"I met a ten-year-old who told me she was nonbinary and pansexual..."
I cannot comprehend kids, at such a young age, being obsessed with their sexuality. Pick-up ball games at the neighborhood park, riding bicycles, playing tag, swimming with friends all seems to be from a distant past. Maybe replacing traditional social activities for kids with cell phones and Ritalin wasn't the smartest move.
I would like to be able to say that you are nuts and that would never happen. I would. But I cannot.
Why?
Because if you had told me 10 yrs ago that we would be dealing with this insanity, this clearly obscene and immoral insanity, I would have said you were nuts then too. So, if history is prologue......
Some LGB groups have tried dropping the excess baggage and were immediately branded a hate group. Along with that come social media cancellations, job losses, being ignored by MSM. So far, one such group has managed to persevere - Gays Against Groomers. Look them up on Twitter.
We need gay and lesbian adults to stand UP and with conviction, LOUDLY claim they want no association with this.
They will be attacked. Yes.
But their voices will carry a lot of weight on the left. The criticism and the speaking out needs to come from within the perceived group. A bunch of middle aged, straight, white people is not gonna do it, we are already the enemy and they are not gonna listen.
Gays and Lesbians need to organize in large numbers, the kinds of numbers they used to win their civil rights. Because, if they do not, when the mounting backlash comes, they are going to get caught in it by association. I would rather not see that happen.
What the rest of us can do is to keep speaking, keep openly rejecting this, pay attention to what is going on, and pushing back and voting or boycotting.
You see someone buying a 6 pack of Bud Light......Ask them why they are buying "Trans Light" beer. Do it in the checkout line. Go buy a T-Shirt that says "Woke is the New Stupid!" and actually wear it out. Get a t-shirt that says "Team TERF" and wear that out too. I bought both of those t-shirts and I wear them out to bars, to go golfing, shopping at Walmart, at Home Goods and just to run down to the convenience store. Do NOT hide your opinion. There are more of us than of them. We are guilty by our silence and lack of willingness to accept that a confrontation is possible.
I consider myself a pretty reasonable and level headed individual. And for the longest time I would have thought what you said was preposterous. Now I'm beginning to wonder what if? The Romans normalized it I wonder if we're headed down the same path..
Madjack is spot on. There is an organization called the North American Man/Boy Love Association. (www.nambla.org). I Am Not Making This Up.
They are not hiding. They are not ashamed. They are not in the closet. And yes, that cute fourteen year old of yours? Or your sister's eleven year old son? The one with the baseball mitt and freckles? I don't know how to say this any clearer: they are out there, and the gay community is chillingly quiet about their existence, because...you know...who are 'they" to argue with someone else's sexual truth? That's how this works.
And any honest gay man will tell you, they were first attracted to boys when they were boys, not to old men. Sexualizing boys is the next "great frontier."
I’m dating myself here, but if memory serves, Phil Donahue had an episode where one of the guests, whom I’m comfortable calling a sick freak, was a representative of NAMBLA. Ech! So, that “organization” has been around a long time. Too long.
"And any honest gay man will tell you, they were first attracted to boys when they were boys, not to old men. Sexualizing boys is the next "great frontier.""
Well, I mean, as a hetero female, when I was a younger girl, all my school crushes and first experiences were with boys around my age - and as I aged my preferences aged with them. Which sounds like what you're describing for gay males. Does this make me a "pedo" too, because once I was attracted to young adolescent boys when I was their same age?
I'm describing NAMBLA, an actual non-profit org. The North American Man/Boy Love Association. It is real. It is clear in its intentions. And just as no one saw the bizarre explosion in trans contagion, not enough people are paying attention to this. If you think you're being ironic, i get it. But geez, who thought they'd be talking genderqueer in 3rd grade?
If you were around and your brain was switched on when "Gay" first became a thing, you'd KNOW that has always been part of the "Gay" agenda; whether the majority of them wanted it or not.
Reality doesn't give a flying fuck about what you, I, or anyone else thinks or feels; reality will trundle along ignoring us. There IS a slippery slope and we ALL have to acknowledge it before we devise beteween us to make the inclination too steep to do owt about.
Liberals taught me that men can be women. They also taught me that Donald Trump is a Russian spy. They also taught me that the skyrocketing crime has nothing to do with them victimizing criminals and criminalizing police. It's a bread shortage stupid. They also taught me that Donald Trump built the wall that Senators Obama, Schumer, Clinton and Biden voted for in 2006 because he is racist. They also taught me that open borders full of drugs and human trafficking are good for our country. They also taught me that white people are evil and if it weren't for our racist injustice and education systems, black people would all be millionaires. They taught me so much because they are really, really smart.
I disagree with you except for the nonsense part. Reason? Is this reason? Not one Democrats voted to defend women's sports. This isn't just a few nutcases voting to destroy women's sport. It is the entire Democrat side of the House of Representatives. This is the face of the Democrat Party:
Freedom? Biden and his Democrat minions illegally shut down the US and caving to pressure of the vile teachers' unions shut down our schools. A whole generation of students have suffered because of it. That is not freedom it is tyranny. Dictators do this kind of thing.
Tolerance? Tell me how the brutal censorship of the PC/Woke dictators is tolerance. People have been destroyed, lost their jobs by the PC/Woke for simply expressing their opinions. The First Amendment is under constant attack by the PC/Woke intolerant brutes. Paula Dean lost her TV show because of something she said 20 or 30 years ago. Conservative speakers are yelled down and have things thrown at them on left wing university campuses and professors censured.
That is not my definition of tolerance. The Democrat Party is an illogical, vile, dangerous, bunch of evil NAZIs.
The point of your post and mine is liberals so please address the subject matter and not bring up the nasty Republicans. If you want to do that, we can address that in another debate.
Anybody who supports the Constitution is a classic liberal. Which is many if not the majority of the commenters on here. As many others on here have opined before, the term "liberal" has been hijacked.
I agree with Lynne nearby. If you think conservatives aren't as broadly supportive of reason, freedom and tolerance as liberals, you need some different friends and reading materials.
Good point Lynne. This is a group that the left frequently references but doesn't actually seem to exist. They need to turn that conspiracy theorist accusation on themselves.
*sigh* I am not a progressive mom and our daughter went ROGD in high school. It happened before her father and I were even aware it was a thing - and in secret. The whole school worked against us and would not listen to mere parents - gaslighting our girl. We should not even have these rainbow clubs and gender instruction at school. I think our daughter is fine now by the way but it was some years of nightmare - no physical scares but yes to emotional scares for the whole family.
The moms who are against it generally only speak up anonymously to protect their children/not have them taken away from the family. Check out the PITT substack.
I have heard this from other parents, as well. Kids try on identities all the time but it gets dangerous when teachers (who are not trained in psychology or childhood behavior) take it upon themselves to encourage the child without the parents' involvement.
Exactly right. And, since when did society think it was a Good thing for teachers to have secrets from parents and then go directly against parental instruction after the cat is out of the bag? This creates a terrible Triangulation with the parent, child/teen, and the other adult who "understands them better".
PITT Substack will make you cry. These are the stories that should be told by MSM, so everyone will understand the horror parents/families endure as a result of trans ideology being promoted by our own schools and government. These stories are heart wrenching. No one should have to go through this. The parents are vilified by the those in “authority” and hated by their own children. My heart goes out to them. Their feelings and needs are being ignored.
The MSM will not report information that is different from what the D-Party is pushing. I suppose this is because of the "compassion" that the Ds (and MSM) all have for the perceived underdogs of the world - that is, anyone who is not born in the USA. The mystery to me is how supposedly educated, intelligent people can't see the folly of letting everybody in who wants to partake of the American culture, but without paying for it. Or rather, letting the "government" pay for it - not a clue in their heads that every working American is providing the funds for the "government."
That is the same reasoning that says "let the groomers have our children" because The Government is supporting the groomers, without considering what the future holds for children who have not learned discipline.
yes, the situation in some states is that they will take your child if you are not "gender affirming" - CA has a bill in the assembly right now - AB 957 - that is working on putting into law that whether a parent is "gender affirming" or not will decide custody
Thank you for stating that, JT. It is a horror show for parents if their kids get sucked into this GI cult. And, it is a state sponsored cult. Our daughter was precocious in some ways but socially and physically young for her age (I think I was, too). This thing does not just suck in the autistic.
The fact that schools are not only keeping parents in the dark, but PURPOSELY doing so is the main issue here for me. You don't sneak things behind parents back unless you know what you are doing is wrong. I can't imagine a single teacher I had hiding anything they or I did from my parents. And if they did, I am pretty sure they would have been fired. But this stuff is coming from the top down. Entire school systems are doing this in some places.
I am glad you were able to get through this and I hope your family flourishes. And I worry for all of those that don't find out until it is too late.
I agree with you 100%. It does come down from the top - from the White House via Biden & Rick Levine, from the teachers unions (Randi Weingarten), from terrible organizations like WPATH, HRC, and the Trevor Project, from the medical establishment and Pharma which profit from it...
"The Endocrine Society’s Dangerous Transgender Politicization
Members we spoke with take exception to the group’s guidelines on ‘gender-affirming care.’"
Most Liked comment:
"The society’s full-throated endorsement of gender-affirming care implied condemnation of anyone who holds differing views. Medical professionals are being cowed into silence and coerced into providing treatments they know are dangerous to children.
First DO NO HARM
These professionals should hang their heads in shame."
I agree that "You don't sneak things behind parents back unless you know what you are doing is wrong." They get the kids firmly converted to the Gender Religion and gaslighted about their "identities" before parents know what's up. In our case it started with grooming from a fellow student but I don't think it would have gotten far without teachers and administrators running with it behind our backs and then ignoring us when when we did catch on. As Shrier observes:
Maybe I was just slow when I was 10 but I had no idea what sex was. Of course I knew there were different sexes but I didn't put the sex thing together and I never dwelled on it. Now when I reached puberty, that was a different story.
The children are normal, same as ever. The schools and the people running them and teaching in them are abnormal.
None of this would be a thing unless woke teachers weren’t introducing the concept of “gender” in kindergarten. This was the true purpose of DeSantis’ Parental Rights in Education bill, i.e., to remove gender ideology from the classroom.
The teacher’s union supports the organization GLSEN, which trains teachers and disseminates gender material to children.
Thanks! This is a good article with a lot of back-up references. I couldn’t agree more. The decimation of the lesbian community is particularly infuriating and tragic to me. Perhaps worst of all is the large number of useful idiot lesbians who signed up to be allies in the trans cause without taking into consideration the fact that they were writing their own death decree.
Men in women’s sports? women’s prisons? No problem! We’re all sisters! Who cares if a psychopathic man claiming a woman identity murdered a lesbian couple and their son in their beds and then set the house on fire? He’s now chilling his heels in the Central California Women’s Facility. Lucky him.
You know, I hesitate to attribute this to “the left.” There’s no shortage of people who consider themselves to be left, center-left, left-leaning or liberal, also gay, who aren’t on board with this madness, just as there are people who are center-right, right-leaning or moderate, as opposed to right-wing, who feel the same. We’re dealing with something less, well, binary, harder to define, and thus more difficult to challenge, particularly when corporate media and one of the major political parties, which controls the White House, are all-in.
I can only postulate that the majority of Democrats are on board with this insane attempt to force the indoctrination of our children. The entire Dem side of the House of Reps voted to destroy women's sports.
I think LP is right. It is evil. That is not to say that gay people, trans people, non-binary people, furry people are evil. It is to say that evil thrives in times of turmoil. So the trick is for those who disavow evil to do so when faced with it. All people who disavow evil - gay, straight, trans, nonbinary . . .I do believe pedophilia is evil personified.
Also, I recommend transsexual author Corinna Cohn : https://corinnacohn.substack.com/p/the-medical-leash-of-hormone-replacement "The medical leash of hormone replacement therapy Children who are medically transitioned become permanent medical patients. "I am leashed to a medical provider. The best I can do is pick who holds the leash. The children who are being transitioned are being put on to a leash. They are typically starting the process with healthy bodies. But then our bodies are deliberately damaged. Why? For aesthetics. I'm unusual in that I'm vocal about my criticism of the system. I have heard from so many trans people that they would like to say something, but they are terrified that the people who hold their leashes will jerk on the reins. Planned Parenthood is one of the most generous of the leash-holders. "
"U.S. Sex Reassignment Surgery Market Size, Share & Trends Analysis Report By Gender Transition (Male To Female, Female To Male), And Segment Forecasts, 2022 - 2030"
Check out the "female to male" pie chart. "The FTM segment dominated the market in 2021 with the largest revenue share. ."
And, "The U.S. sex reassignment surgery market size was valued at USD 1.9 billion in 2021 and is expected to expand at a compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 11.23% from 2022 to 2030. The rising incidences of gender dysphoria and the increasing number of people opting for gender confirmation surgeries are expected to boost the growth during the forecast period. According to a study conducted by Cedars Sinai in June 2020, approximately 78% of transgender males experienced gender dysphoria by the age of 7. The mean age to experience gender dysphoria was less in transgender males, which is about 6.2 years"
"Sex reassignment surgery is gaining popularity among the young transgender population in the U.S., as it helps people with gender dysphoria transition to their self-identified gender. According to an article published in the New York Times, around 1.4% & 1.3% of young people aged 13 to 17 and 18 to 24, respectively, are transgender in the U.S., accounting for only 0.5% of total adults.
The increasing number of sex reassignment surgeries in the U.S. is expected to propel the growth of the industry during the forecast period. According to the 2020 Plastic Surgery Statistics by the American Society of Plastic Surgeons (ASPS), a 15% rise in breast or chest surgical procedures was reported in transgender male patients from 2019 to 2020.
The improving reimbursement scenario is also anticipated to positively impact the market growth during the forecast period. Insurance providers such as Aetna and Unicare provide insurance for necessary surgical procedures, such as salpingo-oophorectomy, hysterectomy, orchiectomy, or ovariectomy. In the U.S., around 152,000 transgender individuals are enrolled in Medicaid and only 69,000 among them have access to gender-affirming care coverage under state law.
A growing number of healthcare specialists have been providing consultations via telehealth. This is anticipated to have a beneficial impact on the growth of the market in the upcoming years."
"The U.S. sex reassignment surgery market is fragmented. The companies contributing to the market growth are focusing on adopting several strategies to strengthen their market presence. They are offering advanced and innovative surgical solutions, including tracheal shave (chondrolaryngoplasty), male & female breast reduction, neo-vaginoplasty, and genital remodeling. Companies are investing in LGBTQ+ healthcare and are accredited on Health Care Equality Index. For instance, in September 2020, Cedars Sinai achieved a score of 100 on the Human Rights Campaign Foundation's 2020 Health Care Equality Index. Some prominent players in the U.S. sex reassignment surgery market include:
The Mount Sinai Health System
Transgender Surgery Institute of Southern California
Yes. Somewhere I read a market research report on the tremendous growth expected in "trans" related drugs - with graphs and all. I will look for it. In the meantime, The Transgender Leviathan touches on Big Medicine: https://pitt.substack.com/p/lets-read-the-transgender-leviathan
There also seems to be a push by them to keep the public from know how many mass shootings are done by people on SSRIs. Why can't the public know this data?
The current age of puberty for girls is 8-14 and 9-14 for boys. There's some disagreement with some saying it's between 10-12. Either way, it's much earlier now than it used to be and much earlier than parents think it is.
I started very early in that range but was not anywhere near sexual maturity. Nor are today's children. If they are believed to be they have experienced something in their environment that informed them. Parents used to shield their children from that. Sexual maturity means the end to childhood.
When you start puberty and when you start really thinking about it in terms of what it means for you and your sexuality are not necessarily the same. I started puberty well before I really started caring about putting my penis into vaginas or really thinking about the dynamics that brings.
We certainly knew what sex was, porn too, in my last year of Junior School when I was around ten. Probably earlier. Was the US more po-faced than England in 1971? Maybe, but I doubt it.
The closest I got to porn would have been stealing a glance at the adult magazines — Playboy, mainly, practically wholesome by today’s standards — half-hidden on the news stand shelf, hoping the sales clerk didn’t see me do so, as I made my way to the comic books.
Social media, as pointed out above, and certainly social contagion. Throw in a failure of parenting by ideologically obsessed leftists. I wouldn’t be surprised if that 10 year old’s own mother put the pansexual idea into her head.
Granted I'm old, but when I was 10 I was still running around with skinned knees and leaves in my hair (complete tomboy). The things they are teaching kids are disgusting and unnecessary. The word depraved comes to mind.
I still can’t figure it out. My children need to explain pansexuality to me each time. I just can’t remember what it means. Yep, even now I can’t remember?
I think as parents, we need to be involved. Limiting social media and smartphones, particularly with young kids. I’m a mom of 3 and no social media or smartphones in my house. We need to also talk to our kids and influence them in a positive way.
Unfortunately, that needed to be YOUR parents or even grandparents, I think. That horse bolted a long time ago. Quite a lot, probably most, things you might want to insulate youngsters from were already loose and accessible to youngsters decades before the smartphone even.
