sea. Or maybe they do realize what it means and don't care. So perhaps they should be described as ignorant and malign not "intelligent and educated"
“When you look at the political right you see a group that seems very comfortable with Jews in Israel and very uncomfortable with Jews at home...."
My politically right wing friends are very comfortable with Jews, everywhere, and in blogs and discussions express their surprise and anger at the anti-semitism from Democrats and especially on college campuses. If they say anything remotely negative, it's their wonder why Jews would support liberal politicians when liberals keep turning on them.
Time for a field trip.
If the Jewish Progressives at The Free Press see conservatives as "very uncomfortable with Jews at home", they might be projecting.
Go on a field trip and observe these MAGA conservatives in their natural environment. They might find some decent people who unconditionally support Israel and are comfortable with Jews.
Have you ever seen an Evangelical Christian on a TV show or movie who wasn't the baddie? Doesn't it seem weird that everyone is all bad - every one of them is gay-hating, dance-hating small minded uptight bigot?
I promise you the professors at Liberty U are more open-minded than the ones at Berkley because they actually confront what it means to be a Fundamentalist in a modern society.
Are all working class MAGA "deplorable'? Really? How about the the burly man who confronted the poser vandal in NYC who didn't know or care if his friend was a Jew?
Field Trip Permission Slips due Nov 14.
First they came for the truckers
And I did not speak out
Because I was not an extreme fringe minority trucker
Then they came for the MAGAts
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a racist fascist Nazi election-denying MAGAt
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew...
https://yuribezmenov.substack.com/p/first-they-came-for-unvaccinated-jews-stoves
"Evangelical Christians and social conservatives" would NEVER excuse or ignore those who would bake a living, breathing, tiny little baby alive in an oven while it's mother is gang-raped and forced to hear her child's agonizing cries and mewls as it was being cooked alive. I had heard interviews of those who had seen the immediate aftermath in Israel who said that Hamas had done things so wicked that they couldn't even give voice to them. When I read this accounting on X today I froze. I am still quaking on the inside from the knowing of this horror. I don't have words for my rage and emotions. I am not Jewish. I don't understand this global hatred of Jews. If the good and decent people of this world do not take a stand and defend and protect Jewish people, humanity is truly going to be lost.