I agree in a way. My grandparents did not have TV until very late in life. I remember them lamenting all the time the grandkids spent watching it, which was trivial compared to now. Captain Kangaroo and Deputy Dawg. But looking back I think they were right. It was the introduction to screen world.
I think with a lot of them, it’s a desire to be part of the new cool kids club. Who can be the biggest freak? I mean, tattoos, facial piercings and green hair are pretty much passé now, so they have to up the ante.
That is what I think is driving much of this too. And not just with the young 'uns. There are some women and men in my community that clearly like their shock value.
It means "look at me, I am different! I need validation!"
And while I say that tongue and cheek, I think that is what it really boils down to. Being queer lets be part of the supposedly victimized groups without having to actually have anything about you that would get you to be a victim. So you get the attention, community and moral superiority, without having to actually do anything to attain it aside from taking a label and maybe dying your hair blue.
I have to confess that I've developed a nearly overwhelming attraction to power tools over the last couple decades, even for those I know I will likely never need. Unfortunately, my son seems to lack any interest, and neither does my daughter. I guess when I die, someone will get some good deals at the estate sale.
People have actually formed attachments to pillows. And a few cases of people marrying buildings and the like. So I don't doubt that it can be a thing for someone...especially since it gets them attention. As this goes on, people will find weirder and weirder things because they will have to in order to stand out
Well, it is way past where it is just because the kids have phones/social media. Gender Ideology is a state endorsed fundamentalist religion preached in the schools, see https://www.thetruthfairy.info/p/little-miss-trouble
I would add that it is a new cult.
This just out today:
"Dr. McCullough Talks with Mothers about Dangers of Transgenderism
Indoctrination, Victimization, and Horrors of Hormonal and Surgical Treatment Revealed
This is precisely the reason poll numbers are falling. Americans are comfortable with sex between two consenting adults no matter what orientation they are. Americans also consider it a private matter. I would be taken aback if when meeting someone, they chose without my asking to proclaim they were heterosexual. Why? Because I don’t care.
I fully understand the gay rights movements of the past that were instrumental in passing legislation that granted rights and benefits previously denied them. It was a long time coming and an enormous victory.
The journalist’s confusion with a “tribe” he is part of is telling.
Hearing ten and eleven year olds declaring their sexuality is the straw breaking the camel’s back for many of us. Unlike the not too distant past, we can’t blame illicit porn or hanging out with the wrong crowd for their introduction to something they aren’t emotionally prepared for. It is being actively promoted and encouraged by, of all places, our schools. Angry parents at school board meetings aren’t outliers. They speak for the majority of Americans who would rather our kids and grandkids discover naturally who they are on their own schedule. I have to question the motives of people bent on sexualizing young children. This used to be taboo in society. Enough is enough. Let’s keep sex and sexuality behind closed doors where it belongs. Not in my face 24/7.
When they start going after young children, then we need to care. Children under 14 cannot legally understand the difference between right and wrong. And yet the schools are pushing material that they are not emotionally really to understand. Most children who are confused early in life grow out of that confusion. So to glorify their confusion only reinforces that the lgbt etc community is trying to groom young kids.
People proclaim their heterosexuality in many ways all the time and every day. At my office, the guys all talk about women they dated, put photos of their wives and girlfriends on their desks, and consistently say things like "my wife..." or "my girlfriend ..." This is not considered political.
I keep a picture of my husband on my desk because, when work gets insane, I can look at it and it makes me happy and reminds me of why I'm working in the first place yet the same people who have a photo of their wife or girlfriend will accuse me of being political or "promoting the gay lifestyle" when, at the end of the day, it's the exact same thing they're doing.
I wouldn’t call placing a photo of one’s significant other “proclaiming” their sexuality. In this case it is as you describe, a source of comfort. I know many people who display photos of their beloved pets for the same reason. Nothing wrong with either. If someone accuses you of “promoting the gay lifestyle” for having a picture of your partner on your desk the underlying problem lies with them. Most of us are more than happy to see others happy with whomever they choose to be with. Unfortunately social media and political division have made a sport for the unstable among us to disparage others for everything from whom they vote for to the products they buy and so on. Ignoring irrational intolerance and proselytizing from both ends of the political spectrum is in everyone’s best interest.
I do not doubt that kids at that age are beginning to think about sex. I probably did.
What I take issue with is that the online culture, the culture in the schools and in the media seems to want to rush these kids to have their sexuality be a central focus of their existence at a time when they should be wrestling with whether they are too old to play with their Legos.
What I take issue with is that these same institutions, and left wing politicians, are working to frame these kids thinking at a time when they are really malleable and open to influence by adults and social pressure. That framing is that anyone can be anything on some unlimited spectrum and indeed you are not cool or you are oppressed if you do not embrace something on that spectrum that is not he hetero norm. They seem to be pushing kids to think that only being abnormal is cool. Worse, they seem to be leveraging the usual angst and fear of children entering puberty to convince them that they need to be anything but hetero norm.
I was in HR and we were not allowed to ask anything about sexuality. Now u need so many LBGTQQPOC+ people on the board ? Where do u get the info ? Can u just claim to be one ?
It is my understanding that there is specific language used in resumes and letters of introduction. Which would make sense. Every group has its jargon.
I have to ask, as someone who moved from another country as a young child but still was raised very clearly in the ways and values of my birth country, why do American kids start to think about relationships and sex so early? This isn't even limited to gay kids, it seems to actually be even worse in straight kids. But it feels like they are thinking about relationships as early as like 7-8 and sex at like 12-13. For me, it seemed weird before age 15-16 to even think about relationships.
1. Kids are hitting puberty earlier and earlier, girls in particular. That does not help.
2. The culture.
a) Used to be that there were the right clothing for kids and for adults. Now? You would be hard pressed to find clothes that a 13 yr old girl wears that a 40 yr old woman would wear. Similar, but not quite the same for guys.
b) Advertisers have been pushing "sexy" advertising to younger and younger people OR using younger and younger models in sexy advertising.
c) Movies, TV, social media.....more and more sexy, edgy stuff being exposed to kids.
d) Lot of broken families. Makes kids feel insecure. They want a "loving relationship" outside the home and family.
There is just a lot in the culture that does two things simultaneously, it makes them give up childhood too soon and put off adulthood too long. Adolescence is no longer a few years in your middle teens but now goes from middle school into your mid twenties. This leads to a general immaturity for an extended period of time while simultaneously being given a lot of freedom to be hedonistic.
My kids were raised without broadcast TV, had very limited access to the internet and spent tons of time outside. The few times they saw TV at a friend’s house they came home and talked about hit weird it was.
My daughter is raising her kids as she was raised. My 9 year old granddaughter is what you and I consider a normal healthy kid. She’s grossed out by boys, adores collecting insects, etc.
In terms of her cohort she’s definitely an outlier but that’s okay with us.
What parent says, “you know a great kid friendly weekend activity? A parade of fetish sex-obsessed adults engaging their fetishes in public!”
I can’t fathom taking my ELEMENTARY age kids or grandkids to such an event.
I made the mistake of getting lost in SF in the mid 80s as a stranger to the place and ended up seeing part of the “gay pride” exhibition. The whole thing was horrifying, which is saying something coming from a teenage street kid.
I had the same experience when I was growing up in San Francisco. I have a super vivid memory of walking to a printers shop to pick up some stuff for my mom when I was 14 years old in 1982. The errand required me to go past the borders of my own neighborhood into the Castro district. My family was oblivious to the fact that a gay pride parade was even happening that day. I remember walking down the street and viewing all of this bizarre perverted behavior that I really still don’t even know how to describe or process. It was a profoundly disturbing and, frankly, terrifying experience after which I was never the same. I remember being frozen in shock at what I was seeing and just wanting to get away and wipe those images from my mind. I knew I had seen something that no child should see. I never made it to the print shop and ran all the way home. I did not even know the words to use to tell my mom what I had witnessed. And now parents take their children to see this stuff like it’s some kind of family friendly activity? It’s just so wrong.
Look up Norm MacDonald’s hilarious bit about parents in those parades with “I’m proud of my gay child” - way over the top, as he was, but funny. As with all good humor, it has truth in it, I’m sure
This is exactly the behavior DeSantis is trying to stop. No sex for tots ! If u read his bill it has nothing to do w gay . It’s about parental rights. In a perfect world this law would be unnecessary . This story makes me like DeSantis
Nope, for an AR-15. You might trade THAT for an orange jumpsuit. But that might be unlikely - "Americans might try everything else first; but eventually they do the right thing"
These ARE relics of the past, and that’s where we went wrong. Not too long ago kids didn’t have time to selfishly obsess about “gender identity,” a phrase relatively new to the lexicon. Alas, these activities were deemed unsafe. A kid could get kidnapped. He/she could get a concussion from a bop on the head. A wipe out could leave a child mangled and bloodied. Someone could drown or be paralyzed from diving in the shallow end. Could. Could. Could. Could. Always a risk, but rarely a reality. Nevertheless, to eliminate the threats, parents, schools, the government and medical community have made the world so safe for kids, they’re now subjected the a vile movement that seeks to destroy them all in the name of affirmation of some perverted fantasy. How sad.
Exactly! When I was a kid, in the dark ages, every free moment I was outside playing with my friends, climbing tree, playing baseball with a tennis ball and a broom stick for a bat.
Rather like those who don't believe in God WILL believe in Something Else, kids who can't do that which comes naturally (aka "play") WILL do Something Else -- particularly when encouraged to do so.
Because God got you 9/11. The US exists largely because of Christer zealots who wanted the freedom to oppress others. From the moment religious cultists sieze or are given the reigns of power; the killing begins. Whether it is for Quetacoatl or Christ. We need better solutions; not repetition of earlier just as grotesque failings as the ones we wish to escape.
Christianity, like all religions, was a very unifying experience in what would become modern Europe and to a lesser extent the Middle East. Much of what we recognize as western civilization is directly attributable to Christianity and Jadaism. And while there are undeniably examples of poor behavior associated therewith the Enlightenment is aptly named. The US would not exist without spiritual belief. As for Christian zealots who wanted to be free to oppress others. BS. They just kicked others the way the bloody Brits, Anglicans, kicked them. Not commendable but imminently understandable.
The irony is that crime in reality is lower than ever and the odds of a child being kidnapped by a stranger are absurdly low (not that it isn't tragic when it happens). In some places, people even REPORT the parents of unattended children for the "crime" of <gasp> letting their kids go to the park alone.
As best I can tell, it means that "I want to be accepted into the group but I'm not gay or trans, so I have to pick something." When authority figures applaud people for being LGBTQ etc, you will get more of it. Pretty basic.
The unfortunate part is that it is undermining the people that are truly struggling to figure themselves out as this article points out. I have much sympathy for the truly confused, but the social contagion aspect of this movement makes me queasy.
Definitely a social contagion. I told my daughter a few years years ago when most of her friend group came out as “bi” that there was nothing less cool than a straight white female unless it was a straight white male. That definitely drives a lot of this stuff for pre-teens and teens
Sounds like these events are the replacement for “old” clubs like Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, after school clubs, church and so on for these particular young children.
So, they might be the next altar boys, just worshiping a different God with new priests to help them out.
"New priests to help them out." Seems so accurate but truly turns my stomach.
We all know the massive harm a few priests did to an unsuspecting public. The main difference with these new priests is that they feel their attraction to little boys and girls is actually ok. How much harm will they do before they are stopped?
At that tender age, I surely had crushes on girls, and Olivia Newton-John and Princess Leia caused stirrings within prepubescent me, but it wasn’t something on which I dwelled. As you note, there was important kid stuff to do!
The topic of sex would have been, at the very least, inappropriate and uncomfortable, or worse, suspect: Why do you know about these things? Did someone do something to you?
I’m mournful for the deliberate loss of innocence that many children now — although not as many as we’re often led to believe — will suffer, which they can never get back, and the sacrifice of the exciting, sometimes awkward but ultimately rewarding self-discovery that comes with growing up.
It is by design. The elites love to have sex with kids-all young, supple, and fresh. Plus the younger the kid is, the more afraid they become, thus getting all that good adrenochrome rolling.
2019 me would have said this was batshit crazy but I believe the elites rape children and do the other weird stuff they do out of bizarro ubermenschen fantasy. Rules and taboos are for little people! Look how powerful and untouchable we are!
To be fair, most kids that age aren’t. This is specifically at a Pride parade where people who are thinking about that stuff will be there. So you will get a much higher percentage than average who are thinking about this, even kids.
>>I cannot comprehend kids, at such a young age, being obsessed with their sexuality<<
SERIOUS question here, I'm not trying to be snarky: How are gay, nonbinary, or pansexual 10- and 11-year-olds any different from 10- and 11-year-girls plastering on eye makeup, mascara, and lipstick—which is a fairly frequent sight in classrooms throughout the conservative, Trump-voting little burg I live in?
You answered your own question. The first group is children brainwashed into revolving around their genitals (or removing their genitals) and jumpstarting their sexuality. The second group is playing dress-up.
Exactly I wondered what a Trump burg looked like. I’d imagine we all living in the same burg, in fact if this human is living in a Trump burg I would think they lucky. Imagine living in a Pelosi burg, SF don’t look to pretty at this stage.
The makeup, hair bow, and soccer shirt girls. Always saw it as a way of expressing themselves and discovering their passions and expressing them. The passion for sports and love of being on a team along with duplicating their mother's look and forming it to be theirs. (girls with makeup have mothers with the full makeup face in the school's car pool lane)
Wondering why a parent would allow a child to channel so much of their interest and energy into just sexuality. What happened to a life where a child is encouraged to be passionate about singing, biking, to be great at math, and experience their many interests? There has got to be more to a person than their sexual identity and a parents' job is to insure that a child's world is open to developing into a total human being.
To misquote Emily Dickinson...to croak your sexuality how boring like a frog.
I always thought it was weird when mothers take their 5 year olds to get their nails done. Is that because they are so selfish they can't forego their own nails to take their kids to a park and play? Didn't the mother then think this would be a lifelong obsession with how you look, how feminine you are etc? It starts somewhere.
One of them sees sex acts in public. The other does not. That’s the elephant in the room for n the videos I’ve seen. Wasn’t so long ago that locals, parents and police would’ve stopped that instantaneously. Now? Heck they pulled that in front of the WH with their flag hung high on the building.
If you’d popped out of a time capsule from 2000 you’d ask if the country had fallen in a civil war.
With respect, I don’t think little girls trying on makeup is unique to “conservative, Trump-voting” burgs, although you’re probably less likely to see little boys doing so.
I’d also argue that conservatives aren’t necessarily Trump voters, but that’s a whole other topic.
That is the problem. If you are to win you have to vote en bloc for the candidate with the most support. If that is Trump; tough. You'll take one for the team or EVERYBODY DIES.
And that attitude is why both side keep voting for crappy candidates. No one is allowed to vote their conscience. Vote for the lesser of evils or else.
Yes, child pageant culture is gross. Is it still thriving, though? When it comes up, I always think of JonBenét Ramsey. I imagine more than a few people make that association.
Sometimes it’s due to external brainwashing. However, often it’s their own parents. To leftists, having “queer” or “trans” kids gives great status in their cult religion.
I thought about sex a lot at the ages of ten and eleven, but those thoughts seemed inherently private to me. Kids at those ages are too young to date and have no reason to be declaring sexual orientations to all and sundry.
Acceptance is dropping because it just kept going. Pride week became pride month. Corporations slapped rainbow flags on everything. People who weren't demonstrative flag wavers got canceled. It's become a religious movement with ideological capture happening across the Western world. Of course there's a backlash. I don't give a shit who people sleep with and I don't need sexual identity shoved in my face. I don't want to hear about it from straight people either.
Right? Why is this "movement" all about sex? Can you imagine a bunch of hetero people dancing in our normal clothes on top of a bus, expecting other citizens to "worship our unique selves"?
Nancy, heterosexual people have no “safe place” because, as the so-called “majority” they are the privileged, or religious, or Right Wingers, or just fill in the blank with a derogatory identifier!
If you don’t kowtow to the WOKE ideology/agenda, then just “SHUT the Fu*k up”
I've posted this before, and borrow part from James Dobson. First we were expected to be tolerant than we had to be accepting, it moved to a requirement to be approving, next we were forced to be celebrating, now if not declaring membership in some made-up marginalized group we are expected to sit down and shut the f**k up. :(
or just think I was an idiot. Who would have thought libraries were so performative? Back in the day, you were told to "hush" in a library, not hoot and clap.
Ha ha ha...good point! But seriously...if we went and asked for hetero-married-god loving-flag waving-USA first hour, I bet $100 they wouldn't allow it. I am surprised more people aren't doing this to highlight the absurdity of drag queen story hour.
I have been tempted to ask my local library. I live in a smallish town...one of the library staff... transgender...went to Barnes and Noble... transgender staff person, another staff person seemed on the LGBTQ spectrum...it's like I am the minority of straight female persons....I don't get out much (by choice!) And it's like society changed overnight.
No sane person, straight or gay, wants to be around other people’s children, or wants them allowed entry into bars or nightclubs. People need breaks from their own children!
Then just hire a babysitter...that used to be acceptable...now you have to take your kids to "me-time" activities...like drag queen story hour, the nail salon?
This day will come, I believe. But right now very, very, very few books for children show humans or humans in a relationship/family. The animal/fantasy characters are not in anything but the vaguest, loosest relationships also. Children’s literature reflects our atomization and the transhuman culture.
Bloomingdale’s in NYC has has the Pride colors up all freaking June. Before that it has been the Ukraine blue and yellow, the latest iteration of the Current Thing ™️. Yes it is NYC but it shows the hive mind of the corporate elite.
Odds that on July 1 the colors of the Eastern Europe corrupt cesspool will be back up, even on Fourth of July Weekend? TBD…
OMG. If it becomes #PrideSeason in the States, I'm going to cry. #Pride in 2023 has devolved into an orgy of hedonism and narcissism and capitalism, and I'm so f*cking done.
The blue and yellow of the Ukranian flag has been replaced with the "rainblow" flag. Maybe those Ukranian patriots could use some leather jockstraps and rubber phalluses to fend off the hetero Russkies instead of cruise missiles (come to think of it, a cruise missile might soon make an appearance in the NYC fellatio float parade).
I’m inclined to have the same sentiment. And then you see crazy shit like “trans” legislators trying to pass legislation that redefines pedophilia as simply another sexual orientation and makes minors consenting individuals. So, I’d be more specific and say I don’t care who ADULTS sleep with. But leave the kids alone.
It's not "trans" legislators. It's Democrats. And legislation you've described there is already being signed into law. CT's new HB 6638 for example, adds "age" as a non discriminatory protected class and replaces "sexual" orientation with "gender" orientation. Firmly embedding gender identity ideology and the notion that kids have the agency to consent to gender surgeries and/or sex with adults into state law. https://www.cga.ct.gov/2023/BA/PDF/2023HB-06638-R01-BA.PDF
Read what you posted on the law. It specifically EXCLUDES sexual criminal behavior. So no "right" to have sex between children and adults. Assume the state has some version of the Romeo and Juliet laws which prescribed what is the minimum age of consent and how many years are allowed between parties for consent.
Granted, I should have slipped "eventually" in there, before the "sex with adults". But with the way things have been going, especially in these "progressive" states, do you really think that one single sentence in an otherwise bat shit crazy law is enough to keep that at bay? I sure don't. That newly minted "agency for consent" will inevitably be leveraged and tested in the courts. Bet on it. Get one kid on the stand to say "I consented to have sex with an adult. Don't discriminate against me. I have rights." and we're there. Lines drawn in sand wash away with the next wave. And as much as we'd like to think we won't go there- just look at where we are now.
You don't get it. It is ALL criminal behaviour and that bill is all crime; every word and every clause. The same line has been trotted from before I was born. This is different how exactly?
Imagine being introduced to someone and their first words were "I like cunnilingus" or "I favor feet?" Not only is this bizarre, it's boring beyond measure. As others have stated, "who cares, just don't impose your fetishes on me."
Maybe in the next gay pride parade they can have a float were LBGTQLMNOPs are having sex. Throw in a guy having sex with a goat.
You do know there is a movement to accept sex with animals? The next thing to happen you will be labeled a bigot if the sexiest think you do with your German Shepard is scratch him/her behind the ears.
Maybe we could have them sodomizing some kids...really wake people up. It could be a litmus test. See how many people want to put their kid on the float and have an adult transgender person raping their child... it's all good?! WTF have we come to? Will it take that to blow this up?
In LA last week an SUV repeatedly rammed a police car. The officer fired on the assailant and eventually stopped the assault by striking them. My second thought centered around wondering when the driver of the SUV would be celebrated and the VP visited their hospital bedside. It would surprise no one at this point.
I was laughing, Bruce. cuz I was about to think, huh.. I think it’s the first comment by Terrence I see that comes without referencing my hapless motherland. 🤭
Government and corporate coercion combined with schools very secretively teaching CRT plus pride flags replacing American flags finally got everyone’s attention.
The culture war is white hot now.
Let’s see what happens in 2024 -- one party decided to call the other the precise things they actually are -- will voters notice?
Probably.
Meanwhile the government itself contacts what can only be described as Soviet Struggle seasons -/
But, Sam, we must remember Biden won with 81 million votes while sitting in his basement! “He’s the most popular President in the history of this Country”
AND he’s announced he’s going for his 2nd term in 2024 ... you can’t be serious thinking the Government & Corporations won’t win again?! You aren’t being serious, right??!!
I truly hate to say something out loud that will make me sound like a “conspiracy theorist” but I have doubts (fears) Centrists/Conservatives/anyone not WOKE Left will win another election. That Red Wave was a huge red flag.
True but when does emptying the mental institutions end? Etc. Hear ya, but there's still this huge mass of stupids out there, many of whom are actually alive. Can we vote our way out? Hope so. Be well.
I am twice as old as the author of this article, so remember when gays had to hide in the closet and yes PFLAG was pretty amazing . This group was formed by parents whose children were in the closet and they decided enoough. They soon found they had a lot of "friends" who were willing to march with them in the Pride parades.
Two of my dear friends who have been together for 40 years got married last month in the Az town where they have lived for 30 years. They are so beloved, that .the entire town turned out to celebrate . I can assure you that if anyone wants to send them back into the closet many of these folks will go into their OWN closets to retrieve the gun that is legal in this open carry state. Please don't take me literally. The newlyweds are actually anti=gun peaceniks since both are pretty dedicated Christians. . It is to say that whatever the figures indicating a decline in support of old boring gays, it wouldn't happen to them in that town.
There's no "safe space" for heterosexuality. And it's reaching the point where there's no safe space for the mainstream lesbian/gay community either.
We're forbidden to have a school assembly (that follows the school-sponsored drag queen show) to celebrate the heterosexual lifestyle or to discuss the demonstrated societal, educational, and economic benefits of the traditional two-parent family. To even suggest having such an event would result in shaming and accusations of aggression from the trans community.
But it's considered to be acceptable to spend our tax dollars to publicly endorse (and even encourage) the trans lifestyle. Crazy.
I actually think this is an important article here. To hear a voice from inside the alphabet soup telling us it doesn't really make sense to him either. That this movement isn't what it was. That the initial mission of equal rights has gone off the rails and entered Wonderland.
Even from the perspective of a gay man who's been marching in pride events for 25 years this all feels disconnected from reality. It used to be born this way. And now it's, what flavor of Skittles am I today?
It's refreshing to hear that someone living in that soup isn't buying this claptrap either.
I remember when gay people said- we just want to be left alone to live out our gay lifestyle without persecution. 20 years later - it’s YOU BETTER CELEBRATE MY NARCISSISTIC BEHAVIOR OR ELSE!
Gay people are not the problem here. We did exactly what we said we wanted to do. See my comment elsewhere. These people - the trans activists/ gender ideology people are not gay! They hitchhiked into our car and then stole the car, and are trashing us. (We were certainly wrong to pick them up. I deeply regret that.)
I think the only group here that can right the ship is the L’s and G’s. You guys ( gals) need to get your shit together before it all blows up around you.
I have no idea how except as Pee Wee Herman said: "Scream real loud". We have no power in those groups that were formerly for gay rights. Anyone who doesn't toe the trans line is kicked out. No, I think we (gay folks) and straight folks together have to quash it. And, feminists are working on it via lots of new organizations like WOLF, Independent Women's Network, the Lesbian Project, ICONS. I don't know if gay men are actively working on it, though.
Figures like Andrew Sullivan, Douglas Murray, Andrew Doyle, and Fred Sargeant, just off the top of my head, are very vocal about their opposition to the more extreme elements of the movement.
I hate to disagree because you sound so reasonable. But how about the gay people going after the cake maker? I respect people who keep there sexuality private. My sexuality does not define me.
As a gay man, I see the cake case in two different ways. If the bakery had refused to sell food to someone just because they're gay, that is wrong. This was beyond that--they were asking someone to make a cake with a specific message the person baking did not want to convey.
I'd view it the same way if I owned a bakery. If a full-on Trump supporter with a MAGA hat and Trump t-shirt came in and wanted to buy a dozen cupcakes then sure, I'd sell them the cupcakes. If they asked me to make a cake that says "Trump is the Second Coming of Jesus" I would refuse.
What does bother me, though, is that if a Christian came in and wanted a cake with a crucifix and "Jesus is Lord" on it, I would be forced to make it because Christians are a protected class.
Where it gets dicey is when it comes to things like medical care. If an E.R. doctor says "I refuse to treat a gay person who was beat up because of my religion" or a cop says "I refuse to take a crime report from a gay person."
Justice Ginsburg had said there are two issues in the law: where do you draw the line and who decides. In this case, A couple in their 30s got upset that the bakery wouldn't make the cake and complained to Civil Rights Commission in Colorado chose to sue to advocate that the line should be drawn that businesses shouldn't discriminate. It wasn't a gay organization that sued. The Commission felt that it was akin to saying "no blacks". I didn't agree and instead, believe that we need to balance the civil rights of gay people with the conscious and morality of religious folks. The bakery winning upset not one gay person I know. I'm glad they won. I am not sure why you are talking about keeping one's sexuality private. If two straight people are getting married and let me know, they aren't keeping their sexuality private!
I have to disagree- i think what we are seeing is the natural progression of “I just want my fair(equal) share mentality. The gay lobby is powerful, vocal and well funded and have created this mess
The "gay lobby" doesn't exist anymore - it has been overthrown by the queer lobby. The queer lobby is creating this mess. The etiology of the trans movement is very different from the gay movement and has completely different purposes. It is, in fact, anti-gay (in that they want to abolish sex as a category and replace it with gender) and anti-women. Did you read Andrew Sullivan's piece? I think he does a great job and showing the difference between the two.
Ah, m'lady, but Some of Us saw this coming -- and They went ahead anyway. You see, just as equal race rights morphed into Something Else. Once a profitable infrastructure is built for a Quest, it will not go away when the Quest succeeds. It's Econ 101 -- I sure wish that I knew the solution to that one, too.
As one Youtube commentor put it, at that point the movement must act to preserve itself even though its goals are complete, the kind of preservation instinct that even bacteria have. Hence second, third, fourth wave feminism -- there's no point at which "feminism" is full and complete, because it's now a spiritual lifeform fighting for its own survival and relevance.
Confusion. "Gay rights" I get; seems to me that, had Cooler Heads gotten with the idea that what adults do privately and mutually consensually is their business, perhaps the Profitable Infrastructure of Victimhood (see the post in which I explain that elsewhere if it's not obvious) might not have been irreversibly set in place. "Equal rights" throws me; context please?
They said they just wanted to be left alone; and first chance they got the floats rolled. Normalising paedophilia was in there from the gitgo too. This was forty years ago; not twenty. A lot of folk internalised bullshit along the way getting to your twenty years ago.
Yes, Nancy, totally agree with what you stated! Gone are the days of “live & let live”
Of course, there are still people on the Right who condemn the LGB community, which is their prerogative. But their views and, or personal beliefs should not be forced on those who have different beliefs.
I think (may be wrong) the majority of Americans just want the insanity to stop! If you want to be WOKE, okay, but don’t push it on those who don’t! Unfortunately, both sides “need” their beliefs to be accepted, or BY GOD ...
He is but one of many. Andrew Sullivan and Katie Herzog, just to name a couple notables, are on record lamenting how ridiculous and off track activists have become. There are significant disagreements within the letter group and some hesitancy to be lumped in with an ever increasing constituency. The lines are blurring even there.
That's one reason the LGB Alliance was formed (in the UK) by escapees from Stonewall, which, having won the battle for gay marriage and adoption, converted to gender ideology, thereby taking the sex out of homosexual.
OrionPeace, I have gay friends who say the LGB movement, they worked so tirelessly for, has been hijacked & taken over by the “T ... other alphabet letter people” and they are throughly disgusted with it.
The author buries the lead - GLSEN. That's where it starts and why 10 year olds are focused on who they're "sexually attracted to" vs. playing with dolls or jumping dirt bikes or fishing for crawdads or any of the many other things ten year olds used to do before the woke infested the schools and parents let their kids sit on social media all day. There's a certain delicious irony that you couldn't talk about ivermectin on social media but "influencers" could school kids on hormones in a doom loop on SM.
Buried further in this piece is the "tribe" aspect. That's key. It IS a tribe and I've heard more than one of my gay friends describe the gay community that way over the decades. But now it's a tribe AND an identity AND a religion/sect/cult and that combo is potent. Some of that is innate but a large part of it is a choice. Further, for a certain subset of mother it's a new identity too - a Munchausen by proxy level community of trans that gives her attention and other (usually) women who create a potent and destructive feedback loop. Unfortunately, they're enabled by a "system" of doctors, psychologists, teachers, and officials who normally would check that level of destruction but not in this case. They're grifters and it's an industry and there's too much money to make.
The trans/queer/woke IS coming for the "Gs" and "Ls" (and "Ss"). Because it's a RELIGION. And we're witnessing a social phenomenon that's rare (thankfully) but typically destructive (unfortunately).
I was heartened to see the polling pullback on support for gay marriage not because I don't support gay marriage (I do) but because I think it might FINALLY act as a siren call to the "Gs" and the "Ls" and give them the kick in the pants they've clearly needed since at least 2020. They're in a unique position to shut the extremism at their fringe down or, at least, join the moms and the dads and the Christians and the Muslims in their "domestic terrorism" DOJ/SPLC-labeled corner to fight for some sanity.
The rub, of course, as with race, is that we'd gotten to a place where sexual preference and race just weren't "important" anymore to people. The "movements" had worked. MLKs dream was pretty much there. Ditto Milk and those who worked diligently for marriage for all. People were just people and we were generally just making it work. But, alas, the grifters have to grift. And in a country where people don't "like" religion, well, they need something to believe in and so, a new religion is born even though they don't like to call it that. Yet.
(1) Being straight and 'cis' is boring. Especially if you are a white male. An easy way to be more interesting is to claim an identity from the alphabet soup of LGBTQ etc.
(2) If you are, i.e. 'identify as' trans, you can claim to be a victim - a member of the 'most oppressed and marginalized' group in the world (I would argue that female judges in Afghanistan have it worse) - and thereby gain status in your peer group, since being a victim in our current culture is very cool. You also get a lot of attention and might upset your parents - even more cool!
(3) If you claim to be a great athlete or musician, you could be asked to prove it, which you can do if you have been training for many years. If you claim to be genderqueer, non-binary or whatever, you don't have to have accomplished anything at all. All you have to do is wave the rainbow flag and hold up a placard saying Trans Rights are Human Rights. Very very easy. A gift for those who are inclined to be self-righteous.
(4) They're already coming for the Ls and Gs, especially the Ls. And especially the Ls who are 'TERFS', who are getting cancelled and threatened and bashed, and their meeting places are being invaded by trans-identified males who claim to be lesbians. Recently at a demo in Glasgow a placard was seen that said Decapitate TERFS.
(5) There is a fight back - the LGB Alliance, Sex Matters, A Woman's Place (all UK) - but it's difficult when so many institutions (the NHS, the BBC, etc) have been captured by gender ideology.
Since you mention race, I often wonder how many children jump on this band wagon to get out of the oppressor class. Is the racial demographic in this “community” the same as in the general population? Anyone seen any data on this?
You have it mostly right, but you are missing a key point I think. Traditionally, the so-called gay community, while a diverse motley crew with varied interests, was simply about survival, mutual empowerment, and a fight to just exist without having our heads bashed in for merely walking down the street. Inclusion in any "identity" was wholly voluntary with the only talk of "recruiting" coming the likes of a failed orange juice spokesperson.
Much of the agitation today is coming not from within but from without. The clinically insane Neo-Marxists have co-opted the gay rights movement the way the have with race and completely contorted and destroyed its true meaning. Their agenda is to weaken America by pitting us against each other and apparently to eliminate the very concept of gender.
It's unfortunate that so many of the young have been sucked into this hostile vortex and are being forced to question every aspect of themselves for fear of swift judgement and expulsion from the in-group.
For me, this is no longer my gay rights movement and I'm having nothing to do with it. Yet it saddens me to no end watching so much of the actual progress those of my generation fought for be systematically regressed.
GLSEN has found a warm, safe womb in our public middle schools where it’s hard to distinguish adults from the kids when it comes to maturity. At that stage in the lives of children when they need disciplined, self-confident, authoritative adults equipped to hew to the straight and narrow in a miasma of wonky hormones, districts staff middle schools with legions of Fred the Dancing Bears from Captain Kangaroo. The first MS principal that gives GLSEN the boot should win the Nobel.
Surely one of the most frustrating aspects of the LQBITEDKJD3.14 movement is its insistence that your fluid gender and sexual attraction is THE MOST IMPORTANT THING EVER NOTHING ELSE MATTERS OMG!!!
I happen to be attracted to women. I've had friends who are gay, that's great. It's not really a big deal though.
What have you created, what do you like to do, what is your character like, are you fun to be around? That's the type of stuff that matters but the cultural tyrants would have us believe that nothing is more important than who you want to sleep with. Yawn, boring.
Ten and eleven year-olds think they know anything about sexuality? Theirs or anyone else's? Seriously?
The whole current gender idiocy is little more than attention seeking in an internet-driven youth culture in which nothing could be more cool. Severe gender dysphoria is, of course, entirely real, but until just a very few years ago was vanishingly rare and largely confined to adult men who had felt female since childhood. Today every other adolescent white girl claims to be trans. Not a boy, mind you, but trans, because that's what's cool; after all, who in their right mind would willingly identify as that most hated of all pond scum, a white male?
This would all just be another silly and passing teenage fad were it not for an army of shrieking activists, mostly men in dresses, which has bullied the medical profession into embracing it, while also making a tidy profit, thank you very much. And what greater badge of virtue could good progressive parents proudly wear than encouraging their confused children to mutilate themselves hormonally and surgically? The lobotomy bandwagon of the 1950's pales by comparison to the hundreds of thousands of young lives irreversibly damaged by this destructive craze.
Don’t forget the virtue signaling parents who are also urging their children down the path thinking “I just want little Johnny to be happy.” All the while forgetting that children like to play pretend and use their imaginations and explore ideas that don’t and probably shouldn’t be materialized in the real world because well ... they’re children.
Jason, I’m reminded of Bill Maher saying he wanted to be a pirate as a kid & when he grew up. He was thankful his parents (teachers/doctors/politicians) didn’t take him seriously, and have his eye cut out, so he could wear a patch, OR cut a leg off, so he could be peg legged.
Yes, it's all performance. It's the TikTokification of Pride.
Gay people did not want any of this. We want far away from the TQ's.
I forgive the kids who are creating these fake 'identities' because they're kids; they'll look back someday and cringe (hopefully). But the adults encouraging and participating in this are either idiots or monsters.
I hope all they’ll have to face in the future is cringe. But a lot of these kids are being put on a medical conveyor belt of “gender-affirming care” that quickly walks them down a path of “treatment” that will facilitate irreversible physical changes (puberty blockers, etc). So, I fear the virtue signaling adults are allowing damage to be done that these kids will have to live with their entire lives.
The drop in support has come because the alphabet movement has gone from simply wanting equal rights to the TQ+++ people who are not content with mere tolerance or acceptance, but who demand that we celebrate them and give them special privileges. They demand we change our language (cis, birthing person, chest-feeding, etc.) and share our preferred pronouns with everyone. Trans-women are stomping all over the rights and safety of actual women and want those women to apologize for feeling uncomfortable or angry. But, worst of all, they’ve come for our children, pushing for gender and sex education in elementary school and teaching kids to lie to their parents about their experimenting and confusion. In addition to encouraging ten-year-olds to declare themselves “non-binary” or trans, they’re pushing for irreversible and disastrous pharmacological and surgical interventions in these confused children.
So, as a long-time ally for gays and lesbians—I have beloved family members who are gay—I’m fed up with the trans-plus zealots. The decrease in general support is no surprise.
I think that this essay, along with Andrew Sullivan’s recent articles regarding the fanaticism and medical malpractice of transgenderism, indicate a watershed moment in the gay movement, and that’s a good and healthy sign. The success of gay rights was not due to drag queens’ histrionics.
Rather, the common sense fairness of gay rights won over middle America because we, like Sen Rob Portman in Ohio, have sons, daughters, loved ones, and next door neighbors who were same-sex attracted and just wanted to live the normal, good, everyday life that heterosexuals took for granted.
Gender dysphoria has become the new cool kids competition, much like kids collecting Pokémon cards. It’s absolutely ludicrous, and must be treated as such. Thank you for this helpful essay.
I actually was happy to see that this guy was just as confused as the rest of us. But he lost me with the “I still enjoy the womanly feeling I get when I put on a dress; I am as able as the next homo to tap into my femininity.”
This still irks me on so many levels. You can’t know what it it fella like to be a woman. You are not one. In a bajillion years I will never know what it feels like to be a man. I’m not one.
I’m with Remesh...there is something more sinister going on here and it’s the industrial complex/ big pharma who have now gotten our kids. It was a smart move on their part, but seriously it’s like a pack of dogs coming for our kids, who want to tear them apart. Who among us will stand up to save them? 🙋🏻♀️
I think you missed his point. He was differentiating expressing feminine energy as a gay man versus feeling like you ARE a woman.
I don't think this author is saying he is a woman at any point in time. That putting on a dress and channeling his inner woman is the same as saying I'm a woman today.
I think he experiences a similar experience to when I put on my Viking gear. I'm not Viking. But when I'm decked out there is a different mindset all the while knowing I'm not a Viking. And never will be.
At least, that's what I got out of it. His recognition that there is a difference between feeling a thing and believing you are the thing because you dressed up like one.
I’m not trying to be uncharitable and I support the right of people to fool around privately however they find interesting, BUT: if he’d said “I put in extensions and do a Z-snap and enjoy the blackish feel I get” it would be understandable for a black person to respond DOOOOD COME ON NOT COOL. Maybe this is why people used to keep their weird fooling around private?
And what happens when wearing the dress and having that “womanly” feeling means I think I should be able to use the women’s bathroom and changing room ....
‘This still irks me on so many levels. You can’t know what it it fella like to be a woman. You are not one. In a bajillion years I will never know what it feels like to be a man. I’m not one. ‘
I think people have alphabetical sex fatigue and are developing an attitude of get out of my face and space with your poor is me, I am special crap. None of this is special and I really don’t care what your pronouns or sexual choices are. Do your life and don’t expect me to care or cheer you on.
We have gay friends but because they don’t push this and they talk and do normal things. Many are truly whatever but my guess is a large percentage has joined or jumped in because they have issues of mental illness and are desperate to belong to anything. That includes the desperate for attention parents who actively promote their whatever child at a young age. Just leave us alone and get a life and stop demanding everyone change just for you. Not going to happen sunshine.
I am 77. When I was a little girl, I kept saying I wish I were a boy. The reason was that I wanted a paper route (remember those?) There was no way for a young girl to earn money. I shudder to think what might have happened to me today.
My mom is 83 and says the same: she played sports, babysat to get money for her bike, and is 100% sure she’s be at least labeled trans. She’s the coolest woman I know.
This is so misogynistic I can’t even believe it. Numerous women who defied *gender stereotypes* and achieved great things not in spite of being of a woman but BECAUSE of being a woman are now trying to be retrospectively labeled trans. St. Joan of Arc wasn’t a woman seeking to be a man so she could lead, she was a WOMAN called to lead.
Equality for women is once again being undermined by men but we’re supposed to be ok with it because they’re men who say they’re women. The double think!
Misogyny is a real thing; thank you!!! The push to label historic females as trans is just a new way to minimize and diminish women who are really women. It's a form of scorn, denial and animosity directed at accomplished and exceptional women.
My grandma, born in the 1910s, once told my mom that when she (grandma) was a kid, she’d pray every night that when she woke up in the morning, God would have turned her into a boy. She went on to marry my grandpa and have six kids.
Thinking she just realized that it was a man's world at that time. Women worked very hard to change that, and we deserve to be recognized for what we are....women.
This same grandma thought she was dying when she got her first period, because no one had explained menstruation to her. I don’t know if the “praying to be a boy” thing was before, after, or both.
She was very big on all of her kids pursuing higher education, including the girls. (Five kids went to college and one went to carpentry training.) She told my mom, “Even if you don’t want a career, you need to be able to have one if your husband dies and you have to support yourself and your children.” She was an elementary school teacher.
Attention seeking is a cry for help. Especially when it's being done by kids. It's no surprise that kids are losing their minds and acting out in disturbing numbers now. We've destroyed the family and have outsourced our kid's care to the Market or the State. Both of which have their own agendas.
It's crazy to me how the gay rights movement has allowed itself to be hijacked by the gender identity religion. Recognizing that gay people no more 'choose to be gay' than straight people choose to be straight, and thus were entitled to be treated equally, was an important thing to push for and an important milestone for our society.
Now we've got people pushing this weird Cartesian dualism in which my 'spirit' may be different from my biology. It's non-sensical. You're not a 'spirit' with a body. You don't 'have' a body. You 'are' a body. Your gay brothers and sisters didn't choose to be gay. They didn't wake up one day and say, "Body, I want you to be attracted to the same sex as me."
In the same way, you can't choose what sex your body is. You can cos-play all you want, but your body is what it is.
I don't think we let it be hijacked. They hijacked it after we retired because, hey, we won the rights we wanted. So they took over organizations that were developed for gay rights (like the Human Rights Campaign) and turned it into a queer thing. We can't get back those organizations - they no longer care about gays and lesbians. But, we can say - please help us to battle the trans movement/ gender ideology and realize we are with you, not them. (At least the older gay movement folks... the young are a whole different story.)
Thanks for adding the clarification. I'd never want to blame good people for what has become of these organizations. My frustration with this issue gets the best of me some times.
"I met a gay eleven-year-old boy..."
"I met a ten-year-old who told me she was nonbinary and pansexual..."
I cannot comprehend kids, at such a young age, being obsessed with their sexuality. Pick-up ball games at the neighborhood park, riding bicycles, playing tag, swimming with friends all seems to be from a distant past. Maybe replacing traditional social activities for kids with cell phones and Ritalin wasn't the smartest move.
My thoughts too. A 10 year old calling herself pansexual?!? Why is that even in the vocabulary of a 10 year old?
Because social media and the schools are putting it there.
Sexualizing children because their next goal is the normalization of pedophilia.
I would like to be able to say that you are nuts and that would never happen. I would. But I cannot.
Why?
Because if you had told me 10 yrs ago that we would be dealing with this insanity, this clearly obscene and immoral insanity, I would have said you were nuts then too. So, if history is prologue......
Right, pedophelia is rebranded as MAPs (Minor Attracted People).
It's horrifying.
From another loving mother
10 years is about right, how we go here -Bilek sums it up nicely in her video https://youtu.be/tLXdoqXbC6k
That is the entire point of TQAIN2S. The LGB need to drop them like the dead weight they are.
Some LGB groups have tried dropping the excess baggage and were immediately branded a hate group. Along with that come social media cancellations, job losses, being ignored by MSM. So far, one such group has managed to persevere - Gays Against Groomers. Look them up on Twitter.
We need gay and lesbian adults to stand UP and with conviction, LOUDLY claim they want no association with this.
They will be attacked. Yes.
But their voices will carry a lot of weight on the left. The criticism and the speaking out needs to come from within the perceived group. A bunch of middle aged, straight, white people is not gonna do it, we are already the enemy and they are not gonna listen.
Gays and Lesbians need to organize in large numbers, the kinds of numbers they used to win their civil rights. Because, if they do not, when the mounting backlash comes, they are going to get caught in it by association. I would rather not see that happen.
What the rest of us can do is to keep speaking, keep openly rejecting this, pay attention to what is going on, and pushing back and voting or boycotting.
You see someone buying a 6 pack of Bud Light......Ask them why they are buying "Trans Light" beer. Do it in the checkout line. Go buy a T-Shirt that says "Woke is the New Stupid!" and actually wear it out. Get a t-shirt that says "Team TERF" and wear that out too. I bought both of those t-shirts and I wear them out to bars, to go golfing, shopping at Walmart, at Home Goods and just to run down to the convenience store. Do NOT hide your opinion. There are more of us than of them. We are guilty by our silence and lack of willingness to accept that a confrontation is possible.
Well welcome to the world of the boring non-cutting edge.
Being a coward is never difficult. Being courageous takes fortitude. I fully support LGB Alliance and other groups.
Ahem, its 'intergenerational relationships' ... we must water down the term with all of the requisite new-speak.
I consider myself a pretty reasonable and level headed individual. And for the longest time I would have thought what you said was preposterous. Now I'm beginning to wonder what if? The Romans normalized it I wonder if we're headed down the same path..
We are well down the same path...
And the Roman Empire eventually fell for lots of reasons. We are becoming just like them.
I can see it. For sure.
Madjack is spot on. There is an organization called the North American Man/Boy Love Association. (www.nambla.org). I Am Not Making This Up.
They are not hiding. They are not ashamed. They are not in the closet. And yes, that cute fourteen year old of yours? Or your sister's eleven year old son? The one with the baseball mitt and freckles? I don't know how to say this any clearer: they are out there, and the gay community is chillingly quiet about their existence, because...you know...who are 'they" to argue with someone else's sexual truth? That's how this works.
And any honest gay man will tell you, they were first attracted to boys when they were boys, not to old men. Sexualizing boys is the next "great frontier."
I’m dating myself here, but if memory serves, Phil Donahue had an episode where one of the guests, whom I’m comfortable calling a sick freak, was a representative of NAMBLA. Ech! So, that “organization” has been around a long time. Too long.
"And any honest gay man will tell you, they were first attracted to boys when they were boys, not to old men. Sexualizing boys is the next "great frontier.""
Well, I mean, as a hetero female, when I was a younger girl, all my school crushes and first experiences were with boys around my age - and as I aged my preferences aged with them. Which sounds like what you're describing for gay males. Does this make me a "pedo" too, because once I was attracted to young adolescent boys when I was their same age?
I'm describing NAMBLA, an actual non-profit org. The North American Man/Boy Love Association. It is real. It is clear in its intentions. And just as no one saw the bizarre explosion in trans contagion, not enough people are paying attention to this. If you think you're being ironic, i get it. But geez, who thought they'd be talking genderqueer in 3rd grade?
That was policy for the German Greens back in the 80s
If you were around and your brain was switched on when "Gay" first became a thing, you'd KNOW that has always been part of the "Gay" agenda; whether the majority of them wanted it or not.
Reality doesn't give a flying fuck about what you, I, or anyone else thinks or feels; reality will trundle along ignoring us. There IS a slippery slope and we ALL have to acknowledge it before we devise beteween us to make the inclination too steep to do owt about.
I've seen it in action, it's Progressive moms pushing this ideology on their kids at a young age.
I got this from a friend:
Liberals taught me that men can be women. They also taught me that Donald Trump is a Russian spy. They also taught me that the skyrocketing crime has nothing to do with them victimizing criminals and criminalizing police. It's a bread shortage stupid. They also taught me that Donald Trump built the wall that Senators Obama, Schumer, Clinton and Biden voted for in 2006 because he is racist. They also taught me that open borders full of drugs and human trafficking are good for our country. They also taught me that white people are evil and if it weren't for our racist injustice and education systems, black people would all be millionaires. They taught me so much because they are really, really smart.
I still identify as a liberal - reason, freedom, and tolerance. I use the word far-left for this nonsense.
I disagree with you except for the nonsense part. Reason? Is this reason? Not one Democrats voted to defend women's sports. This isn't just a few nutcases voting to destroy women's sport. It is the entire Democrat side of the House of Representatives. This is the face of the Democrat Party:
https://www.dailysignal.com/2023/04/20/not-1-democrat-votes-to-protect-girls-sports/
Freedom? Biden and his Democrat minions illegally shut down the US and caving to pressure of the vile teachers' unions shut down our schools. A whole generation of students have suffered because of it. That is not freedom it is tyranny. Dictators do this kind of thing.
Tolerance? Tell me how the brutal censorship of the PC/Woke dictators is tolerance. People have been destroyed, lost their jobs by the PC/Woke for simply expressing their opinions. The First Amendment is under constant attack by the PC/Woke intolerant brutes. Paula Dean lost her TV show because of something she said 20 or 30 years ago. Conservative speakers are yelled down and have things thrown at them on left wing university campuses and professors censured.
That is not my definition of tolerance. The Democrat Party is an illogical, vile, dangerous, bunch of evil NAZIs.
The point of your post and mine is liberals so please address the subject matter and not bring up the nasty Republicans. If you want to do that, we can address that in another debate.
Anybody who supports the Constitution is a classic liberal. Which is many if not the majority of the commenters on here. As many others on here have opined before, the term "liberal" has been hijacked.
I agree with Lynne nearby. If you think conservatives aren't as broadly supportive of reason, freedom and tolerance as liberals, you need some different friends and reading materials.
I consider myself a progressive in the traditional sense when it really was progressive and not some AOC/woke kind of thing.
They are the only ones I EVER hear reference "Q" or QAnon" too.
Good point Lynne. This is a group that the left frequently references but doesn't actually seem to exist. They need to turn that conspiracy theorist accusation on themselves.
Lol.
A Conservative being taught something.
*sigh* I am not a progressive mom and our daughter went ROGD in high school. It happened before her father and I were even aware it was a thing - and in secret. The whole school worked against us and would not listen to mere parents - gaslighting our girl. We should not even have these rainbow clubs and gender instruction at school. I think our daughter is fine now by the way but it was some years of nightmare - no physical scares but yes to emotional scares for the whole family.
The moms who are against it generally only speak up anonymously to protect their children/not have them taken away from the family. Check out the PITT substack.
I have heard this from other parents, as well. Kids try on identities all the time but it gets dangerous when teachers (who are not trained in psychology or childhood behavior) take it upon themselves to encourage the child without the parents' involvement.
Exactly right. And, since when did society think it was a Good thing for teachers to have secrets from parents and then go directly against parental instruction after the cat is out of the bag? This creates a terrible Triangulation with the parent, child/teen, and the other adult who "understands them better".
PITT Substack will make you cry. These are the stories that should be told by MSM, so everyone will understand the horror parents/families endure as a result of trans ideology being promoted by our own schools and government. These stories are heart wrenching. No one should have to go through this. The parents are vilified by the those in “authority” and hated by their own children. My heart goes out to them. Their feelings and needs are being ignored.
The MSM will not report information that is different from what the D-Party is pushing. I suppose this is because of the "compassion" that the Ds (and MSM) all have for the perceived underdogs of the world - that is, anyone who is not born in the USA. The mystery to me is how supposedly educated, intelligent people can't see the folly of letting everybody in who wants to partake of the American culture, but without paying for it. Or rather, letting the "government" pay for it - not a clue in their heads that every working American is providing the funds for the "government."
That is the same reasoning that says "let the groomers have our children" because The Government is supporting the groomers, without considering what the future holds for children who have not learned discipline.
Thank you for saying so, MLT.
yes, the situation in some states is that they will take your child if you are not "gender affirming" - CA has a bill in the assembly right now - AB 957 - that is working on putting into law that whether a parent is "gender affirming" or not will decide custody
Thank you for stating that, JT. It is a horror show for parents if their kids get sucked into this GI cult. And, it is a state sponsored cult. Our daughter was precocious in some ways but socially and physically young for her age (I think I was, too). This thing does not just suck in the autistic.
The fact that schools are not only keeping parents in the dark, but PURPOSELY doing so is the main issue here for me. You don't sneak things behind parents back unless you know what you are doing is wrong. I can't imagine a single teacher I had hiding anything they or I did from my parents. And if they did, I am pretty sure they would have been fired. But this stuff is coming from the top down. Entire school systems are doing this in some places.
I am glad you were able to get through this and I hope your family flourishes. And I worry for all of those that don't find out until it is too late.
Thank you. And, me too.
I agree with you 100%. It does come down from the top - from the White House via Biden & Rick Levine, from the teachers unions (Randi Weingarten), from terrible organizations like WPATH, HRC, and the Trevor Project, from the medical establishment and Pharma which profit from it...
https://dailycaller.com/2023/06/30/tucker-carlson-rachel-levine-trans-ideology/
https://pitt.substack.com/p/the-trevor-project-undercover-mom
"The Endocrine Society’s Dangerous Transgender Politicization
Members we spoke with take exception to the group’s guidelines on ‘gender-affirming care.’"
Most Liked comment:
"The society’s full-throated endorsement of gender-affirming care implied condemnation of anyone who holds differing views. Medical professionals are being cowed into silence and coerced into providing treatments they know are dangerous to children.
First DO NO HARM
These professionals should hang their heads in shame."
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-endocrine-societys-dangerous-politicization-endocrinologists-gender-affirming-care-arkansas-dac768bd?mod=Searchresults_pos1&page=1
I agree that "You don't sneak things behind parents back unless you know what you are doing is wrong." They get the kids firmly converted to the Gender Religion and gaslighted about their "identities" before parents know what's up. In our case it started with grooming from a fellow student but I don't think it would have gotten far without teachers and administrators running with it behind our backs and then ignoring us when when we did catch on. As Shrier observes:
"Therapists, teachers, and school counselors play evangelist to numberless kids at American school." https://www.thetruthfairy.info/p/little-miss-trouble
I don't really "like" this but I appreciate the input.
They are being groomed. That is how.
Gotta be
Maybe I was just slow when I was 10 but I had no idea what sex was. Of course I knew there were different sexes but I didn't put the sex thing together and I never dwelled on it. Now when I reached puberty, that was a different story.
The children are normal, same as ever. The schools and the people running them and teaching in them are abnormal.
None of this would be a thing unless woke teachers weren’t introducing the concept of “gender” in kindergarten. This was the true purpose of DeSantis’ Parental Rights in Education bill, i.e., to remove gender ideology from the classroom.
The teacher’s union supports the organization GLSEN, which trains teachers and disseminates gender material to children.
https://www.glsen.org/activity/gender-triangle-education-guide
https://www.genderinclusivebiology.com/newsletter/glsen-gender-triangle-graphic-and-education-guide
https://dailycaller.com/2023/06/25/opinion-its-time-for-a-big-fat-gay-divorce-deroy-murdock/?utm_source=piano&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=29912&pnespid=7rZ1Bi9aZb1HwaLNumi.Ds_ctEqqBIl5cOy_3LY2rgFmVf_H5fYKcsZyw1bVQVVv8vMOeQuacA
Thanks! This is a good article with a lot of back-up references. I couldn’t agree more. The decimation of the lesbian community is particularly infuriating and tragic to me. Perhaps worst of all is the large number of useful idiot lesbians who signed up to be allies in the trans cause without taking into consideration the fact that they were writing their own death decree.
Men in women’s sports? women’s prisons? No problem! We’re all sisters! Who cares if a psychopathic man claiming a woman identity murdered a lesbian couple and their son in their beds and then set the house on fire? He’s now chilling his heels in the Central California Women’s Facility. Lucky him.
https://reduxx.info/breaking-trans-activist-sent-to-womens-prison-to-serve-life-sentence-for-slaughter-of-california-family/
That story was horrible. I wasn't surprised it didn't get any attention from the MSM.
Lest you think I copied you, I made a very similar comment, even using “dwelled on,” before seeing yours.
It’s clear this was the experience for most of us.
The left is just plain fuckin' crazy, evil.
You know, I hesitate to attribute this to “the left.” There’s no shortage of people who consider themselves to be left, center-left, left-leaning or liberal, also gay, who aren’t on board with this madness, just as there are people who are center-right, right-leaning or moderate, as opposed to right-wing, who feel the same. We’re dealing with something less, well, binary, harder to define, and thus more difficult to challenge, particularly when corporate media and one of the major political parties, which controls the White House, are all-in.
I can only postulate that the majority of Democrats are on board with this insane attempt to force the indoctrination of our children. The entire Dem side of the House of Reps voted to destroy women's sports.
https://www.dailysignal.com/2023/04/20/not-1-democrat-votes-to-protect-girls-sports/
I think LP is right. It is evil. That is not to say that gay people, trans people, non-binary people, furry people are evil. It is to say that evil thrives in times of turmoil. So the trick is for those who disavow evil to do so when faced with it. All people who disavow evil - gay, straight, trans, nonbinary . . .I do believe pedophilia is evil personified.
Puberty is supposed to trigger that interest. It is the natural order.
And ought not to be haulted with "puberty blockers". The NHS in England recently banned them. I am not seeing that in headlines in the US, however.
I think all of us should realize after the Covid debaucle that Big Pharma is not our friend and is way too powerful.
Also, I recommend transsexual author Corinna Cohn : https://corinnacohn.substack.com/p/the-medical-leash-of-hormone-replacement "The medical leash of hormone replacement therapy Children who are medically transitioned become permanent medical patients. "I am leashed to a medical provider. The best I can do is pick who holds the leash. The children who are being transitioned are being put on to a leash. They are typically starting the process with healthy bodies. But then our bodies are deliberately damaged. Why? For aesthetics. I'm unusual in that I'm vocal about my criticism of the system. I have heard from so many trans people that they would like to say something, but they are terrified that the people who hold their leashes will jerk on the reins. Planned Parenthood is one of the most generous of the leash-holders. "
Indeed. Here is an eye popping report:
"U.S. Sex Reassignment Surgery Market Size, Share & Trends Analysis Report By Gender Transition (Male To Female, Female To Male), And Segment Forecasts, 2022 - 2030"
https://www.grandviewresearch.com/industry-analysis/us-sex-reassignment-surgery-market
Check out the "female to male" pie chart. "The FTM segment dominated the market in 2021 with the largest revenue share. ."
And, "The U.S. sex reassignment surgery market size was valued at USD 1.9 billion in 2021 and is expected to expand at a compound annual growth rate (CAGR) of 11.23% from 2022 to 2030. The rising incidences of gender dysphoria and the increasing number of people opting for gender confirmation surgeries are expected to boost the growth during the forecast period. According to a study conducted by Cedars Sinai in June 2020, approximately 78% of transgender males experienced gender dysphoria by the age of 7. The mean age to experience gender dysphoria was less in transgender males, which is about 6.2 years"
"Sex reassignment surgery is gaining popularity among the young transgender population in the U.S., as it helps people with gender dysphoria transition to their self-identified gender. According to an article published in the New York Times, around 1.4% & 1.3% of young people aged 13 to 17 and 18 to 24, respectively, are transgender in the U.S., accounting for only 0.5% of total adults.
The increasing number of sex reassignment surgeries in the U.S. is expected to propel the growth of the industry during the forecast period. According to the 2020 Plastic Surgery Statistics by the American Society of Plastic Surgeons (ASPS), a 15% rise in breast or chest surgical procedures was reported in transgender male patients from 2019 to 2020.
The improving reimbursement scenario is also anticipated to positively impact the market growth during the forecast period. Insurance providers such as Aetna and Unicare provide insurance for necessary surgical procedures, such as salpingo-oophorectomy, hysterectomy, orchiectomy, or ovariectomy. In the U.S., around 152,000 transgender individuals are enrolled in Medicaid and only 69,000 among them have access to gender-affirming care coverage under state law.
A growing number of healthcare specialists have been providing consultations via telehealth. This is anticipated to have a beneficial impact on the growth of the market in the upcoming years."
"The U.S. sex reassignment surgery market is fragmented. The companies contributing to the market growth are focusing on adopting several strategies to strengthen their market presence. They are offering advanced and innovative surgical solutions, including tracheal shave (chondrolaryngoplasty), male & female breast reduction, neo-vaginoplasty, and genital remodeling. Companies are investing in LGBTQ+ healthcare and are accredited on Health Care Equality Index. For instance, in September 2020, Cedars Sinai achieved a score of 100 on the Human Rights Campaign Foundation's 2020 Health Care Equality Index. Some prominent players in the U.S. sex reassignment surgery market include:
The Mount Sinai Health System
Transgender Surgery Institute of Southern California
Cedars Sinai
Moein Surgical Arts
Boston Medical Center
Cleveland Clinic
CNY Cosmetic & Reconstructive Surgery
Plastic Surgery Group Rochester
The University of Michigan Health System
The Johns Hopkins University"
Yes. Somewhere I read a market research report on the tremendous growth expected in "trans" related drugs - with graphs and all. I will look for it. In the meantime, The Transgender Leviathan touches on Big Medicine: https://pitt.substack.com/p/lets-read-the-transgender-leviathan
Table of Contents:
1 Patient Zero
2 Bad Medicine
3 Big Medicine
4 Coming for Your Kids
5 The Politics of Transgenderism
6 Social Contagion
7 The Way Forward
There also seems to be a push by them to keep the public from know how many mass shootings are done by people on SSRIs. Why can't the public know this data?
We should consider that puberty now begins earlier than in years past.
Maybe. Supposedly triggered by increased body weight at younger years. Or the hormones in milk and everything else.
Or the high concentrations of synthetic estrogen and progesterone in municipal water supplies as a result of hormonal birth control excretion.
No one wants to take about that. Easier to blame chickens.
The current age of puberty for girls is 8-14 and 9-14 for boys. There's some disagreement with some saying it's between 10-12. Either way, it's much earlier now than it used to be and much earlier than parents think it is.
I started very early in that range but was not anywhere near sexual maturity. Nor are today's children. If they are believed to be they have experienced something in their environment that informed them. Parents used to shield their children from that. Sexual maturity means the end to childhood.
When you start puberty and when you start really thinking about it in terms of what it means for you and your sexuality are not necessarily the same. I started puberty well before I really started caring about putting my penis into vaginas or really thinking about the dynamics that brings.
Those were the good old days .
We certainly knew what sex was, porn too, in my last year of Junior School when I was around ten. Probably earlier. Was the US more po-faced than England in 1971? Maybe, but I doubt it.
Here 10 is 4th grade and is not junior high.
Unless your a Doogie Howser type who speeds through or skips several grades.
And it does happen but it is exceedingly rare. Also often those youngsters have advanced intellect but not emotional development.
*you’re
The closest I got to porn would have been stealing a glance at the adult magazines — Playboy, mainly, practically wholesome by today’s standards — half-hidden on the news stand shelf, hoping the sales clerk didn’t see me do so, as I made my way to the comic books.
WAY TOO EARLY for that IMO. It's ridiculous.
Social media, as pointed out above, and certainly social contagion. Throw in a failure of parenting by ideologically obsessed leftists. I wouldn’t be surprised if that 10 year old’s own mother put the pansexual idea into her head.
How else would you get a 'trophy child. '
Granted I'm old, but when I was 10 I was still running around with skinned knees and leaves in my hair (complete tomboy). The things they are teaching kids are disgusting and unnecessary. The word depraved comes to mind.
You are correct, Laura. No chance to be a tomboy these days. What a horrific time to be a child, or a parent.
I still can’t figure it out. My children need to explain pansexuality to me each time. I just can’t remember what it means. Yep, even now I can’t remember?
I think as parents, we need to be involved. Limiting social media and smartphones, particularly with young kids. I’m a mom of 3 and no social media or smartphones in my house. We need to also talk to our kids and influence them in a positive way.
https://www.waituntil8th.org
Unfortunately, that needed to be YOUR parents or even grandparents, I think. That horse bolted a long time ago. Quite a lot, probably most, things you might want to insulate youngsters from were already loose and accessible to youngsters decades before the smartphone even.
I agree in a way. My grandparents did not have TV until very late in life. I remember them lamenting all the time the grandkids spent watching it, which was trivial compared to now. Captain Kangaroo and Deputy Dawg. But looking back I think they were right. It was the introduction to screen world.
I agree. I have never participated on social media. This BBS is the closest I get to it.
If you want to be different sexually, but not classified as LGB or T, pick pansexual.
I think with a lot of them, it’s a desire to be part of the new cool kids club. Who can be the biggest freak? I mean, tattoos, facial piercings and green hair are pretty much passé now, so they have to up the ante.
That is what I think is driving much of this too. And not just with the young 'uns. There are some women and men in my community that clearly like their shock value.
Might as well just call it I don't have a clue.
It’s a kitchenware form of kink like the Aunt Jemima treatment
If that’s a “Stripes” reference, I salute you.
Or “queer,” which I think even some straight people use.
I still don’t know what queer means.
It means "look at me, I am different! I need validation!"
And while I say that tongue and cheek, I think that is what it really boils down to. Being queer lets be part of the supposedly victimized groups without having to actually have anything about you that would get you to be a victim. So you get the attention, community and moral superiority, without having to actually do anything to attain it aside from taking a label and maybe dying your hair blue.
Being attracted to cookware is a thing?
I have to confess that I've developed a nearly overwhelming attraction to power tools over the last couple decades, even for those I know I will likely never need. Unfortunately, my son seems to lack any interest, and neither does my daughter. I guess when I die, someone will get some good deals at the estate sale.
People have actually formed attachments to pillows. And a few cases of people marrying buildings and the like. So I don't doubt that it can be a thing for someone...especially since it gets them attention. As this goes on, people will find weirder and weirder things because they will have to in order to stand out
Pansexual is a fancy version of bi-sexual. Means attracted to everyone, including non-binary.
Maybe because you’re too smart to have to remember such nonsense.
I don’t even want it in my vocabulary.
IMO that kid is being groomed and coached by a malignant narcissist
Well, it is way past where it is just because the kids have phones/social media. Gender Ideology is a state endorsed fundamentalist religion preached in the schools, see https://www.thetruthfairy.info/p/little-miss-trouble
I would add that it is a new cult.
This just out today:
"Dr. McCullough Talks with Mothers about Dangers of Transgenderism
Indoctrination, Victimization, and Horrors of Hormonal and Surgical Treatment Revealed
PETER A. MCCULLOUGH, MD, MPH™ JUN 24, 2023"
https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/dr-mccullough-talks-with-mothers
This is precisely the reason poll numbers are falling. Americans are comfortable with sex between two consenting adults no matter what orientation they are. Americans also consider it a private matter. I would be taken aback if when meeting someone, they chose without my asking to proclaim they were heterosexual. Why? Because I don’t care.
I fully understand the gay rights movements of the past that were instrumental in passing legislation that granted rights and benefits previously denied them. It was a long time coming and an enormous victory.
The journalist’s confusion with a “tribe” he is part of is telling.
Hearing ten and eleven year olds declaring their sexuality is the straw breaking the camel’s back for many of us. Unlike the not too distant past, we can’t blame illicit porn or hanging out with the wrong crowd for their introduction to something they aren’t emotionally prepared for. It is being actively promoted and encouraged by, of all places, our schools. Angry parents at school board meetings aren’t outliers. They speak for the majority of Americans who would rather our kids and grandkids discover naturally who they are on their own schedule. I have to question the motives of people bent on sexualizing young children. This used to be taboo in society. Enough is enough. Let’s keep sex and sexuality behind closed doors where it belongs. Not in my face 24/7.
When they start going after young children, then we need to care. Children under 14 cannot legally understand the difference between right and wrong. And yet the schools are pushing material that they are not emotionally really to understand. Most children who are confused early in life grow out of that confusion. So to glorify their confusion only reinforces that the lgbt etc community is trying to groom young kids.
Bingo!!
People proclaim their heterosexuality in many ways all the time and every day. At my office, the guys all talk about women they dated, put photos of their wives and girlfriends on their desks, and consistently say things like "my wife..." or "my girlfriend ..." This is not considered political.
I keep a picture of my husband on my desk because, when work gets insane, I can look at it and it makes me happy and reminds me of why I'm working in the first place yet the same people who have a photo of their wife or girlfriend will accuse me of being political or "promoting the gay lifestyle" when, at the end of the day, it's the exact same thing they're doing.
I wouldn’t call placing a photo of one’s significant other “proclaiming” their sexuality. In this case it is as you describe, a source of comfort. I know many people who display photos of their beloved pets for the same reason. Nothing wrong with either. If someone accuses you of “promoting the gay lifestyle” for having a picture of your partner on your desk the underlying problem lies with them. Most of us are more than happy to see others happy with whomever they choose to be with. Unfortunately social media and political division have made a sport for the unstable among us to disparage others for everything from whom they vote for to the products they buy and so on. Ignoring irrational intolerance and proselytizing from both ends of the political spectrum is in everyone’s best interest.
That is truly sad. Shame on them!
The piece was intended as light-hearted and non-confrontational, but I would be interested to hear how the youngest people defined those terms.
I do not doubt that kids at that age are beginning to think about sex. I probably did.
What I take issue with is that the online culture, the culture in the schools and in the media seems to want to rush these kids to have their sexuality be a central focus of their existence at a time when they should be wrestling with whether they are too old to play with their Legos.
What I take issue with is that these same institutions, and left wing politicians, are working to frame these kids thinking at a time when they are really malleable and open to influence by adults and social pressure. That framing is that anyone can be anything on some unlimited spectrum and indeed you are not cool or you are oppressed if you do not embrace something on that spectrum that is not he hetero norm. They seem to be pushing kids to think that only being abnormal is cool. Worse, they seem to be leveraging the usual angst and fear of children entering puberty to convince them that they need to be anything but hetero norm.
Sexual aberration has become a requirement in many areas.
Another reason public sentiment toward homosexual behavior is falling: in the 2000s those promoting it insisted it wasn’t about other people’s kids.
Turns out it is and everyone knows it.
Plus WTH happened to sexuality being private? Why is it public fodder at all?
I was in HR and we were not allowed to ask anything about sexuality. Now u need so many LBGTQQPOC+ people on the board ? Where do u get the info ? Can u just claim to be one ?
It is my understanding that there is specific language used in resumes and letters of introduction. Which would make sense. Every group has its jargon.
Yes, you can claim to be whatever you want and people must accept it...except race. That is still a nono (for now)
Bravo ☝️. This is why I love the comment section.
I have to ask, as someone who moved from another country as a young child but still was raised very clearly in the ways and values of my birth country, why do American kids start to think about relationships and sex so early? This isn't even limited to gay kids, it seems to actually be even worse in straight kids. But it feels like they are thinking about relationships as early as like 7-8 and sex at like 12-13. For me, it seemed weird before age 15-16 to even think about relationships.
Why? Oh....I think it is a combination of things.
1. Kids are hitting puberty earlier and earlier, girls in particular. That does not help.
2. The culture.
a) Used to be that there were the right clothing for kids and for adults. Now? You would be hard pressed to find clothes that a 13 yr old girl wears that a 40 yr old woman would wear. Similar, but not quite the same for guys.
b) Advertisers have been pushing "sexy" advertising to younger and younger people OR using younger and younger models in sexy advertising.
c) Movies, TV, social media.....more and more sexy, edgy stuff being exposed to kids.
d) Lot of broken families. Makes kids feel insecure. They want a "loving relationship" outside the home and family.
There is just a lot in the culture that does two things simultaneously, it makes them give up childhood too soon and put off adulthood too long. Adolescence is no longer a few years in your middle teens but now goes from middle school into your mid twenties. This leads to a general immaturity for an extended period of time while simultaneously being given a lot of freedom to be hedonistic.
Most of it depends on how the kids are raised.
My kids were raised without broadcast TV, had very limited access to the internet and spent tons of time outside. The few times they saw TV at a friend’s house they came home and talked about hit weird it was.
My daughter is raising her kids as she was raised. My 9 year old granddaughter is what you and I consider a normal healthy kid. She’s grossed out by boys, adores collecting insects, etc.
In terms of her cohort she’s definitely an outlier but that’s okay with us.
You're never too old to play with Legos.
What parent says, “you know a great kid friendly weekend activity? A parade of fetish sex-obsessed adults engaging their fetishes in public!”
I can’t fathom taking my ELEMENTARY age kids or grandkids to such an event.
I made the mistake of getting lost in SF in the mid 80s as a stranger to the place and ended up seeing part of the “gay pride” exhibition. The whole thing was horrifying, which is saying something coming from a teenage street kid.
I had the same experience when I was growing up in San Francisco. I have a super vivid memory of walking to a printers shop to pick up some stuff for my mom when I was 14 years old in 1982. The errand required me to go past the borders of my own neighborhood into the Castro district. My family was oblivious to the fact that a gay pride parade was even happening that day. I remember walking down the street and viewing all of this bizarre perverted behavior that I really still don’t even know how to describe or process. It was a profoundly disturbing and, frankly, terrifying experience after which I was never the same. I remember being frozen in shock at what I was seeing and just wanting to get away and wipe those images from my mind. I knew I had seen something that no child should see. I never made it to the print shop and ran all the way home. I did not even know the words to use to tell my mom what I had witnessed. And now parents take their children to see this stuff like it’s some kind of family friendly activity? It’s just so wrong.
I’d been hitchhiking cross country for a couple of years by that time and thought I’d seen it all.
Not by a long shot.
Those images will forever pop up whenever I hear the word “gay.”
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Oh my gosh, you and me both! After all these years I still feel kind of ill when I think about what I saw that day.
You’re not alone in that.
Oh and I got out of SF as fast as I could.
Look up Norm MacDonald’s hilarious bit about parents in those parades with “I’m proud of my gay child” - way over the top, as he was, but funny. As with all good humor, it has truth in it, I’m sure
This is exactly the behavior DeSantis is trying to stop. No sex for tots ! If u read his bill it has nothing to do w gay . It’s about parental rights. In a perfect world this law would be unnecessary . This story makes me like DeSantis
No surprise that we are sexualizing children ever earlier.
The rush to define pedophiles as "minor attracted people."
This is all intentional.
And pure evil.
What would you do if your child were sexually assaulted? And the government protected the perp?
Trade my white coat for an orange jumpsuit.
Nope, for an AR-15. You might trade THAT for an orange jumpsuit. But that might be unlikely - "Americans might try everything else first; but eventually they do the right thing"
I have a few solutions for that problem. All involve projectiles.
Oh Marie! You made me laugh. Am I evil?
Nah. Just sane.
Thank you Marie. That makes me feel better.
Happy to be of service. 😊
We wouldn’t have you any other way, LonesomePolecat!
Thanks, Doc.
“Pick-up ball games…riding bicycles…playing tag…swimming…”
These ARE relics of the past, and that’s where we went wrong. Not too long ago kids didn’t have time to selfishly obsess about “gender identity,” a phrase relatively new to the lexicon. Alas, these activities were deemed unsafe. A kid could get kidnapped. He/she could get a concussion from a bop on the head. A wipe out could leave a child mangled and bloodied. Someone could drown or be paralyzed from diving in the shallow end. Could. Could. Could. Could. Always a risk, but rarely a reality. Nevertheless, to eliminate the threats, parents, schools, the government and medical community have made the world so safe for kids, they’re now subjected the a vile movement that seeks to destroy them all in the name of affirmation of some perverted fantasy. How sad.
Exactly! When I was a kid, in the dark ages, every free moment I was outside playing with my friends, climbing tree, playing baseball with a tennis ball and a broom stick for a bat.
Rather like those who don't believe in God WILL believe in Something Else, kids who can't do that which comes naturally (aka "play") WILL do Something Else -- particularly when encouraged to do so.
Because God got you 9/11. The US exists largely because of Christer zealots who wanted the freedom to oppress others. From the moment religious cultists sieze or are given the reigns of power; the killing begins. Whether it is for Quetacoatl or Christ. We need better solutions; not repetition of earlier just as grotesque failings as the ones we wish to escape.
Christianity, like all religions, was a very unifying experience in what would become modern Europe and to a lesser extent the Middle East. Much of what we recognize as western civilization is directly attributable to Christianity and Jadaism. And while there are undeniably examples of poor behavior associated therewith the Enlightenment is aptly named. The US would not exist without spiritual belief. As for Christian zealots who wanted to be free to oppress others. BS. They just kicked others the way the bloody Brits, Anglicans, kicked them. Not commendable but imminently understandable.
The irony is that crime in reality is lower than ever and the odds of a child being kidnapped by a stranger are absurdly low (not that it isn't tragic when it happens). In some places, people even REPORT the parents of unattended children for the "crime" of <gasp> letting their kids go to the park alone.
I’m 34 and still I’ve no idea what the h non-binary and pansexual even mean.
They mean nothing.
A black hole of nothingness that is swallowing the young.
They mean “Look at me! Look at me!”
As best I can tell, it means that "I want to be accepted into the group but I'm not gay or trans, so I have to pick something." When authority figures applaud people for being LGBTQ etc, you will get more of it. Pretty basic.
The unfortunate part is that it is undermining the people that are truly struggling to figure themselves out as this article points out. I have much sympathy for the truly confused, but the social contagion aspect of this movement makes me queasy.
Definitely a social contagion. I told my daughter a few years years ago when most of her friend group came out as “bi” that there was nothing less cool than a straight white female unless it was a straight white male. That definitely drives a lot of this stuff for pre-teens and teens
I'm a millenial transsexual and don't know what they mean.
I think they mean "I don't know what I am."
Which, if you think about it makes sense. Up until recently, most people didn't worry about those kinds of labels at all.
And I thought the point of all this equality was to get rid of the labels anyway. Let people just be individuals.
Sounds like these events are the replacement for “old” clubs like Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, after school clubs, church and so on for these particular young children.
So, they might be the next altar boys, just worshiping a different God with new priests to help them out.
"New priests to help them out." Seems so accurate but truly turns my stomach.
We all know the massive harm a few priests did to an unsuspecting public. The main difference with these new priests is that they feel their attraction to little boys and girls is actually ok. How much harm will they do before they are stopped?
Probably
As my late mother used to say, "watch out for those choirmasters."
Im a mom of 3 and my kids are outside all day playing in the playground, tag, ball, swimming etc. No smartphones or social media allowed in my home.
https://www.waituntil8th.org
My 9 year old granddaughter is asking for a smartphone. Daughter told her what I told daughter back when. Blackberries were The Thing:
“When you can sign the contract yourself you can get one.”
At that tender age, I surely had crushes on girls, and Olivia Newton-John and Princess Leia caused stirrings within prepubescent me, but it wasn’t something on which I dwelled. As you note, there was important kid stuff to do!
The topic of sex would have been, at the very least, inappropriate and uncomfortable, or worse, suspect: Why do you know about these things? Did someone do something to you?
I’m mournful for the deliberate loss of innocence that many children now — although not as many as we’re often led to believe — will suffer, which they can never get back, and the sacrifice of the exciting, sometimes awkward but ultimately rewarding self-discovery that comes with growing up.
It is by design. The elites love to have sex with kids-all young, supple, and fresh. Plus the younger the kid is, the more afraid they become, thus getting all that good adrenochrome rolling.
2019 me would have said this was batshit crazy but I believe the elites rape children and do the other weird stuff they do out of bizarro ubermenschen fantasy. Rules and taboos are for little people! Look how powerful and untouchable we are!
To be fair, most kids that age aren’t. This is specifically at a Pride parade where people who are thinking about that stuff will be there. So you will get a much higher percentage than average who are thinking about this, even kids.
>>I cannot comprehend kids, at such a young age, being obsessed with their sexuality<<
SERIOUS question here, I'm not trying to be snarky: How are gay, nonbinary, or pansexual 10- and 11-year-olds any different from 10- and 11-year-girls plastering on eye makeup, mascara, and lipstick—which is a fairly frequent sight in classrooms throughout the conservative, Trump-voting little burg I live in?
You answered your own question. The first group is children brainwashed into revolving around their genitals (or removing their genitals) and jumpstarting their sexuality. The second group is playing dress-up.
Kids play at grown up things. Generally we draw the line at being alcoholics, drug addicts, wife beaters and other depravities.
The Problem: There aren't any more Grownup Things.
Agree. They’re being influenced by the adults around them.
10 and 11 year olds vote Trump in your town? That seems unusual.
We have to steal votes somehow to keep up with the Democrats🤣
Whatever works!
Exactly I wondered what a Trump burg looked like. I’d imagine we all living in the same burg, in fact if this human is living in a Trump burg I would think they lucky. Imagine living in a Pelosi burg, SF don’t look to pretty at this stage.
“My burg is a tremendous burg. Tremendous. A lot of people say it’s the best burg they’ve seen.”
Where is your burg?
That was my Trump impression.
😃
The makeup, hair bow, and soccer shirt girls. Always saw it as a way of expressing themselves and discovering their passions and expressing them. The passion for sports and love of being on a team along with duplicating their mother's look and forming it to be theirs. (girls with makeup have mothers with the full makeup face in the school's car pool lane)
Wondering why a parent would allow a child to channel so much of their interest and energy into just sexuality. What happened to a life where a child is encouraged to be passionate about singing, biking, to be great at math, and experience their many interests? There has got to be more to a person than their sexual identity and a parents' job is to insure that a child's world is open to developing into a total human being.
To misquote Emily Dickinson...to croak your sexuality how boring like a frog.
When I was a kid, girls didn't start wearing makeup until Jr High.
Same.
Makeup on 10-year-old girls still strikes me as creepy & repellant.
I have to keep reminding myself, "That's 'cause you're _old_." 😀
I always thought it was weird when mothers take their 5 year olds to get their nails done. Is that because they are so selfish they can't forego their own nails to take their kids to a park and play? Didn't the mother then think this would be a lifelong obsession with how you look, how feminine you are etc? It starts somewhere.
That drives me bat shit crazy! It’s a bizarre to watch.
Most modern culture is stupid and sick, Patrizia
One of them sees sex acts in public. The other does not. That’s the elephant in the room for n the videos I’ve seen. Wasn’t so long ago that locals, parents and police would’ve stopped that instantaneously. Now? Heck they pulled that in front of the WH with their flag hung high on the building.
If you’d popped out of a time capsule from 2000 you’d ask if the country had fallen in a civil war.
With respect, I don’t think little girls trying on makeup is unique to “conservative, Trump-voting” burgs, although you’re probably less likely to see little boys doing so.
I’d also argue that conservatives aren’t necessarily Trump voters, but that’s a whole other topic.
That is the problem. If you are to win you have to vote en bloc for the candidate with the most support. If that is Trump; tough. You'll take one for the team or EVERYBODY DIES.
And that attitude is why both side keep voting for crappy candidates. No one is allowed to vote their conscience. Vote for the lesser of evils or else.
And man has the been working out so well so far.
Or teenage girls getting breast implants as birthday presents from their parents!
Or the sexily dressed up pagent toddlers and little girls who are strutting and dancing. That tends to be something done more in the south.
Yes, child pageant culture is gross. Is it still thriving, though? When it comes up, I always think of JonBenét Ramsey. I imagine more than a few people make that association.
I think the movie "Little Miss Sunshine" has made child beauty pageants a lot less popular. If you haven't seen it, it's great.
Look for drag kids pageants to become a thing.
Yes JonBonét. I know it isn’t as prevalent on TV anymore but I have friends who live in the south and yes, it is still big.
Lived in the south for 40+ years. Only heard of them on the national news. Never met a person who went or had kids in them
The Democratic South that would have been back in the day. Not a coincidence, I'd say.
Yeah - I don’t think Honey Boo Boo was happening back in the days of the democratic south 🤣🤣
Hang on to your memories, Scot. They may be all we have left. A Brave New World is upon us. Now I just have to find a place to hide..
Sometimes it’s due to external brainwashing. However, often it’s their own parents. To leftists, having “queer” or “trans” kids gives great status in their cult religion.
I thought about sex a lot at the ages of ten and eleven, but those thoughts seemed inherently private to me. Kids at those ages are too young to date and have no reason to be declaring sexual orientations to all and sundry.
Acceptance is dropping because it just kept going. Pride week became pride month. Corporations slapped rainbow flags on everything. People who weren't demonstrative flag wavers got canceled. It's become a religious movement with ideological capture happening across the Western world. Of course there's a backlash. I don't give a shit who people sleep with and I don't need sexual identity shoved in my face. I don't want to hear about it from straight people either.
Right? Why is this "movement" all about sex? Can you imagine a bunch of hetero people dancing in our normal clothes on top of a bus, expecting other citizens to "worship our unique selves"?
Nancy that is a GREAT idea. Who’s in?
Nancy, heterosexual people have no “safe place” because, as the so-called “majority” they are the privileged, or religious, or Right Wingers, or just fill in the blank with a derogatory identifier!
If you don’t kowtow to the WOKE ideology/agenda, then just “SHUT the Fu*k up”
I've posted this before, and borrow part from James Dobson. First we were expected to be tolerant than we had to be accepting, it moved to a requirement to be approving, next we were forced to be celebrating, now if not declaring membership in some made-up marginalized group we are expected to sit down and shut the f**k up. :(
Sit down and shut the f**k up but silence is violence.
Up is down, black is white, bad is good.
If you tried to have hetero story hour they probably would ban you at the library and say you were excluding the LGBTQ groups.
or just think I was an idiot. Who would have thought libraries were so performative? Back in the day, you were told to "hush" in a library, not hoot and clap.
Ha ha ha...good point! But seriously...if we went and asked for hetero-married-god loving-flag waving-USA first hour, I bet $100 they wouldn't allow it. I am surprised more people aren't doing this to highlight the absurdity of drag queen story hour.
maybe we should?
I have been tempted to ask my local library. I live in a smallish town...one of the library staff... transgender...went to Barnes and Noble... transgender staff person, another staff person seemed on the LGBTQ spectrum...it's like I am the minority of straight female persons....I don't get out much (by choice!) And it's like society changed overnight.
Back in the day, kids learned to read.
No sane person, straight or gay, wants to be around other people’s children, or wants them allowed entry into bars or nightclubs. People need breaks from their own children!
Then just hire a babysitter...that used to be acceptable...now you have to take your kids to "me-time" activities...like drag queen story hour, the nail salon?
This day will come, I believe. But right now very, very, very few books for children show humans or humans in a relationship/family. The animal/fantasy characters are not in anything but the vaguest, loosest relationships also. Children’s literature reflects our atomization and the transhuman culture.
Heterosexuals are the new fascists.
Bloomingdale’s in NYC has has the Pride colors up all freaking June. Before that it has been the Ukraine blue and yellow, the latest iteration of the Current Thing ™️. Yes it is NYC but it shows the hive mind of the corporate elite.
Odds that on July 1 the colors of the Eastern Europe corrupt cesspool will be back up, even on Fourth of July Weekend? TBD…
Corporations have to get that all important ESG rating up!
I got a good laugh out of Phillip Morris having a better “ESG rating” than Tesla.
#metoo!
🤣
Mike, the American Flag 🇺🇸 is a “trigger” and “offensive” so “if you MUST acknowledge July 4th, then do so quietly inside your home, or backyard”
In Canada, #PrideSeason is from June to September.
OMG. If it becomes #PrideSeason in the States, I'm going to cry. #Pride in 2023 has devolved into an orgy of hedonism and narcissism and capitalism, and I'm so f*cking done.
The blue and yellow of the Ukranian flag has been replaced with the "rainblow" flag. Maybe those Ukranian patriots could use some leather jockstraps and rubber phalluses to fend off the hetero Russkies instead of cruise missiles (come to think of it, a cruise missile might soon make an appearance in the NYC fellatio float parade).
Is Bloomingdale’s still around?
Agree this👆Mike!
I’m inclined to have the same sentiment. And then you see crazy shit like “trans” legislators trying to pass legislation that redefines pedophilia as simply another sexual orientation and makes minors consenting individuals. So, I’d be more specific and say I don’t care who ADULTS sleep with. But leave the kids alone.
It's not "trans" legislators. It's Democrats. And legislation you've described there is already being signed into law. CT's new HB 6638 for example, adds "age" as a non discriminatory protected class and replaces "sexual" orientation with "gender" orientation. Firmly embedding gender identity ideology and the notion that kids have the agency to consent to gender surgeries and/or sex with adults into state law. https://www.cga.ct.gov/2023/BA/PDF/2023HB-06638-R01-BA.PDF
There's a special level in hell being prepared for these people.
There's a special level of hell that is already manifest here and now on earth. It must be stopped before more lives are destroyed.
Read what you posted on the law. It specifically EXCLUDES sexual criminal behavior. So no "right" to have sex between children and adults. Assume the state has some version of the Romeo and Juliet laws which prescribed what is the minimum age of consent and how many years are allowed between parties for consent.
Granted, I should have slipped "eventually" in there, before the "sex with adults". But with the way things have been going, especially in these "progressive" states, do you really think that one single sentence in an otherwise bat shit crazy law is enough to keep that at bay? I sure don't. That newly minted "agency for consent" will inevitably be leveraged and tested in the courts. Bet on it. Get one kid on the stand to say "I consented to have sex with an adult. Don't discriminate against me. I have rights." and we're there. Lines drawn in sand wash away with the next wave. And as much as we'd like to think we won't go there- just look at where we are now.
You don't get it. It is ALL criminal behaviour and that bill is all crime; every word and every clause. The same line has been trotted from before I was born. This is different how exactly?
It’s enough now like you I am sick of all of them!
Imagine being introduced to someone and their first words were "I like cunnilingus" or "I favor feet?" Not only is this bizarre, it's boring beyond measure. As others have stated, "who cares, just don't impose your fetishes on me."
Maybe in the next gay pride parade they can have a float were LBGTQLMNOPs are having sex. Throw in a guy having sex with a goat.
You do know there is a movement to accept sex with animals? The next thing to happen you will be labeled a bigot if the sexiest think you do with your German Shepard is scratch him/her behind the ears.
Maybe we could have them sodomizing some kids...really wake people up. It could be a litmus test. See how many people want to put their kid on the float and have an adult transgender person raping their child... it's all good?! WTF have we come to? Will it take that to blow this up?
Alas I fear the answer to your question is yes, that’s what it will take.
We need Sheep Shaggers month!
You made me laugh but what you are suggesting might just happen and the Dems will declare it a national holiday.
In LA last week an SUV repeatedly rammed a police car. The officer fired on the assailant and eventually stopped the assault by striking them. My second thought centered around wondering when the driver of the SUV would be celebrated and the VP visited their hospital bedside. It would surprise no one at this point.
My Siberian is giving me the stink eye. 😂
OMG, you've done it again. i laughed out loud.
I’m on a roll today! 🎢
Obviously, people concerned with this descent into insanity care.
Btw, Terrence. Thanks for the Russia reference. We're here gossiping about fetishism while world shaking events are taking place in Russia......
I was laughing, Bruce. cuz I was about to think, huh.. I think it’s the first comment by Terrence I see that comes without referencing my hapless motherland. 🤭
Government and corporate coercion combined with schools very secretively teaching CRT plus pride flags replacing American flags finally got everyone’s attention.
The culture war is white hot now.
Let’s see what happens in 2024 -- one party decided to call the other the precise things they actually are -- will voters notice?
Probably.
Meanwhile the government itself contacts what can only be described as Soviet Struggle seasons -/
https://duckduckgo.com/?va=v&t=ha&q=fbi+polygraph+uncomcious+bias+training&ia=web
And try that same search on Google. You’ll get nothing.
But, Sam, we must remember Biden won with 81 million votes while sitting in his basement! “He’s the most popular President in the history of this Country”
AND he’s announced he’s going for his 2nd term in 2024 ... you can’t be serious thinking the Government & Corporations won’t win again?! You aren’t being serious, right??!!
I truly hate to say something out loud that will make me sound like a “conspiracy theorist” but I have doubts (fears) Centrists/Conservatives/anyone not WOKE Left will win another election. That Red Wave was a huge red flag.
I live in PA.
Let me tell you the story of 2020.
Big city you could walk to vote and you waited 15 min
Suburbs they “consolidated” polling places and everyone I know all over the state waited 1-4 hours. We were 3.5.
Mail in ballots allowed despite that being directly against the PA state constitution.
Then the mail in ballots were co-mingled with all other ballots. Can’t audit. NFW anyone “verified” many.
Blatantly f-u sandbagging and IMO obvious fraud-enabling.
So no, Biden didn’t win in PA but for that rigging.
Basically people who had jobs couldn’t wait 3 hours and anyone without a job voted.
/end rant
Yet another thing politicians *think* they got away with.
Probably? Your basis for such optimism is....? (Sorry, but it takes a LOT of voters to change anything.)
Because I’m old. I’ve seen voters “get” things and react strongly. Takes a few years but it does happen.
RFK Jr is doing well despite being completely obliterated by MSM and YouTube.
Just one example. Tulsi is another.
Then there’s the newly found guts to not patronize corporations who hold you in contempt.
Few realize Bed Bath and Beyond took their final nose dive when they banned a pillow, and Goya named AOC employee of the month.
Couple more for you.
Two decades of lobotomy ended badly.
Nearly two decades of taking autistic children away from “refrigerator mom” ended.
Both based upon complete and total lies.
Then nobody said afterwards that they supported that, even the perpetrators and former true believers.
Even Jim Cow law and the KKK went down the same exact way.
It will change.
Hang in there.
True but when does emptying the mental institutions end? Etc. Hear ya, but there's still this huge mass of stupids out there, many of whom are actually alive. Can we vote our way out? Hope so. Be well.
The fucking Beeb followed by The Grauniad were the first two hits I got. Whodda thunk?
I am twice as old as the author of this article, so remember when gays had to hide in the closet and yes PFLAG was pretty amazing . This group was formed by parents whose children were in the closet and they decided enoough. They soon found they had a lot of "friends" who were willing to march with them in the Pride parades.
Two of my dear friends who have been together for 40 years got married last month in the Az town where they have lived for 30 years. They are so beloved, that .the entire town turned out to celebrate . I can assure you that if anyone wants to send them back into the closet many of these folks will go into their OWN closets to retrieve the gun that is legal in this open carry state. Please don't take me literally. The newlyweds are actually anti=gun peaceniks since both are pretty dedicated Christians. . It is to say that whatever the figures indicating a decline in support of old boring gays, it wouldn't happen to them in that town.
There's no "safe space" for heterosexuality. And it's reaching the point where there's no safe space for the mainstream lesbian/gay community either.
We're forbidden to have a school assembly (that follows the school-sponsored drag queen show) to celebrate the heterosexual lifestyle or to discuss the demonstrated societal, educational, and economic benefits of the traditional two-parent family. To even suggest having such an event would result in shaming and accusations of aggression from the trans community.
But it's considered to be acceptable to spend our tax dollars to publicly endorse (and even encourage) the trans lifestyle. Crazy.
Agree this 👆Schu!
I actually think this is an important article here. To hear a voice from inside the alphabet soup telling us it doesn't really make sense to him either. That this movement isn't what it was. That the initial mission of equal rights has gone off the rails and entered Wonderland.
Even from the perspective of a gay man who's been marching in pride events for 25 years this all feels disconnected from reality. It used to be born this way. And now it's, what flavor of Skittles am I today?
It's refreshing to hear that someone living in that soup isn't buying this claptrap either.
I remember when gay people said- we just want to be left alone to live out our gay lifestyle without persecution. 20 years later - it’s YOU BETTER CELEBRATE MY NARCISSISTIC BEHAVIOR OR ELSE!
Oh, how I long for the olden days!
Gay people are not the problem here. We did exactly what we said we wanted to do. See my comment elsewhere. These people - the trans activists/ gender ideology people are not gay! They hitchhiked into our car and then stole the car, and are trashing us. (We were certainly wrong to pick them up. I deeply regret that.)
I think the only group here that can right the ship is the L’s and G’s. You guys ( gals) need to get your shit together before it all blows up around you.
I have no idea how except as Pee Wee Herman said: "Scream real loud". We have no power in those groups that were formerly for gay rights. Anyone who doesn't toe the trans line is kicked out. No, I think we (gay folks) and straight folks together have to quash it. And, feminists are working on it via lots of new organizations like WOLF, Independent Women's Network, the Lesbian Project, ICONS. I don't know if gay men are actively working on it, though.
Figures like Andrew Sullivan, Douglas Murray, Andrew Doyle, and Fred Sargeant, just off the top of my head, are very vocal about their opposition to the more extreme elements of the movement.
To your list, I’ll add Reduxx:
https://reduxx.info/about/
I hate to disagree because you sound so reasonable. But how about the gay people going after the cake maker? I respect people who keep there sexuality private. My sexuality does not define me.
As a gay man, I see the cake case in two different ways. If the bakery had refused to sell food to someone just because they're gay, that is wrong. This was beyond that--they were asking someone to make a cake with a specific message the person baking did not want to convey.
I'd view it the same way if I owned a bakery. If a full-on Trump supporter with a MAGA hat and Trump t-shirt came in and wanted to buy a dozen cupcakes then sure, I'd sell them the cupcakes. If they asked me to make a cake that says "Trump is the Second Coming of Jesus" I would refuse.
What does bother me, though, is that if a Christian came in and wanted a cake with a crucifix and "Jesus is Lord" on it, I would be forced to make it because Christians are a protected class.
Where it gets dicey is when it comes to things like medical care. If an E.R. doctor says "I refuse to treat a gay person who was beat up because of my religion" or a cop says "I refuse to take a crime report from a gay person."
Justice Ginsburg had said there are two issues in the law: where do you draw the line and who decides. In this case, A couple in their 30s got upset that the bakery wouldn't make the cake and complained to Civil Rights Commission in Colorado chose to sue to advocate that the line should be drawn that businesses shouldn't discriminate. It wasn't a gay organization that sued. The Commission felt that it was akin to saying "no blacks". I didn't agree and instead, believe that we need to balance the civil rights of gay people with the conscious and morality of religious folks. The bakery winning upset not one gay person I know. I'm glad they won. I am not sure why you are talking about keeping one's sexuality private. If two straight people are getting married and let me know, they aren't keeping their sexuality private!
I have to disagree- i think what we are seeing is the natural progression of “I just want my fair(equal) share mentality. The gay lobby is powerful, vocal and well funded and have created this mess
The "gay lobby" doesn't exist anymore - it has been overthrown by the queer lobby. The queer lobby is creating this mess. The etiology of the trans movement is very different from the gay movement and has completely different purposes. It is, in fact, anti-gay (in that they want to abolish sex as a category and replace it with gender) and anti-women. Did you read Andrew Sullivan's piece? I think he does a great job and showing the difference between the two.
Ah, m'lady, but Some of Us saw this coming -- and They went ahead anyway. You see, just as equal race rights morphed into Something Else. Once a profitable infrastructure is built for a Quest, it will not go away when the Quest succeeds. It's Econ 101 -- I sure wish that I knew the solution to that one, too.
As one Youtube commentor put it, at that point the movement must act to preserve itself even though its goals are complete, the kind of preservation instinct that even bacteria have. Hence second, third, fourth wave feminism -- there's no point at which "feminism" is full and complete, because it's now a spiritual lifeform fighting for its own survival and relevance.
Yes. But the profit aspect is the fuel on which it runs. Absent profit, it's of no more consequence than, eg, the flat earth society.
So what’s the solution? Roll back gay rights and equal rights?
Confusion. "Gay rights" I get; seems to me that, had Cooler Heads gotten with the idea that what adults do privately and mutually consensually is their business, perhaps the Profitable Infrastructure of Victimhood (see the post in which I explain that elsewhere if it's not obvious) might not have been irreversibly set in place. "Equal rights" throws me; context please?
They said they just wanted to be left alone; and first chance they got the floats rolled. Normalising paedophilia was in there from the gitgo too. This was forty years ago; not twenty. A lot of folk internalised bullshit along the way getting to your twenty years ago.
Yes, Nancy, totally agree with what you stated! Gone are the days of “live & let live”
Of course, there are still people on the Right who condemn the LGB community, which is their prerogative. But their views and, or personal beliefs should not be forced on those who have different beliefs.
I think (may be wrong) the majority of Americans just want the insanity to stop! If you want to be WOKE, okay, but don’t push it on those who don’t! Unfortunately, both sides “need” their beliefs to be accepted, or BY GOD ...
He is but one of many. Andrew Sullivan and Katie Herzog, just to name a couple notables, are on record lamenting how ridiculous and off track activists have become. There are significant disagreements within the letter group and some hesitancy to be lumped in with an ever increasing constituency. The lines are blurring even there.
Douglas Murray. Glen Greenwald. Bari Weiss. The list is long. For some reason, many of my favourite journalists and commentators are old-school gay.
Same.
That's one reason the LGB Alliance was formed (in the UK) by escapees from Stonewall, which, having won the battle for gay marriage and adoption, converted to gender ideology, thereby taking the sex out of homosexual.
David Rubin talks about a lot of this, too, from the same perspective of a gay man appalled at what’s happening.
"What flavor of Skittles" ... love that
OrionPeace, I have gay friends who say the LGB movement, they worked so tirelessly for, has been hijacked & taken over by the “T ... other alphabet letter people” and they are throughly disgusted with it.
Please see my comments elsewhere as a anti-trans activist/ gender ideology lesbian.
The author buries the lead - GLSEN. That's where it starts and why 10 year olds are focused on who they're "sexually attracted to" vs. playing with dolls or jumping dirt bikes or fishing for crawdads or any of the many other things ten year olds used to do before the woke infested the schools and parents let their kids sit on social media all day. There's a certain delicious irony that you couldn't talk about ivermectin on social media but "influencers" could school kids on hormones in a doom loop on SM.
Buried further in this piece is the "tribe" aspect. That's key. It IS a tribe and I've heard more than one of my gay friends describe the gay community that way over the decades. But now it's a tribe AND an identity AND a religion/sect/cult and that combo is potent. Some of that is innate but a large part of it is a choice. Further, for a certain subset of mother it's a new identity too - a Munchausen by proxy level community of trans that gives her attention and other (usually) women who create a potent and destructive feedback loop. Unfortunately, they're enabled by a "system" of doctors, psychologists, teachers, and officials who normally would check that level of destruction but not in this case. They're grifters and it's an industry and there's too much money to make.
The trans/queer/woke IS coming for the "Gs" and "Ls" (and "Ss"). Because it's a RELIGION. And we're witnessing a social phenomenon that's rare (thankfully) but typically destructive (unfortunately).
I was heartened to see the polling pullback on support for gay marriage not because I don't support gay marriage (I do) but because I think it might FINALLY act as a siren call to the "Gs" and the "Ls" and give them the kick in the pants they've clearly needed since at least 2020. They're in a unique position to shut the extremism at their fringe down or, at least, join the moms and the dads and the Christians and the Muslims in their "domestic terrorism" DOJ/SPLC-labeled corner to fight for some sanity.
The rub, of course, as with race, is that we'd gotten to a place where sexual preference and race just weren't "important" anymore to people. The "movements" had worked. MLKs dream was pretty much there. Ditto Milk and those who worked diligently for marriage for all. People were just people and we were generally just making it work. But, alas, the grifters have to grift. And in a country where people don't "like" religion, well, they need something to believe in and so, a new religion is born even though they don't like to call it that. Yet.
Many good points. In addition:
(1) Being straight and 'cis' is boring. Especially if you are a white male. An easy way to be more interesting is to claim an identity from the alphabet soup of LGBTQ etc.
(2) If you are, i.e. 'identify as' trans, you can claim to be a victim - a member of the 'most oppressed and marginalized' group in the world (I would argue that female judges in Afghanistan have it worse) - and thereby gain status in your peer group, since being a victim in our current culture is very cool. You also get a lot of attention and might upset your parents - even more cool!
(3) If you claim to be a great athlete or musician, you could be asked to prove it, which you can do if you have been training for many years. If you claim to be genderqueer, non-binary or whatever, you don't have to have accomplished anything at all. All you have to do is wave the rainbow flag and hold up a placard saying Trans Rights are Human Rights. Very very easy. A gift for those who are inclined to be self-righteous.
(4) They're already coming for the Ls and Gs, especially the Ls. And especially the Ls who are 'TERFS', who are getting cancelled and threatened and bashed, and their meeting places are being invaded by trans-identified males who claim to be lesbians. Recently at a demo in Glasgow a placard was seen that said Decapitate TERFS.
(5) There is a fight back - the LGB Alliance, Sex Matters, A Woman's Place (all UK) - but it's difficult when so many institutions (the NHS, the BBC, etc) have been captured by gender ideology.
How is it that the most oppressed and marginalized group in the world has all the power?
Say and do everything I want or it will be all your fault when I kill myself.
Does this sound like the plea of an oppressed person or the manipulation of an abusive person?
Excellent points as well.
Brilliant response 👆👆 This 100%. And grifter is the perfect description. Thank you!
Since you mention race, I often wonder how many children jump on this band wagon to get out of the oppressor class. Is the racial demographic in this “community” the same as in the general population? Anyone seen any data on this?
I've thought that for years. The kids are trying to find their 'safe place', and I can see why. And that's being taken advantage of.
You have it mostly right, but you are missing a key point I think. Traditionally, the so-called gay community, while a diverse motley crew with varied interests, was simply about survival, mutual empowerment, and a fight to just exist without having our heads bashed in for merely walking down the street. Inclusion in any "identity" was wholly voluntary with the only talk of "recruiting" coming the likes of a failed orange juice spokesperson.
Much of the agitation today is coming not from within but from without. The clinically insane Neo-Marxists have co-opted the gay rights movement the way the have with race and completely contorted and destroyed its true meaning. Their agenda is to weaken America by pitting us against each other and apparently to eliminate the very concept of gender.
It's unfortunate that so many of the young have been sucked into this hostile vortex and are being forced to question every aspect of themselves for fear of swift judgement and expulsion from the in-group.
For me, this is no longer my gay rights movement and I'm having nothing to do with it. Yet it saddens me to no end watching so much of the actual progress those of my generation fought for be systematically regressed.
Nailed it
Good comment.
GLSEN has found a warm, safe womb in our public middle schools where it’s hard to distinguish adults from the kids when it comes to maturity. At that stage in the lives of children when they need disciplined, self-confident, authoritative adults equipped to hew to the straight and narrow in a miasma of wonky hormones, districts staff middle schools with legions of Fred the Dancing Bears from Captain Kangaroo. The first MS principal that gives GLSEN the boot should win the Nobel.
Yes!
Yes yes yes yes yes
Well stated, Karla!
100%
Nailed it!!! Very well stated.
Surely one of the most frustrating aspects of the LQBITEDKJD3.14 movement is its insistence that your fluid gender and sexual attraction is THE MOST IMPORTANT THING EVER NOTHING ELSE MATTERS OMG!!!
I happen to be attracted to women. I've had friends who are gay, that's great. It's not really a big deal though.
What have you created, what do you like to do, what is your character like, are you fun to be around? That's the type of stuff that matters but the cultural tyrants would have us believe that nothing is more important than who you want to sleep with. Yawn, boring.
Ten and eleven year-olds think they know anything about sexuality? Theirs or anyone else's? Seriously?
The whole current gender idiocy is little more than attention seeking in an internet-driven youth culture in which nothing could be more cool. Severe gender dysphoria is, of course, entirely real, but until just a very few years ago was vanishingly rare and largely confined to adult men who had felt female since childhood. Today every other adolescent white girl claims to be trans. Not a boy, mind you, but trans, because that's what's cool; after all, who in their right mind would willingly identify as that most hated of all pond scum, a white male?
This would all just be another silly and passing teenage fad were it not for an army of shrieking activists, mostly men in dresses, which has bullied the medical profession into embracing it, while also making a tidy profit, thank you very much. And what greater badge of virtue could good progressive parents proudly wear than encouraging their confused children to mutilate themselves hormonally and surgically? The lobotomy bandwagon of the 1950's pales by comparison to the hundreds of thousands of young lives irreversibly damaged by this destructive craze.
Do these people realize they’re placing themselves firmly in the normies’ “people to avoid if at all possible” category?
Right there with drug addicts, alcoholics, unmedicated paranoid schizophrenics, etc.
At this point I literally turn my back on anyone giving off the “my sexual behavior is your business” vibe. Not at all willing to put up with it.
Don’t forget the virtue signaling parents who are also urging their children down the path thinking “I just want little Johnny to be happy.” All the while forgetting that children like to play pretend and use their imaginations and explore ideas that don’t and probably shouldn’t be materialized in the real world because well ... they’re children.
A few months ago some actress professed that 3 of her kids were some form of trans. That’s statistically impossible.
PSW, SHE needed them to be, so SHE could be part of the cult!
I have two daughters both claiming to be trans 🤦♀️
May God help you😔
Jason, I’m reminded of Bill Maher saying he wanted to be a pirate as a kid & when he grew up. He was thankful his parents (teachers/doctors/politicians) didn’t take him seriously, and have his eye cut out, so he could wear a patch, OR cut a leg off, so he could be peg legged.
I just want little Johnny to be happy while I spend 10 hours a day pandering for *likes* on social media.
Pre adolescents will confuse attraction with sexuality, well before the should with the onslaught by adults professing their beliefs.
Asking some one at that age, any age really, to define love.
Yes, it's all performance. It's the TikTokification of Pride.
Gay people did not want any of this. We want far away from the TQ's.
I forgive the kids who are creating these fake 'identities' because they're kids; they'll look back someday and cringe (hopefully). But the adults encouraging and participating in this are either idiots or monsters.
It will be worse than cringing when they realize that perhaps they wanted their boobies and babies after all.
I hope all they’ll have to face in the future is cringe. But a lot of these kids are being put on a medical conveyor belt of “gender-affirming care” that quickly walks them down a path of “treatment” that will facilitate irreversible physical changes (puberty blockers, etc). So, I fear the virtue signaling adults are allowing damage to be done that these kids will have to live with their entire lives.
The Gender Affirming Industrial Complex.
Yes, you’re so right. It’s very sad, and I’ve written about this in my own Substack.
Monsters
The drop in support has come because the alphabet movement has gone from simply wanting equal rights to the TQ+++ people who are not content with mere tolerance or acceptance, but who demand that we celebrate them and give them special privileges. They demand we change our language (cis, birthing person, chest-feeding, etc.) and share our preferred pronouns with everyone. Trans-women are stomping all over the rights and safety of actual women and want those women to apologize for feeling uncomfortable or angry. But, worst of all, they’ve come for our children, pushing for gender and sex education in elementary school and teaching kids to lie to their parents about their experimenting and confusion. In addition to encouraging ten-year-olds to declare themselves “non-binary” or trans, they’re pushing for irreversible and disastrous pharmacological and surgical interventions in these confused children.
So, as a long-time ally for gays and lesbians—I have beloved family members who are gay—I’m fed up with the trans-plus zealots. The decrease in general support is no surprise.
Every female I know will not respond pleasantly if ever called a “non-man” to her face.
I think that this essay, along with Andrew Sullivan’s recent articles regarding the fanaticism and medical malpractice of transgenderism, indicate a watershed moment in the gay movement, and that’s a good and healthy sign. The success of gay rights was not due to drag queens’ histrionics.
Rather, the common sense fairness of gay rights won over middle America because we, like Sen Rob Portman in Ohio, have sons, daughters, loved ones, and next door neighbors who were same-sex attracted and just wanted to live the normal, good, everyday life that heterosexuals took for granted.
Gender dysphoria has become the new cool kids competition, much like kids collecting Pokémon cards. It’s absolutely ludicrous, and must be treated as such. Thank you for this helpful essay.
Firmly convinced the “T” in the soup is determined to eliminate the “L” and “G”. Exactly what would have happened to this author if he were 15 today.
I actually was happy to see that this guy was just as confused as the rest of us. But he lost me with the “I still enjoy the womanly feeling I get when I put on a dress; I am as able as the next homo to tap into my femininity.”
This still irks me on so many levels. You can’t know what it it fella like to be a woman. You are not one. In a bajillion years I will never know what it feels like to be a man. I’m not one.
I’m with Remesh...there is something more sinister going on here and it’s the industrial complex/ big pharma who have now gotten our kids. It was a smart move on their part, but seriously it’s like a pack of dogs coming for our kids, who want to tear them apart. Who among us will stand up to save them? 🙋🏻♀️
I think you missed his point. He was differentiating expressing feminine energy as a gay man versus feeling like you ARE a woman.
I don't think this author is saying he is a woman at any point in time. That putting on a dress and channeling his inner woman is the same as saying I'm a woman today.
I think he experiences a similar experience to when I put on my Viking gear. I'm not Viking. But when I'm decked out there is a different mindset all the while knowing I'm not a Viking. And never will be.
At least, that's what I got out of it. His recognition that there is a difference between feeling a thing and believing you are the thing because you dressed up like one.
I see your point, and I may have taken that wrong. But at some point you could have been a Viking, but I could never be a dude.
Very true. Half my family tree is Scandinavian.
And I agree the notion that one's gender defines one's sex is ludicrous. Or that's it's mutable.
EXACTLY
I’m not trying to be uncharitable and I support the right of people to fool around privately however they find interesting, BUT: if he’d said “I put in extensions and do a Z-snap and enjoy the blackish feel I get” it would be understandable for a black person to respond DOOOOD COME ON NOT COOL. Maybe this is why people used to keep their weird fooling around private?
And what happens when wearing the dress and having that “womanly” feeling means I think I should be able to use the women’s bathroom and changing room ....
I was also taken aback by, "it’s a showstopper when I practice it." Who's show? What show? Stopped in what way? (Heads for the bleach eyewash...)
Pass it when you’re done!
Nobody will step up and save them. The women and the queers have succeeded in neutering real men. There are no heroes on the horizon this time
‘This still irks me on so many levels. You can’t know what it it fella like to be a woman. You are not one. In a bajillion years I will never know what it feels like to be a man. I’m not one. ‘
This 💯
As my close gay friend says, “I just want to be able to check married filing jointly on my tax return. The rest is BS.”
Great summary!
I think people have alphabetical sex fatigue and are developing an attitude of get out of my face and space with your poor is me, I am special crap. None of this is special and I really don’t care what your pronouns or sexual choices are. Do your life and don’t expect me to care or cheer you on.
We have gay friends but because they don’t push this and they talk and do normal things. Many are truly whatever but my guess is a large percentage has joined or jumped in because they have issues of mental illness and are desperate to belong to anything. That includes the desperate for attention parents who actively promote their whatever child at a young age. Just leave us alone and get a life and stop demanding everyone change just for you. Not going to happen sunshine.
I didn’t care until 1) they began using the law to draft me into their delusions and 2) they openly went after children.
Hard lines crossed = major negative reactions
I think you nailed it with “I’m special” I believe that’s where this concept hooks kids at a vulnerable, awkward time.
I am 77. When I was a little girl, I kept saying I wish I were a boy. The reason was that I wanted a paper route (remember those?) There was no way for a young girl to earn money. I shudder to think what might have happened to me today.
My mom is 83 and says the same: she played sports, babysat to get money for her bike, and is 100% sure she’s be at least labeled trans. She’s the coolest woman I know.
Historically powerful women are now being labeled as “Trans”. WTH?
This is so misogynistic I can’t even believe it. Numerous women who defied *gender stereotypes* and achieved great things not in spite of being of a woman but BECAUSE of being a woman are now trying to be retrospectively labeled trans. St. Joan of Arc wasn’t a woman seeking to be a man so she could lead, she was a WOMAN called to lead.
Equality for women is once again being undermined by men but we’re supposed to be ok with it because they’re men who say they’re women. The double think!
Misogyny is a real thing; thank you!!! The push to label historic females as trans is just a new way to minimize and diminish women who are really women. It's a form of scorn, denial and animosity directed at accomplished and exceptional women.
Agreed. My wife is a strong woman having survived a male dominated field for 30 years. That should not be diminished in any way.
Your wife and I have that in common! I appreciate your sentiment and I know your fortunate wife does as well. Take care.
My grandma, born in the 1910s, once told my mom that when she (grandma) was a kid, she’d pray every night that when she woke up in the morning, God would have turned her into a boy. She went on to marry my grandpa and have six kids.
Thinking she just realized that it was a man's world at that time. Women worked very hard to change that, and we deserve to be recognized for what we are....women.
This same grandma thought she was dying when she got her first period, because no one had explained menstruation to her. I don’t know if the “praying to be a boy” thing was before, after, or both.
She was very big on all of her kids pursuing higher education, including the girls. (Five kids went to college and one went to carpentry training.) She told my mom, “Even if you don’t want a career, you need to be able to have one if your husband dies and you have to support yourself and your children.” She was an elementary school teacher.
I think a lot of people, a lot of normal, mentally healthy, people find that a LOT of this is just performative, it is about attention seeking.
Attention seeking is a cry for help. Especially when it's being done by kids. It's no surprise that kids are losing their minds and acting out in disturbing numbers now. We've destroyed the family and have outsourced our kid's care to the Market or the State. Both of which have their own agendas.
It's crazy to me how the gay rights movement has allowed itself to be hijacked by the gender identity religion. Recognizing that gay people no more 'choose to be gay' than straight people choose to be straight, and thus were entitled to be treated equally, was an important thing to push for and an important milestone for our society.
Now we've got people pushing this weird Cartesian dualism in which my 'spirit' may be different from my biology. It's non-sensical. You're not a 'spirit' with a body. You don't 'have' a body. You 'are' a body. Your gay brothers and sisters didn't choose to be gay. They didn't wake up one day and say, "Body, I want you to be attracted to the same sex as me."
In the same way, you can't choose what sex your body is. You can cos-play all you want, but your body is what it is.
I don't think we let it be hijacked. They hijacked it after we retired because, hey, we won the rights we wanted. So they took over organizations that were developed for gay rights (like the Human Rights Campaign) and turned it into a queer thing. We can't get back those organizations - they no longer care about gays and lesbians. But, we can say - please help us to battle the trans movement/ gender ideology and realize we are with you, not them. (At least the older gay movement folks... the young are a whole different story.)
Thanks for adding the clarification. I'd never want to blame good people for what has become of these organizations. My frustration with this issue gets the best of me some times.
Also the ACLU and Planned Parenthood.
Also Stonewall.